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Replying To eslinchickenmaryland:  "10,000 people at the semi finals. Just should wind up the competition and go back to the drawing board"
2 good semi finals. It's a decent competition and deserved better attendance.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2824 - 23/06/2024 18:53:39    2554092

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Replying To eslinchickenmaryland:  "10,000 people at the semi finals. Just should wind up the competition and go back to the drawing board"
The semi finals being plated at Croke Park probably needs looked at really.

Jazzyjeff (Derry) - Posts: 210 - 23/06/2024 18:54:56    2554093

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Replying To eslinchickenmaryland:  "10,000 people at the semi finals. Just should wind up the competition and go back to the drawing board"
1. Bring back the qualifiers for all counties missing out on provincial finals, seeded using league ranking.
2. Keep the Tailteann Cup, but in straight knockout format, for the counties knocked out during the qualifiers, with the Tailteann winner qualifying for the following year's All-Ireland 16.
3. Schedule the Tailteann semi-finals for Saturday, allowing the hurling quarter-finals on Sunday.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8287 - 23/06/2024 18:57:47    2554094

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Replying To Jazzyjeff:  "The semi finals being plated at Croke Park probably needs looked at really."
That won't happen again.

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 312 - 23/06/2024 19:04:18    2554098

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "You on the other hand have have said that fans of the teams in the TC don't matter as there won't be that many of them. You've also said as thr semi finals where only last week most of them probably hadn't made any arrangements so moving it shouldn't matter to them. Did you not?
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1414 - 20/06/2024 19:28:29

Despite myself and my better intentions, here I am to answer you again.

First let me suggest that to save us both any further trouble going forward, you this time consider what I actually say, and not what you only think I'm saying.

First - you claim 'fans of teams in the TC don't matter as there won't be that many of them'.

Not true. Again, what I suggested was that a switch in the days would probably have discommoded fewer TC football fans, than not switching the date has discommoded thousands of people in the Wexford hurling community. Not that it wouldn't have affected any, and not that they don't matter. It may have been the lesser of two evils, but even using that statement shows I acknowledge it would still have been an evil for some.

Second - 'probably hadn't made any arrangements so moving it shouldn't have mattered to them'.

Partly true. The fact that the four counties involved had only qualified for the semi-finals last weekend means by definition that none of the teams or supporters had any pre-existing arrangements for Dublin this weekend. A change would of course still have mattered to some, but not as much as if there were hotels booked or train tickets bought with a view to the match being on a different day.

You seem to have a real problem in differentiating between 'not as much' and 'not at all'.

This time, I really am done. Go and have the last word if you want it. Am sure it'll be as wrong as everything else you've posted here since here."
Pikeman, certainly you displayed a lot of patience in that dialogue!

The George Bernard Shaw quote comes to mind: " Never wrestle with a pig because you'll get dirty and besides, the pig likes it".

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1953 - 23/06/2024 19:10:41    2554103

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Replying To legendzxix:  "1. Bring back the qualifiers for all counties missing out on provincial finals, seeded using league ranking.
2. Keep the Tailteann Cup, but in straight knockout format, for the counties knocked out during the qualifiers, with the Tailteann winner qualifying for the following year's All-Ireland 16.
3. Schedule the Tailteann semi-finals for Saturday, allowing the hurling quarter-finals on Sunday."
Whatever happens, after all the fuss from Sligo management only 10,000 turned up for the double header. Not even the Sligo supporters got behind this tournament and the senior hurling quarter finals get demoted for this nonsense. I hope they enjoyed today because that's not going to happen ever again.

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 312 - 23/06/2024 19:12:15    2554104

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Replying To legendzxix:  "1. Bring back the qualifiers for all counties missing out on provincial finals, seeded using league ranking.
2. Keep the Tailteann Cup, but in straight knockout format, for the counties knocked out during the qualifiers, with the Tailteann winner qualifying for the following year's All-Ireland 16.
3. Schedule the Tailteann semi-finals for Saturday, allowing the hurling quarter-finals on Sunday."
So basically the Tommy Murphy Cup again? How did that work out?

eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 23/06/2024 19:26:50    2554110

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It's a second tier competition. What drawing board would you go back to ? Are weaker teams not entitled to a day in Croker. All counties have bought into this come which is the most important statistic. There hasn't been much of a crowd at any Sam Maguire game yet. I would like to see a semi final played as a curtain raiser to maybe an All Ireland semi final. It's a brilliant competition

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1958 - 23/06/2024 19:27:41    2554111

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Replying To legendzxix:  "1. Bring back the qualifiers for all counties missing out on provincial finals, seeded using league ranking.
2. Keep the Tailteann Cup, but in straight knockout format, for the counties knocked out during the qualifiers, with the Tailteann winner qualifying for the following year's All-Ireland 16.
3. Schedule the Tailteann semi-finals for Saturday, allowing the hurling quarter-finals on Sunday."
Thank God you don't do fixtures

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1958 - 23/06/2024 19:29:58    2554113

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Replying To WEXILE:  "Whatever happens, after all the fuss from Sligo management only 10,000 turned up for the double header. Not even the Sligo supporters got behind this tournament and the senior hurling quarter finals get demoted for this nonsense. I hope they enjoyed today because that's not going to happen ever again."
Was still better entertainment for a neutral than yer hammering yesterday.

Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 428 - 23/06/2024 19:36:14    2554117

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Replying To Sligoman1234:  "Was still better entertainment for a neutral than yer hammering yesterday."
I doubt any neutral saw it

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 312 - 23/06/2024 19:57:52    2554125

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Replying To eslinchickenmaryland:  "So basically the Tommy Murphy Cup again? How did that work out?"
The TMC didn't offer a championship reward. The Tailteann winner would be guaranteed an All-Ireland place in the following year.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8287 - 23/06/2024 20:09:29    2554131

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10000 is very poor crowd for 4 teams ,even for 2 teams it's a poor crowd ,can't remember the figure but there was deftly way more at u20 final last year between kildare v sligo ....

Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 304 - 23/06/2024 20:10:22    2554132

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Replying To eslinchickenmaryland:  "10,000 people at the semi finals. Just should wind up the competition and go back to the drawing board"
What's your suggestion then?

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1472 - 23/06/2024 20:10:31    2554133

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Why are so many people from Wexford so unset about the Tailteann Cup?

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1472 - 23/06/2024 20:11:17    2554134

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Replying To eoinog:  "Thank God you don't do fixtures"
See here for how the fixtures would line up:
https://hoganstand.com/Forum/FindPost?MessageID=2553583

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8287 - 23/06/2024 20:11:42    2554135

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Replying To WEXILE:  "Whatever happens, after all the fuss from Sligo management only 10,000 turned up for the double header. Not even the Sligo supporters got behind this tournament and the senior hurling quarter finals get demoted for this nonsense. I hope they enjoyed today because that's not going to happen ever again."
Similar crowd to the Division 3 and 4 finals? The Division 3 and 4 finals are fine as a Saturday double header. The Tailteann semi-finals just needs a similar Saturday double header.
SATURDAY JUNE 22ND 2024 ALTERNATIVE:
Antrim v Laois, Tailteann Cup, RTE
Down v Sligo, Tailteann Cup, RTE
Louth v Cork, All-Ireland Preliminary Quarter-final, GAAGO
Mayo v Derry, All-Ireland Preliminary Quarter-final, GAAGO
SUNDAY JUNE 23RD 2024 ALTERNATIVE:
Dublin v Cork, All-Ireland Hurling Quarter-final, RTE
Clare v Wexford, All-Ireland Hurling Quarter-final, RTE
Galway v Monaghan, All-Ireland Preliminary Quarter-final, GAAGO
Tyrone v Roscommon, All-Ireland Preliminary Quarter-final, GAAGO

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8287 - 23/06/2024 20:20:14    2554139

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Replying To eslinchickenmaryland:  "10,000 people at the semi finals. Just should wind up the competition and go back to the drawing board"
Utter nonsensical post

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1916 - 23/06/2024 20:25:00    2554143

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Replying To WEXILE:  "Whatever happens, after all the fuss from Sligo management only 10,000 turned up for the double header. Not even the Sligo supporters got behind this tournament and the senior hurling quarter finals get demoted for this nonsense. I hope they enjoyed today because that's not going to happen ever again."
The Sligo game was thoroughly enjoyable today and they were very unlucky not to win it. Despite being a man down they were still in the game until the death in extra time. Thery put up a good fight. A far cry from your own hurlers who threw in the towel early. Must be the reason ye are called the yellow belly's.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1036 - 23/06/2024 20:29:53    2554145

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Replying To Sligoman1234:  "Was still better entertainment for a neutral than yer hammering yesterday."
Bad hurling is still always better than good football ;)

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2085 - 23/06/2024 20:34:13    2554147

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