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Who were the last team to beat Dublin in Championship football? Noone in Leinster anyway that's for sure.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9854 - 23/04/2021 09:36:16 2338483 Link 4 |
Dublin would walk the Ulster championship same way as they walk leinster the proof was last year when they enilitated the Ulster champions
Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 23/04/2021 10:22:56 2338488 Link 1 |
I've a feeling you will be saying that for the next number of years. You trot that one out every year. Flukes do happen. But not very often.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/04/2021 10:52:09 2338493 Link 0 |
Some people like living in a make believe world.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/04/2021 10:52:55 2338494 Link 0 |
Yeah they do they think Ulster is the greatest thing since sliced bread end of the day dubs hammer them every year same as they do the rest of us
Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 23/04/2021 11:17:54 2338497 Link 0 |
It clearly is the best provincial competition though, and it worth watching at each stage more than the others. Any one of 7 out of the 9 teams are in with a chance of winning it. And likely the Dubs would walk it, but at least they'd be challenged a bit
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2480 - 23/04/2021 11:50:20 2338503 Link 0 |
If Dublin had to go into ballybofey, clones or healey park omagh on a championship Sunday with a full house in a knockout championship match, they would know they were in a game.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2643 - 23/04/2021 12:04:33 2338504 Link 6 |
It was hardly a fluke now was it? Beat them all ends up that day. Facts are facts - we're the last team to beat them in Championship football.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9854 - 23/04/2021 12:19:26 2338506 Link 3 |
which 7 teams?? Cause Derry, Down, Fermanagh, Antrim haven't a hope
wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1734 - 23/04/2021 12:28:32 2338510 Link 0 |
I have no doubt that Dublin can go clones ballyboefey etc and wipe the floor with teams but do it 3 games in a row against cavan Tyrone donegal, monaghan armagh and then ulster final in a neutral ground and I can guarantee you Dublin would not win 10 ulster's in a row. Then win an ulster final and then go to super 8s or quarter final and maintain that level and I can guarantee you that Dublin would not have won the 6 in a row. It is not possible to sustain that consistency in ulster compared to leinster. Not a hope. That is the difference in the provinces and provincials. I have no doubt if monaghan Tyrone wasin leinster the last 10 years and Dublin was in ulster monaghan tyrone would have an all ireland to their name, basically because they don't need to sustain the same level for a long period of time. Its the difference. monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 416 - 23/04/2021 13:50:29 2338520 Link 9 |
Well definitely not Antrim, but at any time I'd reckon 7 could realistically challenge if things fell their way. Down in a semi final last year, could have won that if they kept up their 1st half. Fermanagh in a final recently too. Derry is probably outside that 7. Look, people would have said the same about Cavan last year. There's clearly a top 3/4, but there are other teams who could do it with luck of the draw and a good run which we showed last year
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2480 - 23/04/2021 13:56:58 2338522 Link 0 |
This. Couldn't have put it any better myself. It's not a level playing field for Ulster teams
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2480 - 23/04/2021 14:08:56 2338525 Link 0 |
Down are going to beat donegal Derry Tyrone/cavan and possibly Monaghan or armagh to win the Ulster title same goes for Derry. Antrim and fermanagh no hope to win it Monaghan are past it by now so where on earth is there 7 teams that can lift the trophy comein from
Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 23/04/2021 14:29:04 2338531 Link 0 |
Keep thinking we are past it. We have just as good of young players coming through as any other ulster team. I am loving how we are being written off. We have about 8 players under 25 that would walk onto any other team in ulster. Just a matter of putting it all together. Arguably better players now than when Hughes, wylies, Walshe, Corey, mones were at that age. monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 416 - 23/04/2021 14:43:09 2338537 Link 1 |
Exactly, that's why an open draw championship is the way to go. Play provincials, then an open draw championship.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2367 - 23/04/2021 14:43:10 2338538 Link 3 |
I'm not just on about this year. But going on recent years, if the likes of Down get a kinder draw, there's no reason why they couldn't make a final and then pull out a performance. Down have no hope this year, that is a hellish draw for them tbf. I gave my reasons above and went through them, there's a top 3/4 who will likely win it, and then maybe another 3 who will need some luck of the draw and a big performance to win it (e.g. Cavan last year, Monaghan in 2013 and so on - it does happen in Ulster). There's then 2 or so who don't have a chance Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2480 - 23/04/2021 15:14:54 2338541 Link 0 |
The GAA still need to keep the provincials in my opinion. We have been blessed in the last ten years here in Donegal that we've won 5. Before that it was 19 years. Ask Derry or Down fans if they'd turn their noses up at an Ulster title these days. Same for Fermanagh and Antrim. Cavan ended a long wait last year and it was wildly and deservedly celebrated. It was a similar story down in Tipperary. In my life time I've seen the likes of Clare, Sligo, Leitrim & Westmeath win provincial titles. Are any of them realistically ever going to win an All Ireland? Probably not, but where there's a chance of a provincial title the dream is always there. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9854 - 23/04/2021 16:04:39 2338549 Link 0 |
As much as I love the Ulster Championship I think the provincial system is finished, we need a 3 tiered All Ireland series, Senior, intermediate and Junior, then every county has a chance to win a National title at their own level. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3308 - 23/04/2021 21:59:48 2338569 Link 0 |
So true. It works at club level,and for a small Junior club winning a County Championship is a wonderful occasion and celebrated as joyously as a bigger clubs Senior win. Then it is followed by a crack at the bigger boys the next year. Maybe a 12 team Senior Championship with 10 team Intermediate and Junior Championship
seamusorinn (USA) - Posts: 295 - 23/04/2021 23:16:10 2338586 Link 1 |
Yes exactly and run your cup competitions like provincials straight knockout on certain weekends throughout the year. Just like the premier league and FA cup model.
monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 416 - 24/04/2021 09:17:04 2338599 Link 1 |