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Replying To Viking66: "The more times we play them the better for our lads before the round robin. Along with Kilkenny they are the best team we can play in competitive, or at this stage semi competitive, games. Galway will surely feel the same. I've been to numerous challenge games and tbh a good As v Bs training game will have more cut to it." I would have taught myself you'd be better served playing different teams, players, gameplans etc than the opposition in quick succession.
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: "I was going to reply him/her, then I couldn't be arsed. My comment was a tongue in cheek remark. But I did find it slightly odd for someone to start quibbling about upcoming fixtures after their county had got to a final.
With regards to Walsh Cup Final and the first NHL game a week later, it will be interesting to see how Egan and Shefflin approach both games. Will there be much difference in the starting 15s in both matches? Or will the result of the first game effect the starting 15 for the second game (probably)?" It's pretty simple Wexford have a pre season game next weekend either way Waterford in a challenge game or Galway in Walsh cup, given that their 1st league game is against Galway and its 7 days later the team might be better served playing different opposition than the same opposition twice at this time of year.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 22/01/2023 19:39:15
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Replying To Magpie2: "Think they might double up the League game and Walsh Cup final as one fixture. According to reports the county board are seeking that. It would make sense really. If the request is refused we would go to croker next week with probably a very weak team. Same for Galway of course and then play each other again the following weekend.
Common sense should prevail." And not to mention the footballers begin what is an important campaign under new management on the same day, and would surely deserve all the publicity and support that would otherwise be lost to an additional game in Croker.
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The county board has send in a letter to the leinster Council to have the league game doubled up as walsh Cup final as well
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "It's pretty simple Wexford have a pre season game next weekend either way Waterford in a challenge game or Galway in Walsh cup, given that their 1st league game is against Galway and its 7 days later the team might be better served playing different opposition than the same opposition twice at this time of year." Do you seriously think Wexford are going to forgo a Wash Cup Final for a challenge match? And why did Wexford arrange a challenge match for the weekend of Walsh Cup Final, a game they had a fair chance of qualifying for? Unless, they have an understanding with Waterford that their game would be cancelled.
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Do you seriously think Wexford are going to forgo a Wash Cup Final for a challenge match? And why did Wexford arrange a challenge match for the weekend of Walsh Cup Final, a game they had a fair chance of qualifying for? Unless, they have an understanding with Waterford that their game would be cancelled." Wexford county board have contacted Leinster Council requesting that the league game double up as the Walsh Cup final so that's clearly the preference from the Wexford management point of view.
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Do you seriously think Wexford are going to forgo a Wash Cup Final for a challenge match? And why did Wexford arrange a challenge match for the weekend of Walsh Cup Final, a game they had a fair chance of qualifying for? Unless, they have an understanding with Waterford that their game would be cancelled." Also I was at last years Walsh Cup final in Croke Park and it at best had the intensity of a challenge match, there would less than 5 thousand in croker for the duration as Dublin and Kildare supporters would probably only arrive for their game.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 22/01/2023 20:13:29
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Don't know why it needs to be in Croke Park in any case. The pitch looked fairly cut up today for the two AI finals, it's a waste playing such an insignficant game in what will be a vacuum atmosphere-wise.
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1494 - 22/01/2023 20:35:08
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "County board have requested that the league game doubles up as Walsh Final, depends now if Galway agree, heard on south radio in the last hour." It would make sense in a way to double them up. But in another a competitive game against Galway would be more useful. A challenge game against Waterford is pretty pointless. Noone is going to reveal significant tactics in a challenge game.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15785 - 22/01/2023 20:47:59
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Replying To beano: "Don't know why it needs to be in Croke Park in any case. The pitch looked fairly cut up today for the two AI finals, it's a waste playing such an insignficant game in what will be a vacuum atmosphere-wise." Agreed. The game would be better in Nowlan Patk or Portlaoise
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15785 - 22/01/2023 20:49:57
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Replying To Magpie2: "Think they might double up the League game and Walsh Cup final as one fixture. According to reports the county board are seeking that. It would make sense really. If the request is refused we would go to croker next week with probably a very weak team. Same for Galway of course and then play each other again the following weekend.
Common sense should prevail." I get the reasoning but it's a pity the younger players will miss out on the chance to play in Croke Park
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Replying To beano: "Don't know why it needs to be in Croke Park in any case. The pitch looked fairly cut up today for the two AI finals, it's a waste playing such an insignficant game in what will be a vacuum atmosphere-wise." I agree but I suspect they if at all possible GAA want curtain raisers to Dublin games in Croke Park.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 22/01/2023 21:02:46
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Replying To goreyll: "I get the reasoning but it's a pity the younger players will miss out on the chance to play in Croke Park" That's true too. Was thinking with my wallet yesterday when I suggested Nowlan Park!!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15785 - 23/01/2023 08:15:31
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Entertaining evening all in all.
Lawlor will benefit from the exposure and will settle into the role
Devitt was very solid and must be close to nailing down the corner back position has had a great few games
Ryan other than the lapse in concentration at the end was his usual reliable self
Shane Reck will be a great option for corner back as a solid man marker and to burst out, will be a great addition having him fit and available
Carty settled into it and has improved each game - interesting to see what his role is as the year progresses
Damian Reck is a topper, pure all rounder
Donoghue looked off the pace to me and not his usual self, may take some adjusting if the corner backs look to be finalised for now
O Keefe had patches of brilliance and looks to be getting back going
Lawlor was excellent overall and looks a good find for the year
McGuckin does a lot of work, if he can cut out the few moments of loose play he has done himself no harm for a role for the year
Chin will be good and wouldnt worry about him
Hearne might need to do more to be seen as a serious option as there may only be room for one of him and McGuckin
Pepper was very lively considering he hasn't been involved much, worked incredibly hard in the full forward line - others could mirror it
McDonald got some great scores but there has to be more in him overall for a 70 minute game
Dwyer I don't see what some people saw in his game, similar to Hearne I think he needs to add something to be a contender other than impact sub.
Overall a positive Walsh cup - it will be interesting to see every aspect in the coming weeks: the final panel, goalkeeper selection, the half back positions who fills them, the midfield partnership and what the make up of the 6 forwards and in what form.
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Replying To Viking66: "Agreed. The game would be better in Nowlan Patk or Portlaoise" Here's another good reason not to play the game a Croke Park.
'Like trying to rise the ball on tarmac' Ballyhale Shamrocks manager Pat Hoban criticises Croke Park pitch.
[url=]https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/like-trying-to-rise-the-ball-on-tarmac-ballyhale-shamrocks-manager-pat-hoban-criticises-croke-park-pitch-42306311.html
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/like-trying-to-rise-the-ball-on-tarmac-ballyhale-shamrocks-manager-pat-hoban-criticises-croke-park-pitch-42306311.html
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Enjoyed Saturday night in the park. Very well organised and great to see so many kids. Hopefully we get similar big crowds for the games in the park.
Overall happy with the Walsh cup campaign. We must have tried nearly 30 players?
Think Lawlor is close to nailing down the no 1 position
The full back line were solid and I could see that being the championship full back line if they maintain their form.
Thought Ian Carty grew into the game after a slow start. Reck was outstanding and Donohoe did okay. Expect when Hanlon comes back he will be competing with Carty and Donohoe for wing back position.
Thought Dee looked fresh and full of energy while Richie Lawlor was excellent. Is he a potential starter come April?
Mcguckin's workrate impressed me in the forwards while I think Mac looks slimmer and was a danger throughout.
Pepper also looks to have added a bit of muscle and scored 2 fine points.
Was Lee Chin injured or was it decided before the game that he would just play one half I wonder?
Of the subs I was really impressed with both Corey Byrne Dunbar and Conor Foley.
With likes of Oisin Foley, Moggy, Hanlon , Jacko and Rory O Connor to come back I think we are really building competition for places.
On the Walsh Cup final I dont see the benefit of playing Galway 2 weeks in a row especially since we have a crucial championship opener against them in Salthill only 3 months away
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I would much prefer to kill two birds with one stone and play the Walsh cup and League opener at the same time in Wexford park. It makes more sense and I think Galway will agree
But if Galway want a neutral venue I would refuse as it is not worth giving up home advantage for a league game - I would rather play the extra match. Big revenue would be lost for Wexford Park and Wexford town but more importantly we need every advantage to get points in the league as we have all tough games with most of them away from home.
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Replying To Afinestick: "Enjoyed Saturday night in the park. Very well organised and great to see so many kids. Hopefully we get similar big crowds for the games in the park.
Overall happy with the Walsh cup campaign. We must have tried nearly 30 players?
Think Lawlor is close to nailing down the no 1 position
The full back line were solid and I could see that being the championship full back line if they maintain their form.
Thought Ian Carty grew into the game after a slow start. Reck was outstanding and Donohoe did okay. Expect when Hanlon comes back he will be competing with Carty and Donohoe for wing back position.
Thought Dee looked fresh and full of energy while Richie Lawlor was excellent. Is he a potential starter come April?
Mcguckin's workrate impressed me in the forwards while I think Mac looks slimmer and was a danger throughout.
Pepper also looks to have added a bit of muscle and scored 2 fine points.
Was Lee Chin injured or was it decided before the game that he would just play one half I wonder?
Of the subs I was really impressed with both Corey Byrne Dunbar and Conor Foley.
With likes of Oisin Foley, Moggy, Hanlon , Jacko and Rory O Connor to come back I think we are really building competition for places.
On the Walsh Cup final I dont see the benefit of playing Galway 2 weeks in a row especially since we have a crucial championship opener against them in Salthill only 3 months away" With Donohoe, Pepper and Kevin Foley making there 1st appearance of the year on Saturday I make it 34 players used so far this year, with O'Hanlon, McGovern, Oisin Foley, Rory & Joe O'Connor all hopefully in the mix too. Anyone know if Connal Flood is involved this year? Heard very little mentioned of him, pity if he wasn't as he's plenty of talent.
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Replying To Yellow: "I would much prefer to kill two birds with one stone and play the Walsh cup and League opener at the same time in Wexford park. It makes more sense and I think Galway will agree
But if Galway want a neutral venue I would refuse as it is not worth giving up home advantage for a league game - I would rather play the extra match. Big revenue would be lost for Wexford Park and Wexford town but more importantly we need every advantage to get points in the league as we have all tough games with most of them away from home." I'd imagine the league game will take place in Wexford Park on Feb 4th regardless of the outcome regarding the Walsh Cup situation, the die hard Galway supporters who would travel probably already have accommodation arranged for example so would be a kick in teeth for them if the match didn't go ahead as planned, anyway you'd only see teams lose home advantage for a league for something like breaking a training ban during the off season.
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "With Donohoe, Pepper and Kevin Foley making there 1st appearance of the year on Saturday I make it 34 players used so far this year, with O'Hanlon, McGovern, Oisin Foley, Rory & Joe O'Connor all hopefully in the mix too. Anyone know if Connal Flood is involved this year? Heard very little mentioned of him, pity if he wasn't as he's plenty of talent." Spratt revealed on the radio durung the match that Flood is recuperating from pneumonia. A tough break to get.
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