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How many games will Kerry have to play in Munster before an AI semi final? 2? Against non Division One teams while we could have 4 games and 2 Division One teams to play all going well in Ulster.. definitely lop sided structure and worse than ever where it's a condensed championship with no back door.
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1317 - 04/06/2021 14:08:29 2348215 Link 0 |
Crucially for Kerry to win the Munster championship they won't have to play any Division 1 teams, this is standard fare. When was the last time Ulster didn't have the most teams in Division 1?
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 426 - 04/06/2021 14:18:05 2348216 Link 0 |
Murph yer getting a free shot at the dubs who will play the very same way that they'll play if ye meet them in an allireland final, I reckon Bonnar would be silly not to use this opertunity as a chance to try out a few things and to build a bit of confidence as ye'll need it if get to the allireland final. But that's just my view on it. As for ye having a hard time getting out of ulster, it'll be tough for sure but when we lost to ulster teams between 2002 and 2012 we were told that it was because of the tough games that ye had in yer provincial championship and thats why yer intensity was greater than ours. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 04/06/2021 14:35:55 2348218 Link 0 |
I'd say it was in 2019 when Connacht had Mayo Galway and Roscommon (3 teams in div 1) which would have been equal to ulster.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 04/06/2021 15:17:33 2348227 Link 0 |
Cavan were deserving Ulster champions last year, after reaching the final in 2019 also. Like Tipperary, they are 1 game away from playing Division 4 football next year.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 04/06/2021 15:36:38 2348232 Link 0 |
That would indicate that Ulster did have the most teams in Division 1 in 2019, alongside Connacht.
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 426 - 04/06/2021 15:58:00 2348236 Link 0 |
Yes that's why I said equal to ulster. You asked when was rhe last time that ulster didn't have the most amount of teams in div1 and that was 2019 as Connacht also had 3 teams. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 04/06/2021 16:34:11 2348242 Link 0 |
And that didn't even include Donegal who went onto win the Ulster Championship that year.
MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 04/06/2021 16:34:26 2348243 Link 0 |
Do you think that because two provinces had the most counties that means therefore no province had the most counties?
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 426 - 04/06/2021 18:27:26 2348257 Link 0 |
We can get a bit precious about ourselves in Ulster. Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 677 - 04/06/2021 19:09:32 2348266 Link 1 |
Well obviously both provinces were represented equally (3 counties each) and both had more counties in div1 than Munster and leinster. Ulster had more counties in div1 than Munster and leinster but they hadn't more counties than Connacht, they were equally represented. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 04/06/2021 20:25:58 2348275 Link 0 |
Awful pity we haven't these games on this weekend, we could have the league finals on then next weekend, it would have kept the profile of the GAA up too with the soccer Euro finals starting next Friday. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2705 - 04/06/2021 20:46:23 2348284 Link 1 |
Are you not being presumptuous great point. Maybe Clare will be in division one. Dublin won all ireland last year without playing any team that are division one this year. Does it matter? No! They beat what was in front of them. As for Ulster the provincial champions like Munster are division 3 and have to play a relegation game to to avoid division 4.We all know Ulster is the most competitive province but unless you want an open draw it's not going to change. From reading alot of posts over the years it's seems to ve the Ulster counties that want to jeep the provincial system the most.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3625 - 04/06/2021 21:23:46 2348300 Link 2 |
Scenario 1: Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9073 - 08/06/2021 15:48:24 2349024 Link 2 |
Kerry will have to beat 3 teams to get out of Munster this year lockjaw Donegal will have to win 4, being honest (and I don't mean any disrespect) but I think Tyrone will win Ulster this year and they will have played 3 games to get to the semi the same as us (if we get that far).
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/06/2021 16:23:01 2349033 Link 1 |
Yes but my example was hypothetical to illustrate the potential for lopsidedness and the inherent unfairness of the current system.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9073 - 08/06/2021 16:25:49 2349035 Link 2 |
Kerry play Clare first and then Tipp if they overcome Clare and then if they beat Tipp they play Cork and then if we win we play ulster champions in semi. Lockjaw the dogs in the street know the system is lopsided and Ulster is and always was the hardest province to come out of. However anytime it was mentioned before about scrapping the provincial system it seems that the biggest objectors are from Ulster While Cavan and Tipp brought great joy last year I for one would be happy to have an open draw in the championship. For me the provincial can be played but not as part of an all ireland series. Its time for change but as we know it's a slow process. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3625 - 08/06/2021 16:51:48 2349043 Link 0 |
Kerry have to play 3 games compared to Tyrones 3 games? Yes, that is correct. But, Kerry are playing Limerick, Tipperary, and Cork. Whereas Tyrone play Cavan Donegal and Monaghan/Armagh. I don't know about you but I think I'd much rather play Limerick/Tipp/Cork. While we're talking about things that won't happen this year then I think Galway will win Munster this year. MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 08/06/2021 17:01:09 2349045 Link 2 |
Ah you would have to back the team who knocked the Dubs off their perch all day long, the confidence that would bring to a team alone, couldn't be bought, and a two week break between semis and final, "freshness" wouldn't even come into the equation.
AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 08/06/2021 17:01:18 2349046 Link 0 |
I would prefer to play Fermanagh or Antrim than Clare or Tipp but that won't be happening. Dublin won't win ulster this year either.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3625 - 08/06/2021 18:18:58 2349062 Link 2 |