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All Ireland Football Final 2020 - Dublin V Mayo

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Replying To ponga: "Probably fitting that the two top teams of the decade see it out." Certainly Mayo have a claim to being the second best team of the decade and strange in saying that, that they haven't won an AI. That could change this weekend but I think there is that bit of pressure on Mayo to convert one of these chances and not be seen as the nearly men. That could spur them on and they are a very well conditioned side so there won't be any issue with fitness matching Dublin which is at least one part of the equation. Whether that's enough, well, we'll soon see. The six in a row would be a bonus after last year though. Roll on Saturday 5pm. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2313 - 16/12/2020 21:47:58 2323026 Link
Replying To Pericles: "3 or 4 to 1 in a two horse race Dubh-linn and every pundit tipping the Dubs, so no pressure from those quarters. How many Dubs supporters genuinely expect their team to lose? I know plenty of Mayo supporters who think the team can win, but none who think it's the likely outcome, so no pressure there either. As for neutrals, most of them just feel sorry for us having to have our Christmas dinners flavoured by the bitter aftertaste of a hiding. The players themselves will have their own expectations but no one else's burden to carry." If that's how you see it then fair enough but there must be pressure to get over the line having reached another final. From a Dublin perspective I think a lot of supporters, want the win obviously, but see it as a bit of a free shot having done the 5 in a row last year. That , and the retirements and Jim Gavin going leaves a relatively clean slate and a bit of a sense that ,although Dublin are still favourites ,there's a bit of a feeling that it's a new chapter. Whatever way it turns out , I think Mayo are likely to still be a threat over the next few years but won't want this habit of losing finals to continue which in itself bring an element of expectation and pressure. The lack of a traditional build up may well help Mayo too though so it'll be interesting to see what, if any, impact that has. Anyway, really looking forward to it. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2313 - 16/12/2020 23:08:31 2323041 Link
Replying To Dubh_linn: "Certainly Mayo have a claim to being the second best team of the decade and strange in saying that, that they haven't won an AI. That could change this weekend but I think there is that bit of pressure on Mayo to convert one of these chances and not be seen as the nearly men. That could spur them on and they are a very well conditioned side so there won't be any issue with fitness matching Dublin which is at least one part of the equation. Whether that's enough, well, we'll soon see. The six in a row would be a bonus after last year though. Roll on Saturday 5pm." Honestly not the case, ive never seen as little pressure/ expectation on Mayo, Paddy powers have them at 5:1 , the Dublin memorabilia for 6 in a row is under a lot of Christmas trees already. I haven't spoken to one confident Mayo fan of winning and rightly so.......we haven't beaten Dublin in 8 years and with 9 debutantes in an All Ireland final panel is not the way to do it. Other years yes when we had a stronger more experienced team, this year anything past the Connaught final (which we hadnt won in several years) is bonus territory . club51 (Mayo) - Posts: 395 - 17/12/2020 08:45:54 2323057 Link
Replying To Pericles: "Galway played Mayo man for man in the league game the few weeks before and it didn't go well. What makes Galway a decent team is that they didn't make the same mistake in Salthill and were able to adapt to be more defensive. The Dubs will defend in numbers (like everyone else) but won't set up to be defensive. So whatever way it goes on Saturday it won't be like the Connacht final unless Horan has a complete change of philosophy and Mayo set up to try to keep the score down. That won't happen... better to die with your boots on having played your own game. The fact that the Dubs have hockeyed everyone else up to this and so many expect the same again on Saturday oddly takes a lot of pressure off Mayo allowing the team to simply concentrate on themselves." couldnt agree more............whats another year, they have nothing to loose, its actually Dublins to loose. No pressure, no hype, no hill 16, no 4 hour journey home, no tickets.......just a crack at the greatest team ever to have played the game. 1st time ever they actually got to sleep in their own beds the night before, hopefully no leaves on the track. :) They get to have a crack and the turkey is just around the corner to cheer us up if its a 10 pointer loss. club51 (Mayo) - Posts: 395 - 17/12/2020 08:51:27 2323059 Link
Replying To Dubh_linn: "I still think there is pressure on Mayo to win an All Ireland and also on Horan seeing as he has got a second chance. Dublin are in their first year of new manager and are going into this without some of the team that done the 5 in a row so I think the players will feel some pressure but it won't be like last year. In someways it's a fresh start. Mayo have some fresh players too which if anything probably strengthens their panel so I would see it as somewhat of a meeting of familiar faces with some strangers thrown in the mix. Cannot see there being too much in it in the end either way and Mayo have every chance." i think the whole country would disagree .......its zero pressure nothing expected. they are up against Lads looking to fill 8 all Ireland medals on the other hand , red hot favorites, and unbeaten in years................OMG unbeaten in years. Come on club51 (Mayo) - Posts: 395 - 17/12/2020 08:58:14 2323061 Link
Replying To ponga: "Probably fitting that the two top teams of the decade see it out." Kerry were better than Mayo this decade. Reached 4 All Irelands - won one. hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 430 - 17/12/2020 09:10:04 2323063 Link
I hope Mayo will win. This is a good chance for them. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2614 - 17/12/2020 09:44:45 2323068 Link
Replying To club51: "Honestly not the case, ive never seen as little pressure/ expectation on Mayo, Paddy powers have them at 5:1 , the Dublin memorabilia for 6 in a row is under a lot of Christmas trees already. I haven't spoken to one confident Mayo fan of winning and rightly so.......we haven't beaten Dublin in 8 years and with 9 debutantes in an All Ireland final panel is not the way to do it. Other years yes when we had a stronger more experienced team, this year anything past the Connaught final (which we hadnt won in several years) is bonus territory ." I certainly don't know of anyone who has memorabilia related to 6 in a row under the tree. We're certainly not taking Mayo for granted. If Mayo do win it'll be because they earn it. We have a new manager, some new additions to the panel and some of the best players to play the game have retired so it's not a foregone conclusion by any means. If we win , I'll be delighted but winning last year was special, this would be icing on the Christmas cake. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2313 - 17/12/2020 10:02:59 2323076 Link
Replying To galwayford: "I hope Mayo will win. This is a good chance for them." Why? They are playing the only professional set up in the country in their own backyard with a referee from a neighbouring county. Yea they have a great chance!! the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 17/12/2020 10:12:59 2323079 Link
There is a certain amount of pressure on Mayo, within the group itself. That's only natural. If you have been so close so often you can't just dismiss it as a shot to nothing. It's last chance for a 2 or 3 of them. That being said there is no pressure from the supporters this time around. I fancied Mayo to win in 2017 based on the year before. I don't fancy this this weekend. I said they would win Connacht and then see what happens against Kerry. That changed and their route to the final was straightforward after the Galway game. Mayo are a team in transition. 3 or 4 new players this year. There will be 1 or 2 new ones next year and the likes of Harrison and Eoin O Donoghue will return the the defence. Mayo are a in a good place for the next 6 or 7 years regardless of the result on Saturday. They will be back for more. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8369 - 17/12/2020 10:17:30 2323083 Link
Replying To club51: "i think the whole country would disagree .......its zero pressure nothing expected. they are up against Lads looking to fill 8 all Ireland medals on the other hand , red hot favorites, and unbeaten in years................OMG unbeaten in years. Come on" Club51 you need to broaden your horizon a lot. You seem to be one of the very few mayo people who are happy with Connaught. Reading most of ur posts your year is fulfilled if ye beat Galway. You couldn't pick a better year to throw in new young players ie no crowds, no hill 16. Dublin have to be bet at some stage. I will definitely be putting a few quid on at those odds of 5/1 Toman (Galway) - Posts: 622 - 17/12/2020 10:48:34 2323089 Link
Replying To tonguey: "Why? They are playing the only professional set up in the country in their own backyard with a referee from a neighbouring county. Yea they have a great chance!!" Go way out of that. If Dublin beat us it will be because they have a better team and players. If We play out of our skin and bring war (which I think we will) then we have a chance. Money does not make Con dance through our defence or Rock kick a pressure free. I don't understand this defeatist attitude people have when facing Dublin. Maybe that's a reason so many teams are beat before they face them. We have a chance. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11553 - 17/12/2020 11:00:10 2323091 Link
There is no other team sport where the favorite wins more often. Very poor sport for tactics, unimaginative. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 17/12/2020 11:26:26 2323097 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Go way out of that. If Dublin beat us it will be because they have a better team and players. If We play out of our skin and bring war (which I think we will) then we have a chance. Money does not make Con dance through our defence or Rock kick a pressure free. I don't understand this defeatist attitude people have when facing Dublin. Maybe that's a reason so many teams are beat before they face them. We have a chance." you don't understand the Defeatist attitude?? Maybe it is because they hammer every team they play. Nobody is denying they have wonderful players. They have indeed. What the issue is why do they seem fitter, better conditioned, have better resources, have better structures etc etc. If you are happy to accept that well that is yor choice. I for one am not. Until the GAA wake up and smell the rasher and start dividing the money more fairly I refuse to accept this status quo the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 17/12/2020 11:37:49 2323099 Link
Replying To club51: "Honestly not the case, ive never seen as little pressure/ expectation on Mayo, Paddy powers have them at 5:1 , the Dublin memorabilia for 6 in a row is under a lot of Christmas trees already. I haven't spoken to one confident Mayo fan of winning and rightly so.......we haven't beaten Dublin in 8 years and with 9 debutantes in an All Ireland final panel is not the way to do it. Other years yes when we had a stronger more experienced team, this year anything past the Connaught final (which we hadnt won in several years) is bonus territory ." Sounds like this is the year ye will do it so. Seriously, I do think this is a real opportunity for Mayo. There is a different dynamic to this year's fixture. Different time of year, no crowd, Dublin untested - I just have a feeling. It's always dangerous for a Dub to say positive things about Mayo lest they accused of being patronising but I'll say it anyway: If any team in Ireland were to topple the Dubs I'd want it to be Mayo. I say this for several reasons: . they were unlucky not to win 2 of their last encounters with Dublin; they seem to have an unquenchable will to win; they are the one team that scare Dubs fans and really test the team to the limit. Yeah, If it's Mayo's night on Saturday I'll gladly raise a glass to them. After several narrow victories over them I'd often think of what it must have been like on that long road back to the West. Well, most of them will be home this Saturday so they wont have far to go to celebrate if they do it. avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1990 - 17/12/2020 11:47:04 2323100 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Go way out of that. If Dublin beat us it will be because they have a better team and players. If We play out of our skin and bring war (which I think we will) then we have a chance. Money does not make Con dance through our defence or Rock kick a pressure free. I don't understand this defeatist attitude people have when facing Dublin. Maybe that's a reason so many teams are beat before they face them. We have a chance." what war? the cod war like between Iceland and Britain in the 1970s? republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 17/12/2020 11:54:09 2323102 Link
Mayo to win by 4.. no doubt.. Galwaymaster9 (Galway) - Posts: 397 - 17/12/2020 11:55:48 2323104 Link
I really hope the match officials keep an even and balanced reign on the final. In the recent past it seems the referee has become the centre of attention for all the wrong reasons. We shouldn't know who the ref even is, they should be invisible, they shouldn't trying to be friends with the players and they shouldn't be entertaining players coming up joking with them like one team in the final does, keep out of the way, make the game flow fairly and evenly and go home then without any issues. republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 17/12/2020 11:57:10 2323105 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Go way out of that. If Dublin beat us it will be because they have a better team and players. If We play out of our skin and bring war (which I think we will) then we have a chance. Money does not make Con dance through our defence or Rock kick a pressure free. I don't understand this defeatist attitude people have when facing Dublin. Maybe that's a reason so many teams are beat before they face them. We have a chance." That's the type of attitude I like to see. Dublin have to be bet at some stage so why not. Dublin are a fantastic team but haven't been tested at all this year. Personally I think that's going to change Sunday. Whoever wins it won't be a cricket score. It would be brilliant for football if Dublin are bet. Toman (Galway) - Posts: 622 - 17/12/2020 12:02:23 2323106 Link
Replying To Toman: "That's the type of attitude I like to see. Dublin have to be bet at some stage so why not. Dublin are a fantastic team but haven't been tested at all this year. Personally I think that's going to change Sunday. Whoever wins it won't be a cricket score. It would be brilliant for football if Dublin are bet." I think the team with the best result against Dublin this year will be Westmeath. Cant see Mayo getting within a pigs roar of them. republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 17/12/2020 12:05:56 2323107 Link