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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Why should Casey get off? He head butted his opponent, blatant red card. Limerick officials guilty of total hypocrisy on this. Rules only apply to them when suits. Manliness the Limerick way"
No he didnt. He got a hurley in the nuts and the natural reaction is to pull back your lower body from the blow and that bends your upper body into a forward motion. Anybody who ever got a belt down there knows what the natural body reaction is.

Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 11/08/2021 15:19:17    2369880

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Replying To Clubgaa:  "No he didnt. He got a hurley in the nuts and the natural reaction is to pull back your lower body from the blow and that bends your upper body into a forward motion. Anybody who ever got a belt down there knows what the natural body reaction is."
Post of the month award goes to your good self

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 11/08/2021 15:33:41    2369885

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I have watched this incident on numerous occasions,have to admit it looks as if his head did go forward so I'll be surprised if an appeal works..I'll pass one comment,I've seen pc playing since feile years and never remember him being sent off or doing anything remotely close to a red card offense..can any poster answer if he ever received a red card before?im not a member of his club either..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2526 - 11/08/2021 15:45:53    2369891

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Some joke Limerick appealing Casey's suspension. Most blatant red card you'll see, any hurling fan with a scintilla of knowledge will realise that, amazed that the likes of Kiely, Kinnerk and Caroline Currid are allowing this circus to develop. Accept punishment, focus on his replacement and deal with Cork."
What's scintilla??

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 11/08/2021 15:57:36    2369897

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What relevance has his disciplinary record? None. Guilty of a cowardly act, guilty of crass stupidity too, ten points up with ten mins left. No excuse despite the nonsensical earlier post about head jerking forward.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2166 - 11/08/2021 16:26:33    2369903

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "What relevance has his disciplinary record? None. Guilty of a cowardly act, guilty of crass stupidity too, ten points up with ten mins left. No excuse despite the nonsensical earlier post about head jerking forward."
Sure they both had helmets on, mountain out of a molehill.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2349 - 11/08/2021 16:59:48    2369909

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "What relevance has his disciplinary record? None. Guilty of a cowardly act, guilty of crass stupidity too, ten points up with ten mins left. No excuse despite the nonsensical earlier post about head jerking forward."
You never played junior so !

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 11/08/2021 17:21:17    2369914

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "What relevance has his disciplinary record? None. Guilty of a cowardly act, guilty of crass stupidity too, ten points up with ten mins left. No excuse despite the nonsensical earlier post about head jerking forward."
Most counties appeal in this situation. Waterford (2017), Kilkenny (2013) although they were already knocked out, Cork (2013) Tipperary, (2001) and Limerick and Galway (1981) all come to mind. However, unlike your county in 1998, we will accept the decision of the Appeals Body with dignity and move, without throwing our toys out of the cot.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4496 - 12/08/2021 10:27:31    2370039

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Dignity, appealing a headbutt. Laughable.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2166 - 12/08/2021 11:04:12    2370059

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "I have watched this incident on numerous occasions,have to admit it looks as if his head did go forward so I'll be surprised if an appeal works..I'll pass one comment,I've seen pc playing since feile years and never remember him being sent off or doing anything remotely close to a red card offense..can any poster answer if he ever received a red card before?im not a member of his club either.."
No, I don't think he's ever got a red card - not at county level anyway. He got a black card against Cork in the Munster championship this year which was a bit of a joke. Nicky Quaid saved the penalty and Limerick outplayed Cork even with 14 men, so there was very little comment on what was a terrible decision.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 605 - 12/08/2021 11:07:50    2370063

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Dignity, appealing a headbutt. Laughable."
Conor Gleeson struck casey with the hurley in an area that any sport finds reprehensible. There is nothing in the video evidence to show anything other than an involuntary reaction to being struck in that area. This is the basis for limericks appeal I'd imagine and they are 100% correct in appealing it under the circumstances. Kiely is not the type to appeal anything other than an obvious injustice.

I won't comment further other than to say that of the two individuals involved one instigated the engagement and the other has an impeccable disciplinary record since underage.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 12/08/2021 11:36:36    2370077

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Replying To Shocs07:  "What's scintilla??"
A minute amount; an iota or trace.
A spark; a flash.
A spark; a glimmer; hence, the least particle; a trace; a tittle.

Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1066 - 12/08/2021 11:37:28    2370078

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Replying To daveboy:  "Conor Gleeson struck casey with the hurley in an area that any sport finds reprehensible. There is nothing in the video evidence to show anything other than an involuntary reaction to being struck in that area. This is the basis for limericks appeal I'd imagine and they are 100% correct in appealing it under the circumstances. Kiely is not the type to appeal anything other than an obvious injustice.

I won't comment further other than to say that of the two individuals involved one instigated the engagement and the other has an impeccable disciplinary record since underage."
Peter Casey didn't react the way he did for no reason either, same as Flanagan in the league game, and who's the common denominator in these incidents...

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2349 - 12/08/2021 11:54:45    2370087

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Replying To daveboy:  "Conor Gleeson struck casey with the hurley in an area that any sport finds reprehensible. There is nothing in the video evidence to show anything other than an involuntary reaction to being struck in that area. This is the basis for limericks appeal I'd imagine and they are 100% correct in appealing it under the circumstances. Kiely is not the type to appeal anything other than an obvious injustice.

I won't comment further other than to say that of the two individuals involved one instigated the engagement and the other has an impeccable disciplinary record since underage."
Gleeson might be described as having a bit of form.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2430 - 12/08/2021 11:54:49    2370088

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Replying To Bon:  "Peter Casey didn't react the way he did for no reason either, same as Flanagan in the league game, and who's the common denominator in these incidents..."
I actually have no problem with Flanagans red card. It was a red. In caseys case if there is further evidence to show the area of contact by glesson then there is grounds for appeal.

But you are correct. There is a common theme emerging over a few years now on the type of individual involved here.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 12/08/2021 12:13:24    2370098

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Did Gleeson warrant a red card? Doubtful, not relevant anyway, players provoked regularly, head butting opponent after provocation hardly justified? Maybe it is!!!!!! Strange tactic

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2166 - 12/08/2021 12:16:21    2370101

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Replying To daveboy:  "Conor Gleeson struck casey with the hurley in an area that any sport finds reprehensible. There is nothing in the video evidence to show anything other than an involuntary reaction to being struck in that area. This is the basis for limericks appeal I'd imagine and they are 100% correct in appealing it under the circumstances. Kiely is not the type to appeal anything other than an obvious injustice.

I won't comment further other than to say that of the two individuals involved one instigated the engagement and the other has an impeccable disciplinary record since underage."
Very well articulated. Makes a great case.

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 12/08/2021 12:18:59    2370104

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Most counties appeal in this situation. Waterford (2017), Kilkenny (2013) although they were already knocked out, Cork (2013) Tipperary, (2001) and Limerick and Galway (1981) all come to mind. However, unlike your county in 1998, we will accept the decision of the Appeals Body with dignity and move, without throwing our toys out of the cot."
Clare were screwed in 98. They were singled out after the Munster final. Colin Lynch got thrown under the bus and then the semi final timing debacle. Clare have been on the receiving end of some shocking decisions including this year.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 12/08/2021 12:20:26    2370106

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Replying To Clubgaa:  "No he didnt. He got a hurley in the nuts and the natural reaction is to pull back your lower body from the blow and that bends your upper body into a forward motion. Anybody who ever got a belt down there knows what the natural body reaction is."
Nuts! Sounds like it!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 12/08/2021 12:30:34    2370110

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Did Gleeson warrant a red card? Doubtful, not relevant anyway, players provoked regularly, head butting opponent after provocation hardly justified? Maybe it is!!!!!! Strange tactic"
This is why we have an appeals process and Limerick are entitled to go through it. If there is further evidence that gleeson has to answer questions then that's what retrospective action is all about.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 12/08/2021 12:57:44    2370118

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