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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "The bookies have Mayo as favourites..Alot of those players you named were nt really playing last year anyway Cillian a massive loss but sometimes the loss of a major player makes the team try harder. For me it's a 50 /50 game. Sometimes clashes like Galway/Mayo take on a life of their own. Hard one to call."
I don't agree with you there Mick. If they hadn't retired, both Barrett and Clarke would still be first choice players and Tom Parsons would probably be a bench option. Of the named injured players I think all of them would either be pushing to be starters or for a place on the bench and none would be left out of the match day panel unless other players were showing better form. Those absentees would form the bulk of a good team. I agree it's 50/50 in two weeks time and expect it to be tight.... it's rarely any different.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2451 - 12/07/2021 21:01:32    2359172

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Well if you look at the Galway and Mayo Teams
Compared to 3 or 4 yyrs ago
There both changed a lot
A lot of young players on Both Teams now
But the desire by both to win will be keen as ever

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1347 - 12/07/2021 21:18:53    2359177

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Have Mayo gained anything at all from the Sligo or Leitrim game? On the other hand Galway struggling to beat Roscommon for most of the game might stand to Galway. Mayo have a great record in Tuam but a bad one in Castlebar against Galway. If Gleeson makes any mistakes in front of Goal Mayo will punish him. I am confident Galway can do it. If Shane Walsh starts he will be the target of a lot of Mayo defenders which in turn will allow our other players do the damage. I can see AOS going 1:1 with Conroy?

ref (Galway) - Posts: 219 - 12/07/2021 21:40:07    2359184

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Galway have to be strong favourites for the final, playing Division 1 football makes a big difference, Mayo had no tough game since Dublin in Final last year . Mayo players looked good against both Sligo and Leitrim but both these teams in Division 4 and were very poor, so we don't know how Mayo new players fair in a tough game.

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 183 - 12/07/2021 21:43:27    2359185

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Very hard to know...Mayo v Galway games can go either way and the form of either team matters little as the games tend to take on a life of their own.

I think Mayo and Galway would both be happy with a Connacht title this year. A decent showing against Dublin would not be the worst way to bow out.

I agree Dublin won't be worrying about either team....then again Kerry won't be worrying about Donegal either I think ;)"
Donegal? I think the way things are going the only time the Dubs will see Donegal this year again will be if they come up here on their staycation, I think we are up against it next Sunday, if we play like we did against Derry then Tyrone will beat us.
Reality is I think this All Ireland is between Kerry and Dublin, the big 2.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1824 - 12/07/2021 21:48:47    2359188

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I'd be worried about the covid outbreak in the camp as much as anything. Even if these players are cleared to play in a Connacht final they won't be right. Isolating for 10-14 days and the released but your not fully recovered and still can be drained for a few weeks after.

We had a player on our team last year who couldn't train fully 3 weeks after isolation due tiredness and lack of energy.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10843 - 12/07/2021 22:05:37    2359199

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Replying To ref:  "Have Mayo gained anything at all from the Sligo or Leitrim game? On the other hand Galway struggling to beat Roscommon for most of the game might stand to Galway. Mayo have a great record in Tuam but a bad one in Castlebar against Galway. If Gleeson makes any mistakes in front of Goal Mayo will punish him. I am confident Galway can do it. If Shane Walsh starts he will be the target of a lot of Mayo defenders which in turn will allow our other players do the damage. I can see AOS going 1:1 with Conroy?"
I fancy Shane Walsh will spend a good chunk of the game running after Paddy Durcan or Eoin McLaughlin and if he doesn't Galway will be under a lot of pressure. As for Aidan, he'll do his normal thing and if Conroy wants to tag along he might find himself playing fullback, midfield and CHF. If I was a Galway supporter I'd be for leaving Conroy up and having him forget about doing a tour of McHale Park. Surely Mulkerrin is the best option Galway have for shadowing Aidan?

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2451 - 12/07/2021 22:20:50    2359206

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Pádraig Joyce under a bit of pressure but I want to talk about James Horan. I remember talking to an Kerry player that played v Mayo in 2011.He told me that anytime they ever played Mayo win or lose there was a softness in physicality. He said they were big and strong but no drive and did nt like the roughness. He said they were completely different under Horan he said. The player told me he was stiff and sore after the 12 semi due to the physicality of Mayo. He also said it was done hard but dair and he forecasted Mayo would be a top team for a long time. They might not have got to the Holy grail but they have been in the top few teams since and from 11 to today remain one of the toughest physical teams about."
Interesting post Mick.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2451 - 12/07/2021 22:49:04    2359212

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I'd be worried about the covid outbreak in the camp as much as anything. Even if these players are cleared to play in a Connacht final they won't be right. Isolating for 10-14 days and the released but your not fully recovered and still can be drained for a few weeks after.

We had a player on our team last year who couldn't train fully 3 weeks after isolation due tiredness and lack of energy."
Was thinking the same thing Yew and if the team was largely made up of the older dogs they'd probably be able to handle it better, show up and do the business. But it's a lot to ask of a panel of younger players to keep the focus and be right physically for a game against their main provincial rivals. Time will tell, but I agree, it might be a huge test of the panel's preparedness. That said it's challenges that grow players and teams.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2451 - 12/07/2021 23:17:27    2359222

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The biggest unknown in this contest will be Galway.
They haven't got a consistent style of play. No minimum standard of performance.
You know what your going to get from Mayo - irrespective of who is starting

Galway will have to play far above what they have shown all year to win

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 885 - 13/07/2021 02:29:35    2359237

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Replying To Pericles:  "I fancy Shane Walsh will spend a good chunk of the game running after Paddy Durcan or Eoin McLaughlin and if he doesn't Galway will be under a lot of pressure. As for Aidan, he'll do his normal thing and if Conroy wants to tag along he might find himself playing fullback, midfield and CHF. If I was a Galway supporter I'd be for leaving Conroy up and having him forget about doing a tour of McHale Park. Surely Mulkerrin is the best option Galway have for shadowing Aidan?"
I'd expect Sean Kelly, not Mulkerrin, to take O'Shea if he spends time inside. He did a great job on him last year and had him following him up the pitch as he broke from defence. O'Shea eventually moved out to midfield in the 2nd half and was fairly leggy after that.
With Walsh's hamstring, I'd hope they detail someone else to help with tracking back. In saying that, if he's in good nick, he can be very effective getting the ball from deep. Looking at last year's final, he dragged us back into the game with some great long runs and scores.
Match-ups are important, but when it comes down to it, we need a serious level of physicality and work-rate from everyone in order to be competitive. Any weak link will be exploited.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1241 - 13/07/2021 08:05:05    2359258

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Replying To Mfs:  "Galway seem to be favourites with all the pundits for this game. Galway playing in division 1 this year should be a help to them. Mayo lost David Clarke, Chris Barrett, Donal Vaughan, Tom Parsons, Seamus oShea and Keith Higgins to retirement in January. Injuries to important players like Jason Doherty, Brendan Harrison, Cillian Oconnor, Diarmuid Oconnor, lee Keegan and kevin mcLoughlin who all missed yesterday due to injury. However Mayos new players seem to be settling in very well. I think it's too close to call."
Galway played division 1 but Mayo bet them out the gate.

Mayo/kerry Final is on

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1110 - 13/07/2021 11:43:02    2359328

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Game now going to be played in Croke Park..

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 488 - 13/07/2021 19:55:05    2359521

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Replying To tommy132:  "Game now going to be played in Croke Park.."
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0713/1234930-connacht-sfc-final-to-be-held-in-croke-park/

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 13/07/2021 20:48:32    2359546

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Replying To BeJasus:  ":/

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0713/1234930-connacht-sfc-final-to-be-held-in-croke-park/"
james horan will be delighted with that he has team build around the big fast pitch of croke park

mayo_123 (Mayo) - Posts: 230 - 13/07/2021 21:25:49    2359562

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A big Mayo lobby to move it to Croke Park imo, where they're very familiar with and comfortable in the place, they knew Galway were relishing going to Castlebar. Tickets better be allocated equally.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 553 - 13/07/2021 21:31:00    2359565

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Replying To Pericles:  "I don't agree with you there Mick. If they hadn't retired, both Barrett and Clarke would still be first choice players and Tom Parsons would probably be a bench option. Of the named injured players I think all of them would either be pushing to be starters or for a place on the bench and none would be left out of the match day panel unless other players were showing better form. Those absentees would form the bulk of a good team. I agree it's 50/50 in two weeks time and expect it to be tight.... it's rarely any different."
yes Pericles they would probably be playing alright but Vaughan Seamie O shea and Higgins would nt I would think.Of course they are big losses even if the were on the bench but Mayo are after finding some good new talent too.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2795 - 13/07/2021 21:55:14    2359580

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It take a crowd of over 30,000 to make it financially viable to open Croke Park yet they are opening it up for 18,000, this is the GAA leprechaun economics at work, an absolute ludicrous decision is so many ways.

They couldn't run a chip shop.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 13/07/2021 21:56:34    2359581

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Replying To Pericles:  "Interesting post Mick."
Thanks Pericles.That conversation was end of 2011 or early 2012 but I never forgot it and Mayo are real physical team since,The player did stress to me they were nt dirty at all but hit fair but hard when they could.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2795 - 13/07/2021 22:00:02    2359583

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Replying To Pericles:  "I fancy Shane Walsh will spend a good chunk of the game running after Paddy Durcan or Eoin McLaughlin and if he doesn't Galway will be under a lot of pressure. As for Aidan, he'll do his normal thing and if Conroy wants to tag along he might find himself playing fullback, midfield and CHF. If I was a Galway supporter I'd be for leaving Conroy up and having him forget about doing a tour of McHale Park. Surely Mulkerrin is the best option Galway have for shadowing Aidan?"
No tours of McHale Park to be had this year.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1572 - 13/07/2021 22:08:05    2359588

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