This will be an interesting game. If Donegal's defence doesn't tighten up further then Dublin will have a field day. Donegal had a lot of injuries yesterday so it's anyone's guess what the starting 15 will be.
Watched Dublin v Kerry and felt Dublin played within themselves personally. Felt there was more there and that they are 100% the team to beat for anyone later this year once more. Costello and O'Callaghan are outrageous really. Their squad is something else. We have a very strong panel too particularly if all are available but our defensive game isn't at the top tier and that alone is going to be our downfall if not resolved.
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We will likely give a few fringe players a run out in this game, nothing in it for us as we can't play the league final even in the unlikely event we beat Dublin, I'm not convinced at all by what I've seen from Donegal so far, it will be a very big achievement for us if we could win Ulster this year, unless it all clicks together in the next month or so but it's been unconvincing stuff from us this year I'm sorry to say, Ulster is a pure minefield, very impressed with Monaghan so far, they have a good chance to make the Ulster final the side of the draw they are on.
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This was posted as a new thread but since the subject matter is the same it has been incorporated here.
TheRock2121 (616) 31/05/2021 21:55
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A pity this match wasn't 2 weeks before our first round game in Ulster away to Down. Plagued with injures to Murphy, Brenann, Gillespie, Mc Grath, Mc Gee, Eoin Mc Hugh etc we are bound to rest key players for this match vs the All Ireland champions. No doubt in my mind we will play a weak team like we did in Kerry last year when we had a chance of winning the league also, albeit an outside chance
Just makes me think that the GAA really missed a trick here., why not finish the competition? I know there's another thread regarding that but it is annoying.
Should still be an interesting game and it will be good to test ourselves against a powerful Dublin team.
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It's a pity that this game couldn't be played even a week earlier as it would be a very good work out ahead of the Ulster Championship. I just can't see Donegal fielding a strong side in this and Dublin might do the same. We have a good few injuries and niggles as it is what with Murphy, Brennan, McGrath, McGee and Gallen not seeing any game time at the weekend. It will hopefully be an opportunity for the likes of the two Odhrans, Jason McGee and Conor O'Donnell to get a full game under their belts.
Dublin are in ominous form again. Did they even get out of third gear yet? From what I've seen of the League so far Kerry are the only team close to them.
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Replying To Lockjaw: "It's a pity that this game couldn't be played even a week earlier as it would be a very good work out ahead of the Ulster Championship. I just can't see Donegal fielding a strong side in this and Dublin might do the same. We have a good few injuries and niggles as it is what with Murphy, Brennan, McGrath, McGee and Gallen not seeing any game time at the weekend. It will hopefully be an opportunity for the likes of the two Odhrans, Jason McGee and Conor O'Donnell to get a full game under their belts.
Dublin are in ominous form again. Did they even get out of third gear yet? From what I've seen of the League so far Kerry are the only team close to them." Who do Dublin have to come back in that haven't appeared yet? Cluxton Mc Carthy(maybe he played) Mannion ?
See Howard playing the last day. Some player.
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Replying To TheRock2121: "Who do Dublin have to come back in that haven't appeared yet? Cluxton Mc Carthy(maybe he played) Mannion ?
See Howard playing the last day. Some player." Cluxton and Rock have to come back and maybe Cian Ó Sullivan. From the bench Kevin Mac.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3625 - 01/06/2021 11:54:06
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Replying To CiarraiMick: "Cluxton and Rock have to come back and maybe Cian Ó Sullivan. From the bench Kevin Mac." John Small to come back from injury too.
DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 01/06/2021 12:47:06
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Replying To DUBJOHN: "John Small to come back from injury too." Ah we know that John. We meant players to come back that we have nt seen in the league.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3625 - 01/06/2021 13:19:35
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Replying To TheRock2121: "Who do Dublin have to come back in that haven't appeared yet? Cluxton Mc Carthy(maybe he played) Mannion ?
See Howard playing the last day. Some player." Agreed. Howard is a class player. I think Mannion has opted out has he not? It's incredible to think that players like McCaffrey, Mannion and even Connolly, who would still undoubtedly do a job, are gone from the Dublin panel and they haven't even flinched.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9073 - 01/06/2021 13:46:03
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Replying To Lockjaw: "Agreed. Howard is a class player. I think Mannion has opted out has he not? It's incredible to think that players like McCaffrey, Mannion and even Connolly, who would still undoubtedly do a job, are gone from the Dublin panel and they haven't even flinched." What type of Donegal team is likely to take to the field for this one, honestly think it's a game Donegal could do without - I think Donegal will see this as a fixture that has to be fulfilled with out picking up any injuries- could we see a 2nd string Donegal with 7,8 or 9 changes?
jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 01/06/2021 15:32:30
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Replying To jacktheDub: "What type of Donegal team is likely to take to the field for this one, honestly think it's a game Donegal could do without - I think Donegal will see this as a fixture that has to be fulfilled with out picking up any injuries- could we see a 2nd string Donegal with 7,8 or 9 changes?" Yes I'd say it will just be a run out for lads that need to get minutes into the legs, pointless game for us otherwise, likely the same for Dublin because if Kerry beat Tyrone there will be no league final, not sure but I can't see Tyrone being too bothered about showing their hand in Killarney, very likely these 2 could be meeting in the All Ireland semi final.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2705 - 01/06/2021 15:51:20
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Replying To jacktheDub: "What type of Donegal team is likely to take to the field for this one, honestly think it's a game Donegal could do without - I think Donegal will see this as a fixture that has to be fulfilled with out picking up any injuries- could we see a 2nd string Donegal with 7,8 or 9 changes?" This is a wild guess...as I said earlier I cannot see too many automatic starters appearing. But at the same time I'm sure Bonner wants to avoid a lambs to the slaughter type scenario. It's a tricky one for the management.
1.Michael Lynch
2. Caolan Ward 3. Stephen McMenamin 4. Odhran Mc Fadden-Ferry
5. Ethan O'Donnell 6. Paul Brennan 7. Daire O'Baíoll
8. Jason McGee 9. Odhran MacNiallais
10. Conor O'Donnell 11. Niall O'Donnell 12. Eoin McHugh
13. Eoghan McGettigan 14. Jamie Brennan 15. Oisin Gallen
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9073 - 01/06/2021 15:51:47
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Replying To Lockjaw: "This is a wild guess...as I said earlier I cannot see too many automatic starters appearing. But at the same time I'm sure Bonner wants to avoid a lambs to the slaughter type scenario. It's a tricky one for the management.
1.Michael Lynch
2. Caolan Ward 3. Stephen McMenamin 4. Odhran Mc Fadden-Ferry
5. Ethan O'Donnell 6. Paul Brennan 7. Daire O'Baíoll
8. Jason McGee 9. Odhran MacNiallais
10. Conor O'Donnell 11. Niall O'Donnell 12. Eoin McHugh
13. Eoghan McGettigan 14. Jamie Brennan 15. Oisin Gallen" Can't see mc Menamin being risked. Brennan, Gallan injured so be interesting to see who plays.!!
TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1125 - 01/06/2021 17:03:58
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Replying To Lockjaw: "It's a pity that this game couldn't be played even a week earlier as it would be a very good work out ahead of the Ulster Championship. I just can't see Donegal fielding a strong side in this and Dublin might do the same. We have a good few injuries and niggles as it is what with Murphy, Brennan, McGrath, McGee and Gallen not seeing any game time at the weekend. It will hopefully be an opportunity for the likes of the two Odhrans, Jason McGee and Conor O'Donnell to get a full game under their belts.
Dublin are in ominous form again. Did they even get out of third gear yet? From what I've seen of the League so far Kerry are the only team close to them." I know you only posed the question but the thing i find annoying is this notion that Dublin are largely in 3rd gear until the real business commences. Dublin are full on all the time and it is somewhat disingenuous to Kerry and maybe ourselves given what we witnessed on the last two Sundays. The real difference is that most counties may have one/two standout forwards but Dublin have 3/4 each time and that is the key difference. If you watch them closely they recycle the ball just like every other team. They go defensive just like most other teams. They just are better than other teams but if they were in 3rd gear they would be beaten.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1941 - 01/06/2021 17:24:43
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Replying To kiloughter: "I know you only posed the question but the thing i find annoying is this notion that Dublin are largely in 3rd gear until the real business commences. Dublin are full on all the time and it is somewhat disingenuous to Kerry and maybe ourselves given what we witnessed on the last two Sundays. The real difference is that most counties may have one/two standout forwards but Dublin have 3/4 each time and that is the key difference. If you watch them closely they recycle the ball just like every other team. They go defensive just like most other teams. They just are better than other teams but if they were in 3rd gear they would be beaten." Agree Dublin are beatable on a given day and will come unstuck if they show disrespect to opponents, which is what playing in third gear suggests. Sure as with all of the top teams they can generate a greater urgency/intensity in big championship games. Where I see a difference between Dublin and their rivals is an apparent knack of suddenly "upping the ante" in big games and playing with a ruthless efficiency just for a few minutes and killing the game before their opponents have a chance to take stock. So no Dublin don't go around playing in third gear but I do think they save these ruthlessly efficient episodes for critical periods in big games.
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 661 - 01/06/2021 20:24:36
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Not starting another argument here but it's a shame this great Dublin team don't get tested, no fault of their own. No disrespect to Cavan or an aging Mayo but last year most teams would have fancied their chances of winning An All Ireland if that was the last 2 teams to beat.
This year they play Mayo in the semi final, who by their fans own accounts, aren't the same force as they were. Dublin could win by 10 plus and that's them in another All Ireland final.
Nothing new in this post but the All Ireland series is a complete joke. Needs restructuring. Dublin aren't even thinking about Leinster and all eyes on Donegal. While we have to worry about a Down team who destroyed the reigning Ulster champions in the first half of their semi final last year. If we get over that if have the form team in Ulster, Derry under the ex Donegal manager Rory Gallagher. If we win that we have Tyrone no doubt in a neutral venue. Win that and we play another division one team in Armagh or Monaghan.
While Dublin play, with all due respect, Wicklow, Carlow and the winner of Meath/Kildare.
An honest question, how many All Irelands would Dublin have if they were in Ulster before the All Ireland knockout series!?
Again, this is not a dig at this great Dublin team, the greatest we will ever see, it's just frustrating that the draw each year gives them, and Kerry, huge advantages over the rest, especially Ulster teams.
If a team wins Ulster, they celebrate after an epic run through the province, Dublin use Leinster as a training camp, once more no fault of their own.
MOVE THEM TO ULSTER
TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1125 - 01/06/2021 21:54:11
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Replying To TheRock2121: "Not starting another argument here but it's a shame this great Dublin team don't get tested, no fault of their own. No disrespect to Cavan or an aging Mayo but last year most teams would have fancied their chances of winning An All Ireland if that was the last 2 teams to beat.
This year they play Mayo in the semi final, who by their fans own accounts, aren't the same force as they were. Dublin could win by 10 plus and that's them in another All Ireland final.
Nothing new in this post but the All Ireland series is a complete joke. Needs restructuring. Dublin aren't even thinking about Leinster and all eyes on Donegal. While we have to worry about a Down team who destroyed the reigning Ulster champions in the first half of their semi final last year. If we get over that if have the form team in Ulster, Derry under the ex Donegal manager Rory Gallagher. If we win that we have Tyrone no doubt in a neutral venue. Win that and we play another division one team in Armagh or Monaghan.
While Dublin play, with all due respect, Wicklow, Carlow and the winner of Meath/Kildare.
An honest question, how many All Irelands would Dublin have if they were in Ulster before the All Ireland knockout series!?
Again, this is not a dig at this great Dublin team, the greatest we will ever see, it's just frustrating that the draw each year gives them, and Kerry, huge advantages over the rest, especially Ulster teams.
If a team wins Ulster, they celebrate after an epic run through the province, Dublin use Leinster as a training camp, once more no fault of their own.
MOVE THEM TO ULSTER" HAVE AN OPEN DRAW
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/06/2021 13:52:41
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Replying To TheRock2121: "Not starting another argument here but it's a shame this great Dublin team don't get tested, no fault of their own. No disrespect to Cavan or an aging Mayo but last year most teams would have fancied their chances of winning An All Ireland if that was the last 2 teams to beat.
This year they play Mayo in the semi final, who by their fans own accounts, aren't the same force as they were. Dublin could win by 10 plus and that's them in another All Ireland final.
Nothing new in this post but the All Ireland series is a complete joke. Needs restructuring. Dublin aren't even thinking about Leinster and all eyes on Donegal. While we have to worry about a Down team who destroyed the reigning Ulster champions in the first half of their semi final last year. If we get over that if have the form team in Ulster, Derry under the ex Donegal manager Rory Gallagher. If we win that we have Tyrone no doubt in a neutral venue. Win that and we play another division one team in Armagh or Monaghan.
While Dublin play, with all due respect, Wicklow, Carlow and the winner of Meath/Kildare.
An honest question, how many All Irelands would Dublin have if they were in Ulster before the All Ireland knockout series!?
Again, this is not a dig at this great Dublin team, the greatest we will ever see, it's just frustrating that the draw each year gives them, and Kerry, huge advantages over the rest, especially Ulster teams.
If a team wins Ulster, they celebrate after an epic run through the province, Dublin use Leinster as a training camp, once more no fault of their own.
MOVE THEM TO ULSTER" Slightly tongue in cheek but if Dublin have it handy in Leinster and you are correct on that front as it is the weakest province arguably Mayo have it awful easy given they are in the semi final already according to your good self. I do get what you are saying in general and if there was ever a time for an open draw with Covid etc and thus limiting the desire for the tradition of keeping the provincial championships this was the moment. Unfortunately missed. The other point about Ulster though is what makes it a good provincial championship is it has the most teams of a relatively equal standard. That does not make the teams better than in the other provinces necessarily and the record shows that since your great win in the 2014 semi final only Mayo and Kerry have come close to the Dubs at the business end of the season.
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Open draw 32 teams, you'd have to have a prelim round to include London and New York I suppose, 2 tier Championship starting next year is it? The way it is at the minute is no good for anyone.
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Replying To TheRock2121: "Not starting another argument here but it's a shame this great Dublin team don't get tested, no fault of their own. No disrespect to Cavan or an aging Mayo but last year most teams would have fancied their chances of winning An All Ireland if that was the last 2 teams to beat.
This year they play Mayo in the semi final, who by their fans own accounts, aren't the same force as they were. Dublin could win by 10 plus and that's them in another All Ireland final.
Nothing new in this post but the All Ireland series is a complete joke. Needs restructuring. Dublin aren't even thinking about Leinster and all eyes on Donegal. While we have to worry about a Down team who destroyed the reigning Ulster champions in the first half of their semi final last year. If we get over that if have the form team in Ulster, Derry under the ex Donegal manager Rory Gallagher. If we win that we have Tyrone no doubt in a neutral venue. Win that and we play another division one team in Armagh or Monaghan.
While Dublin play, with all due respect, Wicklow, Carlow and the winner of Meath/Kildare.
An honest question, how many All Irelands would Dublin have if they were in Ulster before the All Ireland knockout series!?
Again, this is not a dig at this great Dublin team, the greatest we will ever see, it's just frustrating that the draw each year gives them, and Kerry, huge advantages over the rest, especially Ulster teams.
If a team wins Ulster, they celebrate after an epic run through the province, Dublin use Leinster as a training camp, once more no fault of their own.
MOVE THEM TO ULSTER" An honest question, maybe your looking for an honest answer, never heard of an honest question? In truth no one knows how the Dubs have fared if they were in Ulster. Personally I think the quality in Ulster over the last few years would be unlikely to trouble Dublin, I wouldn't fancy Cavan's chances of winning the province if Dublin were in it. Sure Ulster is competitive because of Tyrone, Donegal and Monaghan being relatively even and there are "some" signs this year of those teams moving forward but in the last few years I don't think Dublin would have lost their way in Ulster. No doubt though the provincial system is uneven.
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