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Wexford Intercounty Hurling 2023

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Replying To Viking66:  "https://scoreline.ie/as-you-were-no-changes-for-kilkenny-team-to-face-wexford-in-last-of-leinster-senior-hurling-championship-group-games/

Strong Cats team named! Can't wait til Sunday!"
Wouldn't go by that team viking from what I hear but we will see sunday.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 340 - 26/05/2023 21:10:56    2481824

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "There's also regular sessions of different types on offer in Wexford Park, usually on midweek evenings, where clubs go to them rather than they going to clubs. Suppose that way they hit several clubs in just one evening, instead of it taking several evenings to do the same if it was the other way round.

Not in any way claiming that the system is perfect, but just pointing out that there are lots of "train the trainer" type of sessions available to those who want to them."
That's not really what I meant at all Pikeman. What I was talking about were proper good county board appointed coaches going in to do an hour with the u12, u14, u16 and minor coaches and players at each club maybe twice a year. And all the secondary schools. In football and hurling. Aside from imparting knowledge to kids in front of their own managers and mentors, or teachers in schools, so that they can learn something, they can watch how the sessions develop and give advice on possible improvements. And most importantly they might spot good young players who might slip through the net.
You are talking maybe 4 or 6 lads, preferably from different areas of the county to keep travelling costs down, working 4 evenings a week in their district clubs and 1 afternoon/evening a week in the secondary schools in their areas. And not to play catch, rounders but do hurling training. From April to September in the clubs, and April , May and September in the Secondary schools. Maybe 15 hours a week including travelling. 6 lads getting €300 a week would cost approximately 46k a year. 4 assigned to the 4 districts and 2 to cover any of the 4 when they are away on holidays etc and cover clubs in 2 districts when none of the 4 are on holiday. Every underage team at every club and school should get 2 or 3 sessions with one of these lads.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15713 - 26/05/2023 21:38:16    2481827

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Have a feeling Wexford will win this.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 26/05/2023 23:34:17    2481834

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Replying To WildPundit:  "Have a feeling Wexford will win this."
I am not confident, but many many times in my life we've pulled it out of the bag with zero expectations.

Kilkenny 96
Limerick and tipp 01
Waterford and Cork 03
Kilkenny 04
Galway and tipp 07
Dublin and Clare 13
Clare and Waterford 14
Kilkenny 17
Most of 19
Kilkenny 22

For flood, rackard, wheeler, Doran, buggy, Jacob, dunne, storey, fitzy.

I thought this fading generation could win the biggest prize, now they have a much more important job which is salvaging who we are as a people.

Please god the spirit of 98 is in the park tomorrow. If we show them who we truly are, Kilkenny have no chance. Anything else and we're doomed.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3580 - 27/05/2023 10:01:51    2481863

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Replying To Tiger1:  "No happy ending just because we beat kk we will still be gone from the championship since 21st May .."
Yes tiger We 7are gone from the championship so all we can grab at now is survival in the top tier.There is no doubt that the future of Wexford hurling will be analysed to death by all of us here and by the media in general. For now though it's all about what happens on Sunday.
One big push needed--- let's go for it lads.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 453 - 27/05/2023 10:17:58    2481867

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Replying To Viking66:  "That's not really what I meant at all Pikeman. What I was talking about were proper good county board appointed coaches going in to do an hour with the u12, u14, u16 and minor coaches and players at each club maybe twice a year. And all the secondary schools. In football and hurling. Aside from imparting knowledge to kids in front of their own managers and mentors, or teachers in schools, so that they can learn something, they can watch how the sessions develop and give advice on possible improvements. And most importantly they might spot good young players who might slip through the net.
You are talking maybe 4 or 6 lads, preferably from different areas of the county to keep travelling costs down, working 4 evenings a week in their district clubs and 1 afternoon/evening a week in the secondary schools in their areas. And not to play catch, rounders but do hurling training. From April to September in the clubs, and April , May and September in the Secondary schools. Maybe 15 hours a week including travelling. 6 lads getting €300 a week would cost approximately 46k a year. 4 assigned to the 4 districts and 2 to cover any of the 4 when they are away on holidays etc and cover clubs in 2 districts when none of the 4 are on holiday. Every underage team at every club and school should get 2 or 3 sessions with one of these lads."
There was a last paragraph to this that read the same should be in place for football. Cost around 90k for both.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15713 - 27/05/2023 10:22:45    2481868

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Replying To WildPundit:  "Have a feeling Wexford will win this."
Hope you are right.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15713 - 27/05/2023 10:23:25    2481870

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Replying To Canuck:  "Wexford will rise to the occasion as they nearly always do for this contest. Their faithful followers and indeed the supporters on here deserve that."
Thank you.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 788 - 27/05/2023 11:37:03    2481880

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From what I've heard, Egan supposedly lost the dressing room after the game against Limerick. To be fair, it all makes sense now, would go a long way to explaining how lifeless Wexford have been all year

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 491 - 27/05/2023 12:29:08    2481890

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Replying To Canuck:  "Wexford will rise to the occasion as they nearly always do for this contest. Their faithful followers and indeed the supporters on here deserve that."
What about the faithful followers of Antrim, Dublin and Westmeath, don't they deserve anything?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2767 - 27/05/2023 12:43:05    2481895

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "What about the faithful followers of Antrim, Dublin and Westmeath, don't they deserve anything?"
Yes they do and I think you will see I support and follow all these counties.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3039 - 27/05/2023 14:23:36    2481914

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "From what I've heard, Egan supposedly lost the dressing room after the game against Limerick. To be fair, it all makes sense now, would go a long way to explaining how lifeless Wexford have been all year"
The reason we are in the position we are is down to the players and their no show for the second half last week

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 548 - 27/05/2023 14:29:13    2481921

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "The reason we are in the position we are is down to the players and their no show for the second half last week"
Exactly, that 2nd half last week was the biggest dereliction of duties I've ever seen on a sporting field, if there's anything in them they'll come out fighting tomorrow.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 27/05/2023 15:31:06    2481933

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "From what I've heard, Egan supposedly lost the dressing room after the game against Limerick. To be fair, it all makes sense now, would go a long way to explaining how lifeless Wexford have been all year"
Load of rubbish always hear stories like this when a team goes bad training during the week or row in the camp .All excuses for mot delivering in my view .Good teams don't make excuses they make history.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 340 - 27/05/2023 15:40:58    2481935

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Replying To Tiger1:  "Load of rubbish always hear stories like this when a team goes bad training during the week or row in the camp .All excuses for mot delivering in my view .Good teams don't make excuses they make history."
Spot on. Wexford haven't been good enough this year and it's all part of a long time decline based on virtually no success at All Ireland level at any grade. As a Wexford supporter I want nothing more than a win tomorrow but beating Kilkenny is just papering over the cracks. Sad day if we get relegated but might the massive kick up the arse the whole hurling set up in the county needs.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 237 - 27/05/2023 16:18:59    2481941

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Replying To Jedobi:  "Spot on. Wexford haven't been good enough this year and it's all part of a long time decline based on virtually no success at All Ireland level at any grade. As a Wexford supporter I want nothing more than a win tomorrow but beating Kilkenny is just papering over the cracks. Sad day if we get relegated but might the massive kick up the arse the whole hurling set up in the county needs."
If you think it is better for Wexford to go down then you have never experienced relegation or how awfully difficult it can be to get up from a lower level. It is horrible and a horrible vibe going back training the year after.
At a time when some good minors and u20 hurlers could be coming through in Wexford it would be the worst time imaginable for them to be relegated.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1337 - 27/05/2023 17:21:35    2481955

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "If you think it is better for Wexford to go down then you have never experienced relegation or how awfully difficult it can be to get up from a lower level. It is horrible and a horrible vibe going back training the year after.
At a time when some good minors and u20 hurlers could be coming through in Wexford it would be the worst time imaginable for them to be relegated."
I never said I want Wexford relegated. Read my post. I want a Wexford win tomorrow massively but whatever happens something dramatic needs to change with Wexford's hurling structure, otherwise it it's just delaying the inevitable.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 237 - 27/05/2023 20:53:49    2482016

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Today is the 225th anniversary of the Battle of Oulart Hill.

Let's hope that the 15 Wexford men tomorrow have the same fight and determination.

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 505 - 27/05/2023 21:09:46    2482018

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Famous last words but I think some people are over-exaggerating how bad our hurling structures are. Could they be better? Yes. Are they bad? Probably not.

It's always interesting to hear an outside voice and Michael Verney was saying on Newstalk today (And said on OurGame during the week) that when Offaly got relegated, they were after receiving a lot of hidings in the few years before and that they were on the slide big time; he then said Wexford may be marginally on the slide but you can't really compare them to Offaly.

I think we've made 8 out of the last 11 Leinster Finals at U20/U21 level. Now we've only won three and haven't gone on to win an All-Ireland but over that same timeframe, Kilkenny have made 5 Leinster finals, Dublin have made 4 Leinster Finals, Galway have made 3 Leinster Finals, and Offaly have made 2 Leinster Finals. Across that same timeframe, Carlow have made 2 Leinster Semi-Finals and I don't think Antrim have even made a Leinster SF at U20 level (And of course, the one time they made it to the U21 All-Ireland Final was when they beat us, that's very on-brand for Wexford).

If our underage structures are so bad, then why are we making more U20 Leinster finals than Kilkenny and Dublin (Galway have made 3 out of 6 Leinster Finals which is a worse record than us)? Are we just lucky at that level?

Again, this is not excusing how badly the Seniors have played this year but whilst the underage structures could do with some improvement (Only won 3 out of our last 10 U20/U21 Leinster Finals), the underage results are hardly sufficiently bad that we should radically overhaul our underage hurling structures.

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 491 - 27/05/2023 22:31:47    2482044

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Replying To WEX98:  "Today is the 225th anniversary of the Battle of Oulart Hill.

Let's hope that the 15 Wexford men tomorrow have the same fight and determination."
Extremely nervous about tomorrow . The consequences of losing could be huge for the county. I hope the lads go out and give it absolutely everything . Us Wexford supporters need to back then very step of the way

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 27/05/2023 22:33:04    2482045

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