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Replying To YellowShadeOfPurple:  "How do you think Ferns will cope without Eoin Murphy and Dermot Doyle? Two very big players in recent seasons. I agree with you about Gavin Bailey but I was more surprised Eoin Murphy didn't get an into the Wexford panel this year, I've been hugely impressed with him, he seems to have been discarded based on a poor display against Clare in the league last year when most were poor. Maybe he was asked in but declined due to travelling I don't know but he's a tidy hurler."
He has a great physical frame and has a great work ethic but I think he falls below the level of senior intercounty starter

They're losses alright and the fact that they're two of Ferns's younger hurlers would be even more of a loss as they would both offer pace, especially Diarmuid Doyle. Mind you, out of the Ferns's starting team, only really Tommy Dwyer and Johnny Dwyer could be considered members of the old guard

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 342 - 07/07/2024 10:24:37    2557341

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Yeah, results this week make me think Senior is less competitive than I thought it was going to be, we've had a good number of teams with realistic prospects of winning Senior in the last few years, looks like this year we're going to have fewer capable of winning so maybe we see a top team emerge? Some of our champions in the last few years have been weak enough in Leinster, we need someone to break out of the pack

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 342 - 07/07/2024 10:26:59    2557343

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Hearne was fantastic alright.

Felt bad for the young keeper. It was an extremely costly blunder.

Harriers had no bench though which was the difference."
Only match I could get to this weekend!!! Thought the harriers were full value for there lead at half time!!! On the flip side I thought the harriers half back line was under pressure on puck outs with shels catching great ball and producing two great goals from it!!! It was a game of two half's really,the harriers went missing really in the second half,gave alot of frees away,there top players chin Lawlor Luke Murphy Clancy went missing to be honest!!! Shels just worked away and got over the line!!! Bit of a fortunate goal with harriers goalman doyle let one through his hand into the net!!! Shels were just hard working,struggled to get scores from play which they will need to improve on!!! Harriers will have to tighten up at the back big time!!! I feel the loss of Richie kehoe in the harriers defence is huge,I don't think he would have let runners down the middle walk in,think a lad mentioned he's got a tore hamstring!!! If harriers can play as they did in the first half they would take stopping and stop the goals they would be a handfull for anyone!!! Best for harriers was bridges in midfield,Farrel up front chin in first half!!! Hearne was outstanding for shels along with Doyle corner back Connors up front and
Keane carrol caused problems!!! If shels can get a spread of scorers they would cause problems!!!

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 234 - 07/07/2024 11:15:35    2557357

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "He has a great physical frame and has a great work ethic but I think he falls below the level of senior intercounty starter

They're losses alright and the fact that they're two of Ferns's younger hurlers would be even more of a loss as they would both offer pace, especially Diarmuid Doyle. Mind you, out of the Ferns's starting team, only really Tommy Dwyer and Johnny Dwyer could be considered members of the old guard"
Maybe you're right regarding Murphy which is a pity because Wexford are sorely lacking big physical men.

YellowShadeOfPurple (Wexford) - Posts: 22 - 07/07/2024 12:53:10    2557377

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Replying To Yellowhelmet:  "Pure guess work with these predictions.
Given the format of the league, the format of championship and clubs now having their county men back.

Will be at least round 3 before we see where teams are really at.

Oulart v St Anne's. St Anne's by 4.
Naomh eanna v Glynn. Naomh eanna by 6.
Crossabeg v ferns. Ferns by 2.

Shels v harriers. Draw
Cloughbawn v st Martins. Martins by 4.
Oylegate v rapps. Oylegate by 1."
Results went alone expected lines. Margin of wins somewhat concerning in some games.

The winners of first round games will all be in quarter final action later in the year. We will see a gap between top 4 and bottom 2 in each group by the end.

Still think harriers will be in the shake up too.

Yellowhelmet (Australia) - Posts: 112 - 08/07/2024 13:15:31    2557688

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Anyone know why Wexford GAA only streamed on game over the weekend?? Usually there would be 5 or 6? Also they would do clips etc

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 423 - 08/07/2024 13:25:34    2557689

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Replying To Yellowhelmet:  "Results went alone expected lines. Margin of wins somewhat concerning in some games.

The winners of first round games will all be in quarter final action later in the year. We will see a gap between top 4 and bottom 2 in each group by the end.

Still think harriers will be in the shake up too."
1 of the bottom 2 in each group will definitely be in the QFs this year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13322 - 08/07/2024 16:36:54    2557765

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Replying To YellowShadeOfPurple:  "Maybe you're right regarding Murphy which is a pity because Wexford are sorely lacking big physical men."
He's big and physical when he wants to be OK. Seems to depend on his form on the day. Wouldn't say he's fast though. I'd have Bailey in sooner tbh.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13322 - 08/07/2024 16:38:16    2557767

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Replying To Viking66:  "1 of the bottom 2 in each group will definitely be in the QFs this year."
Or possibly the bottom 2 out of the same group.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13322 - 08/07/2024 19:31:25    2557823

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The consensus in our club tonight was at very least the team finishing bottom of the groups have no place being still in the championship, regardless of the format after that.
I also find "it is the Kilkenny model" odd because Kilkenny are not the bar any longer.
Somebody said matches should be 70 minutes and I agree. I never understood why club play 60 and county 70. Make every game the one length.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1251 - 08/07/2024 21:00:37    2557850

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Would you be better coming 5th in ur group and playing 6th in opposite group in preliminary 1/4 final knowing you most likely be playing the team with least form in opposite group . Deoending on if you felt your group would be stronger than the other . Taking the chance of relegation play off if you lost
or finishing 4th and facing 3rd in the other group . Knowing you re out if you lose the preliminary 1/4 final but safe from.relegation .
Say after 2nd or 3rd round this could come into the reckoning when u know yiu can't finish in top 2 possibly and try work out best strategy to progress in the latter stages .
Not going to put any team names up or anything but i m sure there are mid table teams that would nt fear some of the so called lesser teams. And would feel
They would survive any relegation play off. If they happened to fall at preliminary hurdle . Getting 2 chances against possibly weakest teams in other group or weakest team in your own group in final .
Regardless in 1/4 you will play 1 st or 2nd in groups anyway .
Just a thought might only come into play in latter games but it could happen . Especially if u can confidently predict who's going to finish last in opposite group . Rest key players , give lads carrying knocks a rest too .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 261 - 08/07/2024 21:44:25    2557864

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "The consensus in our club tonight was at very least the team finishing bottom of the groups have no place being still in the championship, regardless of the format after that.
I also find "it is the Kilkenny model" odd because Kilkenny are not the bar any longer.
Somebody said matches should be 70 minutes and I agree. I never understood why club play 60 and county 70. Make every game the one length."
That change would have to come from Croke Park. But I agree also, club games should be 70 minutes. Adult is adult.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13322 - 09/07/2024 09:06:37    2557935

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Replying To Viking66:  "That change would have to come from Croke Park. But I agree also, club games should be 70 minutes. Adult is adult."
It's a double edged sword. 70 v 60. With intercounty did going to 70 contribute to the level of training and preparation a player has to do? It's an extra 10mins, which does seem like much but when you say it's an extra ~17%you have to get out of your body for a game then it begins to look different. Younger players may adapt to it but would it push lads who are getting older to give up earlier. It's certainly not needed for the lower grades than senior and they you create a difference within the club competitions. So for me there is a reason why club and county are different, they are not the same game and what may be ok for the 2% may not work so well for the rest.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1859 - 09/07/2024 10:50:13    2557963

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Think 60 min is plenty . In abn already overpacked schedule
Especially in a condensed club season .
Dual players playing between 11 minimum, majority at least 13 and 17 maximum not including any replays or extra time in knockout stages. In such a short period .
What effect would 170 extra minutes have on the bodies equivalent of 3 extra games thrown in .
Where U21s pivotal to.all clubs success
U21s will play at least 4 more games without extra time thrown in
Player welfare lads most have to get up for work in the morning too we are getting carried away with amount of time and games .
Might be ok at senior possibly intermediate but go down through the ranks how many inter a or junior players would be able for it . Would the intensity drop further to allow recovery during games Teans with big numbers and panels may benefit as have stringer benches the gaps will widen .
Plus the extra training to get to the 70min plus Level
I d fear an exodus of some players as well who want to play to a decent level but don't want to train to the level of county teams or can t commit to doing it at that level with other commitments.
60min is plenty we certainly don't need a drop In intensity in our club championship.

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 261 - 09/07/2024 11:29:12    2557980

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Weekend Predictions

St Annes vs Crossabeg - Ballymurn

Glynn Barntown vs Oulart

Oylegate vs Faythe Harriers

Raps vs Cloughbawn

Martins vs Shels

Naomh Eanna vs Ferns

Redzer99 (Waterford) - Posts: 74 - 09/07/2024 13:39:47    2558021

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Think 60 min is plenty . In abn already overpacked schedule
Especially in a condensed club season .
Dual players playing between 11 minimum, majority at least 13 and 17 maximum not including any replays or extra time in knockout stages. In such a short period .
What effect would 170 extra minutes have on the bodies equivalent of 3 extra games thrown in .
Where U21s pivotal to.all clubs success
U21s will play at least 4 more games without extra time thrown in
Player welfare lads most have to get up for work in the morning too we are getting carried away with amount of time and games .
Might be ok at senior possibly intermediate but go down through the ranks how many inter a or junior players would be able for it . Would the intensity drop further to allow recovery during games Teans with big numbers and panels may benefit as have stringer benches the gaps will widen .
Plus the extra training to get to the 70min plus Level
I d fear an exodus of some players as well who want to play to a decent level but don't want to train to the level of county teams or can t commit to doing it at that level with other commitments.
60min is plenty we certainly don't need a drop In intensity in our club championship."
They are all good points lad

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13322 - 09/07/2024 17:23:24    2558084

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Replying To Redzer99:  "Weekend Predictions

St Annes vs Crossabeg - Ballymurn

Glynn Barntown vs Oulart

Oylegate vs Faythe Harriers

Raps vs Cloughbawn

Martins vs Shels

Naomh Eanna vs Ferns"
St Annes vs Crossabeg - Ballymurn Anne's by 5

Glynn Barntown vs Oulart Oulart by 3

Oylegate vs Faythe Harriers Oylegate by 2

Raps vs Cloughbawn Cloughbawn by 1

Martins vs Shels Martins by 1

Naomh Eanna vs Ferns Gorey by 2

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13322 - 09/07/2024 17:24:53    2558085

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Replying To Viking66:  "St Annes vs Crossabeg - Ballymurn Anne's by 5

Glynn Barntown vs Oulart Oulart by 3

Oylegate vs Faythe Harriers Oylegate by 2

Raps vs Cloughbawn Cloughbawn by 1

Martins vs Shels Martins by 1

Naomh Eanna vs Ferns Gorey by 2"
Annes by 4
Glynn by 2
Oylegate by 3
Cloughban by 2
Martins by 2
Gorey by 3

lefty (Wexford) - Posts: 207 - 10/07/2024 10:22:05    2558166

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What the story with Paudie Foley, is he still away?

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1017 - 10/07/2024 12:27:21    2558194

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Replying To hunting:  "What the story with Paudie Foley, is he still away?"
Signed his US waiver on the 23/5 so cant play club until 60 days after that date

Redzer99 (Waterford) - Posts: 74 - 10/07/2024 13:01:58    2558202

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