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All Ireland Football Final 2020 - Dublin V Mayo

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "There is no other team sport where the favorite wins more often. Very poor sport for tactics, unimaginative."
Cavan v Monaghan
Cavan v Donegal
Cork v Kerry
Tipp v Cork

...were all upsets this year.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4742 - 17/12/2020 12:06:02    2323108

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If the Dubs can stop Mayo from scoring goals before the second water break, they have a chance. Mayo to win this

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1226 - 17/12/2020 12:16:41    2323109

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "There is no other team sport where the favorite wins more often. Very poor sport for tactics, unimaginative."
Formula One , Rugby Union ?
Both team sports where very dominant.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2313 - 17/12/2020 12:32:33    2323115

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Go way out of that. If Dublin beat us it will be because they have a better team and players. If We play out of our skin and bring war (which I think we will) then we have a chance.

Money does not make Con dance through our defence or Rock kick a pressure free.

I don't understand this defeatist attitude people have when facing Dublin. Maybe that's a reason so many teams are beat before they face them. We have a chance."
"Money does not make Con dance through our defence or Rock kick a pressure free" Rock is a good free taker, so what ? Most counties have a good free taker. It's hardly the greatest skill in the world, bloody hell.

Is "money" a simplistic term for "long term sustained financial investment". Don't try and tell me that that professional coaching, facilities etc etc cannot improve players. And all of this is paid for by a thing we call "money".

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 17/12/2020 12:32:51    2323116

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "I think the team with the best result against Dublin this year will be Westmeath. Cant see Mayo getting within a pigs roar of them."
Best scoreline, but a result that dies nothing for them.

Cavan, for example, lost by more but at least tried to express themselves in the game. And will learn more as a result.

Going out to "lose by less than the rest" is not a laudable approach.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5245 - 17/12/2020 12:50:05    2323119

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Best scoreline, but a result that dies nothing for them.

Cavan, for example, lost by more but at least tried to express themselves in the game. And will learn more as a result.

Going out to "lose by less than the rest" is not a laudable approach."
How do you know the Westmeath result does nothing for them? They had the best result of any of the major teams in Leinster against Dublin, that has to count for something. Cavan were out on their feet with 30 mins gone. Expressing yourself won't put boxty on the table for supper my fellow Gael.

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 17/12/2020 13:11:33    2323125

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Replying To tonguey:  "you don't understand the Defeatist attitude?? Maybe it is because they hammer every team they play. Nobody is denying they have wonderful players. They have indeed.

What the issue is why do they seem fitter, better conditioned, have better resources, have better structures etc etc. If you are happy to accept that well that is yor choice. I for one am not. Until the GAA wake up and smell the rasher and start dividing the money more fairly I refuse to accept this status quo"
I hazard a guess and say most top tier counties ( of which Cavan are not one of) have players that seem fitter, better conditioned, have better resources, have better structures etc etc.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 17/12/2020 13:25:20    2323131

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "How do you know the Westmeath result does nothing for them? They had the best result of any of the major teams in Leinster against Dublin, that has to count for something. Cavan were out on their feet with 30 mins gone. Expressing yourself won't put boxty on the table for supper my fellow Gael."
Boxty??? What the hell is boxty???

the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 17/12/2020 13:25:22    2323132

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "There is no other team sport where the favorite wins more often. Very poor sport for tactics, unimaginative."
Favourites are turned over plenty of times in the league when teams of similar level play each other.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1206 - 17/12/2020 13:30:06    2323133

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Favourites are turned over plenty of times in the league when teams of similar level play each other."
Assume he is on about the only thing that top teams are measured by- the championship. Nobody remembers anything about the league, as in who goes up or down. It is irrelevant

the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 17/12/2020 13:40:58    2323140

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Replying To tonguey:  "Why? They are playing the only professional set up in the country in their own backyard with a referee from a neighbouring county. Yea they have a great chance!!"
You would want to tread carefully as you are beginning to sound even more bitter than some of the Kerry boys and I didn't think that was possible

Liffeylad (Dublin) - Posts: 76 - 17/12/2020 13:42:37    2323143

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Replying To tonguey:  "Boxty??? What the hell is boxty???"
If you are from Cavan or Longford then you certainly know what boxty is.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3901 - 17/12/2020 13:48:26    2323144

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Replying To Liffeylad:  "You would want to tread carefully as you are beginning to sound even more bitter than some of the Kerry boys and I didn't think that was possible"
If anything I wrote is untrue point it out

the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 17/12/2020 13:58:53    2323146

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Why on earth is the final on a Saturday night? It should be on Sunday afternoon. The GAA mention tradition a lot but when it comes to facilitating tv stations it seems tradition is blown out the window.

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 17/12/2020 14:04:10    2323148

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Formula One , Rugby Union ?
Both team sports where very dominant."
Surely you're not comparing racing cars to Gaelic football ? In any case it's not classed as a team sport. Rugby is fine but the stats don't lie, Gaelic football is miles ahead when it comes to favorites winning.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 17/12/2020 14:07:11    2323149

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Replying To maroondiesel:  "If the Dubs can stop Mayo from scoring goals before the second water break, they have a chance. Mayo to win this"
I think Mayo can win also, best of luck to the Mayo team Saturday

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1731 - 17/12/2020 14:08:51    2323151

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Favourites are turned over plenty of times in the league when teams of similar level play each other."
So if they are at a similar level, then the odds are fairly similar also. And you can see that in the odds offered.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 17/12/2020 14:12:42    2323154

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "Why on earth is the final on a Saturday night? It should be on Sunday afternoon. The GAA mention tradition a lot but when it comes to facilitating tv stations it seems tradition is blown out the window."
Well Republic, I reckon a lot of folks will be thankful its on a Saturday. Winners/losers/ neutrals can have a few drinks and not worry about having to drive the next day. I can't wait myself!

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1990 - 17/12/2020 14:23:40    2323165

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Replying To tonguey:  "If anything I wrote is untrue point it out"
Well...you said you were a woman...remember???

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1990 - 17/12/2020 14:24:27    2323166

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "Surely you're not comparing racing cars to Gaelic football ? In any case it's not classed as a team sport. Rugby is fine but the stats don't lie, Gaelic football is miles ahead when it comes to favorites winning."
Formula One is actually classed a team sport consisting of 10 teams.
You did say " no other sport ". Also, GAA is not miles ahead. League games are evidence of that.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2313 - 17/12/2020 14:27:38    2323168

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