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Replying To AfricanGael:  "Assuming Donegal beat Down, there could be an ambush on the cards on the 11th of July when Derry meet Donegal in the quarter final.

If Clifford is the best player in the country then Shane McGuigan is surely a close second in my opinion.

He would get into any team in the country."
I haven't seen him play but I've heard he's outrageous. I suppose we will see on July 11. I think if it's Donegal on July 11, I think they'll have him well marshalled... I hope so anyway. Stephen McMenamin will be given the task to keep him quiet with a sweeper covering. The unknown of Derry is scary.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 109 - 24/06/2021 13:52:51    2353076

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "I haven't seen him play but I've heard he's outrageous. I suppose we will see on July 11. I think if it's Donegal on July 11, I think they'll have him well marshalled... I hope so anyway. Stephen McMenamin will be given the task to keep him quiet with a sweeper covering. The unknown of Derry is scary."
He's a class act, I don't think he gets the recognition nationally that he deserves, whoever will be on him whether it's Neil McGee or Stephen McMenamin they'll need to put in a big shift.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 24/06/2021 16:01:29    2353110

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "Assuming Donegal beat Down, there could be an ambush on the cards on the 11th of July when Derry meet Donegal in the quarter final.

If Clifford is the best player in the country then Shane McGuigan is surely a close second in my opinion.

He would get into any team in the country."
I hope this is some sort of joke, held scoreless from play against Armagh last year in the Ulster Championship and only 0-1 from play against Offaly and Limerick. Could name atleast ten better forwards in Ulster never mind Ireland

bobo91 (Monaghan) - Posts: 16 - 25/06/2021 08:50:26    2353200

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Replying To bobo91:  "I hope this is some sort of joke, held scoreless from play against Armagh last year in the Ulster Championship and only 0-1 from play against Offaly and Limerick. Could name atleast ten better forwards in Ulster never mind Ireland"
I'll tell you this here and now, there is no better forward in Ulster than Shane McGuigan and believe me I know them all.

He scored 7 points against Armagh by the way, as far as I know a point from a free is still worth the same as as point from play.

No word from you about the 1-05, 1-04 etc from play at all lol.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 25/06/2021 10:30:32    2353224

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "I'll tell you this here and now, there is no better forward in Ulster than Shane McGuigan and believe me I know them all.

He scored 7 points against Armagh by the way, as far as I know a point from a free is still worth the same as as point from play.

No word from you about the 1-05, 1-04 etc from play at all lol.
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Lol you clearly don't watch too much ball then, you ever heard of michael murphy, mc brearty, mc shane, mc curry, two oneill brothers, conor mc manus? Another delusional derry fan then you wonder why yous have won no ulster since 98. Maybe you meant he was the best player in two tier comp yous were meant to be in last year. Stick to the div 3 ball

bobo91 (Monaghan) - Posts: 16 - 25/06/2021 11:29:52    2353240

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Replying To bobo91:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "I'll tell you this here and now, there is no better forward in Ulster than Shane McGuigan and believe me I know them all.

He scored 7 points against Armagh by the way, as far as I know a point from a free is still worth the same as as point from play.

No word from you about the 1-05, 1-04 etc from play at all lol.
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Lol you clearly don't watch too much ball then, you ever heard of michael murphy, mc brearty, mc shane, mc curry, two oneill brothers, conor mc manus? Another delusional derry fan then you wonder why yous have won no ulster since 98. Maybe you meant he was the best player in two tier comp yous were meant to be in last year. Stick to the div 3 ball"
When you have a few more than 4 posts you'll realise I'm not from Derry but I know every player in the Ulster.

Give me your 10 to 15 from Ulster , let me see do you know much about football.

Have a go.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 25/06/2021 12:35:42    2353258

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To bobo91:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "I'll tell you this here and now, there is no better forward in Ulster than Shane McGuigan and believe me I know them all.

He scored 7 points against Armagh by the way, as far as I know a point from a free is still worth the same as as point from play.

No word from you about the 1-05, 1-04 etc from play at all lol.
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Lol you clearly don't watch too much ball then, you ever heard of michael murphy, mc brearty, mc shane, mc curry, two oneill brothers, conor mc manus? Another delusional derry fan then you wonder why yous have won no ulster since 98. Maybe you meant he was the best player in two tier comp yous were meant to be in last year. Stick to the div 3 ball"
When you have a few more than 4 posts you'll realise I'm not from Derry but I know every player in the Ulster.

Give me your 10 to 15 from Ulster , let me see do you know much about football.

Have a go."]McManus, Mc carthy, murphy, mc brearty, langan, mc kenna, mc shane, mc curry, rian o neill, oisin o neill, grugan, campbell, mc kiernan. There is 13 for you off the top of my head now add in cillian o connor, con o callaghan o shea etc. McGuigan second best forward in the country laughable claim

bobo91 (Monaghan) - Posts: 16 - 25/06/2021 12:48:11    2353261

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Replying To bobo91:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "I'll tell you this here and now, there is no better forward in Ulster than Shane McGuigan and believe me I know them all.

He scored 7 points against Armagh by the way, as far as I know a point from a free is still worth the same as as point from play.

No word from you about the 1-05, 1-04 etc from play at all lol.
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Lol you clearly don't watch too much ball then, you ever heard of michael murphy, mc brearty, mc shane, mc curry, two oneill brothers, conor mc manus? Another delusional derry fan then you wonder why yous have won no ulster since 98. Maybe you meant he was the best player in two tier comp yous were meant to be in last year. Stick to the div 3 ball"
Be careful when you slate teams in any division , Cavan are now a division 4 team but it's not long since they sent your mob packing out of Ulster .

First round wasn't it ?

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 25/06/2021 12:51:38    2353262

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To bobo91:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "I'll tell you this here and now, there is no better forward in Ulster than Shane McGuigan and believe me I know them all.

He scored 7 points against Armagh by the way, as far as I know a point from a free is still worth the same as as point from play.

No word from you about the 1-05, 1-04 etc from play at all lol.
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Lol you clearly don't watch too much ball then, you ever heard of michael murphy, mc brearty, mc shane, mc curry, two oneill brothers, conor mc manus? Another delusional derry fan then you wonder why yous have won no ulster since 98. Maybe you meant he was the best player in two tier comp yous were meant to be in last year. Stick to the div 3 ball"
Be careful when you slate teams in any division , Cavan are now a division 4 team but it's not long since they sent your mob packing out of Ulster .

First round wasn't it ?"]Preliminary round.

We sent them packing in the first round the previous year ;)

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4552 - 25/06/2021 13:49:39    2353277

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Sunday 27th June 1pm, Páirc Esler, Newry

Down vs Derry

Ulster championship kicks off on Sunday. Best day of the year, better than Christmas.
Bookies have this one at 6-7 points, which could be a little short given for hot weather so might be higher scoring as a result. MacNiallais out injured which was always a possibility after coming back into the fold. Will be interesting to see how match fit McFadden Ferry is. I'm not sure who Down are missing apart from Johnny Flynn who would likely have done a man marking job.

The key to this game will be the Down kickout. Donegal will try to squeeze and if Down are to be competitive in this one they have to get this right. Last year Cavan had an outball in the long kickout to McKiernan, Smith and Galligan, which was vital to our win. If Down are going to be competitive they need to ask (a) how are we going to win our kickouts and (b) what happens when we lose our kickout. If they can find answers to both these questions and implement effectively, they can cause Donegal some bother

97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 195 - 25/06/2021 14:15:37    2353293

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Noone in Donegal is looking beyond Down that's for sure. But if we do win and end up facing Derry, we'll see how McGuigan gets on then. If Stephen McMenamin is fully fit and has good game against Down behind him, McGuigan will have a tough day at the office.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7441 - 25/06/2021 15:23:09    2353312

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Noone in Donegal is looking beyond Down that's for sure. But if we do win and end up facing Derry, we'll see how McGuigan gets on then. If Stephen McMenamin is fully fit and has good game against Down behind him, McGuigan will have a tough day at the office."
Well a potential banana skin but it would still be a shock if Donegal get caught two years in a row, so you'd have to fancy them to beat Derry, what McGuigan will do at one end McBrearty will do at the other and of course Michael Murphy will be back.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 25/06/2021 16:26:24    2353331

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Replying To bobo91:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=bobo91:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "I'll tell you this here and now, there is no better forward in Ulster than Shane McGuigan and believe me I know them all.

He scored 7 points against Armagh by the way, as far as I know a point from a free is still worth the same as as point from play.

No word from you about the 1-05, 1-04 etc from play at all lol.
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Lol you clearly don't watch too much ball then, you ever heard of michael murphy, mc brearty, mc shane, mc curry, two oneill brothers, conor mc manus? Another delusional derry fan then you wonder why yous have won no ulster since 98. Maybe you meant he was the best player in two tier comp yous were meant to be in last year. Stick to the div 3 ball"
When you have a few more than 4 posts you'll realise I'm not from Derry but I know every player in the Ulster.

Give me your 10 to 15 from Ulster , let me see do you know much about football.

Have a go."]McManus, Mc carthy, murphy, mc brearty, langan, mc kenna, mc shane, mc curry, rian o neill, oisin o neill, grugan, campbell, mc kiernan. There is 13 for you off the top of my head now add in cillian o connor, con o callaghan o shea etc. McGuigan second best forward in the country laughable claim"]McCarthy is not yet a top forward, the lad will improve a lot but he couldn't do it when it mattered most last October.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 25/06/2021 19:11:34    2353359

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To bobo91:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=bobo91:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "I'll tell you this here and now, there is no better forward in Ulster than Shane McGuigan and believe me I know them all.

He scored 7 points against Armagh by the way, as far as I know a point from a free is still worth the same as as point from play.

No word from you about the 1-05, 1-04 etc from play at all lol.
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Lol you clearly don't watch too much ball then, you ever heard of michael murphy, mc brearty, mc shane, mc curry, two oneill brothers, conor mc manus? Another delusional derry fan then you wonder why yous have won no ulster since 98. Maybe you meant he was the best player in two tier comp yous were meant to be in last year. Stick to the div 3 ball"
When you have a few more than 4 posts you'll realise I'm not from Derry but I know every player in the Ulster.

Give me your 10 to 15 from Ulster , let me see do you know much about football.

Have a go."]McManus, Mc carthy, murphy, mc brearty, langan, mc kenna, mc shane, mc curry, rian o neill, oisin o neill, grugan, campbell, mc kiernan. There is 13 for you off the top of my head now add in cillian o connor, con o callaghan o shea etc. McGuigan second best forward in the country laughable claim"]McCarthy is not yet a top forward, the lad will improve a lot but he couldn't do it when it mattered most last October.
"]And neither could mc guigan 'the second best forward in ireland'

bobo91 (Monaghan) - Posts: 16 - 25/06/2021 22:06:14    2353394

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Replying To bobo91:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=bobo91:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=bobo91:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "I'll tell you this here and now, there is no better forward in Ulster than Shane McGuigan and believe me I know them all.

He scored 7 points against Armagh by the way, as far as I know a point from a free is still worth the same as as point from play.

No word from you about the 1-05, 1-04 etc from play at all lol.
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Lol you clearly don't watch too much ball then, you ever heard of michael murphy, mc brearty, mc shane, mc curry, two oneill brothers, conor mc manus? Another delusional derry fan then you wonder why yous have won no ulster since 98. Maybe you meant he was the best player in two tier comp yous were meant to be in last year. Stick to the div 3 ball"
When you have a few more than 4 posts you'll realise I'm not from Derry but I know every player in the Ulster.

Give me your 10 to 15 from Ulster , let me see do you know much about football.

Have a go."]McManus, Mc carthy, murphy, mc brearty, langan, mc kenna, mc shane, mc curry, rian o neill, oisin o neill, grugan, campbell, mc kiernan. There is 13 for you off the top of my head now add in cillian o connor, con o callaghan o shea etc. McGuigan second best forward in the country laughable claim"]McCarthy is not yet a top forward, the lad will improve a lot but he couldn't do it when it mattered most last October.
"]And neither could mc guigan 'the second best forward in ireland'"]7 points in an Ulster QF isn't a bad return don't you think, nearly double what David Clifford scored in last years Championship, not bad at all.

Compare that to McCarthy's solitary point if you want and don't forget McCarthy had a second bite at the cherry and still couldn't do it in extra time.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 26/06/2021 09:05:23    2353426

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The lad got roasted by kennedy from armagh last year not even armaghs best defender. Mc carthy last i remember 3-1 vs donegal in a div 1 game whilst mc guigan is scoring 0-1 vs limerick and offaly lol. Hes a decent player dont get me wrong but hes not anywhere near second best forward in ireland.

bobo91 (Monaghan) - Posts: 16 - 26/06/2021 11:05:41    2353440

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Replying To bobo91:  "The lad got roasted by kennedy from armagh last year not even armaghs best defender. Mc carthy last i remember 3-1 vs donegal in a div 1 game whilst mc guigan is scoring 0-1 vs limerick and offaly lol. Hes a decent player dont get me wrong but hes not anywhere near second best forward in ireland."
Well, you just don't like Derry so if McGuigan was the best player the world had ever seen, it wouldn't matter to you.

A dog with a hammer in his hole knows McGuigan is miles ahead of McCarthy.

Now you are talking pure nonsense, McGuigan scored 13 points v Limerick and Offaly so at least have your facts right instead of making it up as you go along.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 26/06/2021 16:09:41    2353502

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Just saw the down team for tomorrow. A lot of changes to last year. What's the story with the Johnstone and Mooney etc?

thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 260 - 26/06/2021 23:24:48    2353623

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Can't see Down troubling Donegal tomorrow with that lineup although I wouldn't rate Donegal either. Very soft at the back and can't produce when the pressure is applied. Michael Murphy ,a great player mind you, won't be up to the pitch of the battle in a tight championship affair as last year's Ulster final illustrated when he was nullified by a hungrier Cavan outfit. A great panel they have, don't get me wrong but I'm sick to the two back teeth of this overhyping of them from the media that they could challenge the Dubs. It's commical at this stage. They're not great. No AI semi final since 2014 speaks volumes. Either are Tyrone for that matter. Extemmely dissappointing this year. A team in transition. They're like a sieve at the back. Completely clueless. Not sure Mc Shane can pull them out of the doldrums. I'd be expecting a Cavan win there and the final to be contested by Cavan v Monaghan/Armagh. Monaghan looking good this year. Some lovely young footballers coming through. If I was asked to pick a final pairing it would be Cavan v Monaghan. As much as it pains me to say it I'd give Monaghan the nod to get revenge for the last couple of years where Cavan have prevailed in those marvellous Drumlin Classicos.

thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 260 - 26/06/2021 23:41:00    2353629

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Replying To thegadfly:  "Just saw the down team for tomorrow. A lot of changes to last year. What's the story with the Johnstone and Mooney etc?"
The way Down capitulated to Cavan last year after leading by 10pts would suggest to me that Donegal won't be over stretched in this game… Their only worry would be complacency and Donegal have recent history in that regard…..!!!!!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 289 - 27/06/2021 09:28:49    2353654

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