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Replying To Ryanteam:  "America is the only developed country which doesn't have an organized national healthcare system. Obamacare has partially addressed that. I remember attending many fundraising events in NYC in the 1980's, to cover people injured with no health insurance. Do we want to regress to that? Trump has planned to layoff 50% of Social Security workers, and if Americans see cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and social security, I don't see longevity for Donnie in the White House!"
I'm only asking why he was elected. Not about Trump or his character or lack of it. I lived in New Mexico in 2011 and 2012 and some of my old colleagues are paying ridiculous money for healthcare. We have issues with tiered health care system here but it seems a much fairer system in comparison to the U.S.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7815 - 04/03/2025 19:06:47    2594767

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "Trump has been quoted as saying "I love the uneducated " . Also when he decided to run for political office, he decided to run as a Republican because in his own words " I'll run as a Republican, my numbers will be great as those idiots believe everything on Fox News" ! He was right!"
Exactly. They're uneducated. But just because they don't have a high standard of education doesn't mean they are stupid people. Trump capitalised on their lack of education and naiviety, used the power of television and internet, to sway their opinion and got them to vote for Trump. Arguably the educated left were complacent and stupid by not running better candidates and highlight their own policies, rather than react to most of Trump's abtics and give him even more publicity. They're still in denial that they lost two elections. If they don't learn from their mistakes the Republicans will win the next election after Trump's term in office. 4 years in office but you just need to convince voters for one election day.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7815 - 04/03/2025 19:45:19    2594780

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "Well we'll see very shortly how much of Oligarchs wealth trickle down to the American public. It's more likely they will be hit by higher prices as a result of Trump's tariffs. If Quebec follow through with it's threat to cutoff electricity to NYC , poor Donny will have a tough time negotiating stairs in his Trump tower. Finally his military, cops and firemen who are staunch MAGA voters, must feel a little betrayed when Trump pardoned the insurrectionists who attacked and injured their own at the Capitol in 2021. Stop the steal? What a joke!"
I'm afraid that horse has bolted. Mr T and his inner council have persuaded their following that those riots either never happened, or weren't nearly as bad as the Dems made out. Don't for get he has flat earthers in his entourage - and don't forget the congress lady who claimed the Dems were manipulating the storms to wreak more havoc on red states. People actually believe this b

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1468 - 04/03/2025 20:08:15    2594782

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Trump is just a symptom of a lot of things which have gone wrong in the states over the last decade and more.
There's a lot of back and forth on here about his ills or otherwise, but a serious question to be asked is how did it get to the point that so many people were willing to vote for him, for the reason that he was not the Democrat alternative.
Ordinary politics in the US has failed badly, to allow things get to this point. The Democrats in particular lost the run of themselves. Many people felt marginalised and gradually came to the point where they felt something more radical was needed. A culture of shouting people down or ostracizing people had become prevalent. There doesn't seem to be a greater good anymore, but a real us versus them, no matter what the issue.
The fact that the current president is liable to say or do anything and it hardly surprises anyone, is the perfect representation of this.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2248 - 04/03/2025 20:27:10    2594784

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Replying To Freethinker:  "I'm presuming it was because they think he is the way forward. And he possibly is. I'm not too sure that his slash and burn attitude will put him where he wants to be with the economy etc but it will be a year or two before the fruits or otherwise of that will start to show. Also, I would imagine that the electorate werent overly enamoured with the alternative. As long as our economy isn't overly impacted by these proposed tariffs, and Putin doesn't become emboldened and start chipping away at more of Europe, all should be fine, from our perspective."
Time will tell on tariffs effect on Ireland. The Pfizer CEO has said that he may try avoid 25% tariffs on pharmaceuticals by moving manufacturing back to USA. That would impact manufacturing in Cork and Newbridge. Pfizer is particularly vulnerable at the moment, with looming patent expirations and declining revenue.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 470 - 04/03/2025 20:38:13    2594786

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Trumps America reminds me of the first few verses of the green day song, "American Idiot"

Don't wanna be an American idiot
Don't want a nation under the new media
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mindf&@k America
Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alien nation
Where everything isn't meant to be okay
In television dreams of tomorrow
We're not the ones who're meant to follow
For that's enough to argue
Well, maybe I'm the fagg@t, America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
Now everybody, do the propaganda
And sing along to the age of paranoia

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11477 - 04/03/2025 21:04:12    2594792

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The next move will be Trump doing a 180 on tariffs then claiming he forced the countries to negotiate a better deal that suited America.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8295 - 04/03/2025 22:33:36    2594807

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Trumps America reminds me of the first few verses of the green day song, "American Idiot"

Don't wanna be an American idiot
Don't want a nation under the new media
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mindf&@k America
Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alien nation
Where everything isn't meant to be okay
In television dreams of tomorrow
We're not the ones who're meant to follow
For that's enough to argue
Well, maybe I'm the fagg@t, America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
Now everybody, do the propaganda
And sing along to the age of paranoia"
Trumps America reminds me of WINNING!!!

Trump's economic policies have triggered a massive wave of investment into the U.S. In just six weeks, over $1.7 trillion in private sector investments have been announced. Major deals include:
$600 billion from Saudi Arabia.
$500 billion from Apple, leading to 20,000 new U.S. jobs.
$100 billion from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp (TSMC) for chip plants.
$40 billion in new U.S. data center projects.
$20 billion in foreign investment for American manufacturing.

Trump's tariffs are already reshaping global supply chains. Nissan, Honda, and Mercedes-Benz are moving production from Mexico to the U.S. to avoid Trump's 25 percent tariff on vehicle imports. Steel and aluminum tariffs have returned, protecting over one million American jobs from foreign dumping.Stock markets have soared, reaching record highs, while JP Morgan reported its highest-ever annual profit. The administration has also replaced the EB-5 visa program with a new "Gold Card," allowing vetted immigrants to obtain a U.S. green card in exchange for a $5 million investment into the federal budget.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2384 - 04/03/2025 23:00:25    2594813

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Trump is just a symptom of a lot of things which have gone wrong in the states over the last decade and more.
There's a lot of back and forth on here about his ills or otherwise, but a serious question to be asked is how did it get to the point that so many people were willing to vote for him, for the reason that he was not the Democrat alternative.
Ordinary politics in the US has failed badly, to allow things get to this point. The Democrats in particular lost the run of themselves. Many people felt marginalised and gradually came to the point where they felt something more radical was needed. A culture of shouting people down or ostracizing people had become prevalent. There doesn't seem to be a greater good anymore, but a real us versus them, no matter what the issue.
The fact that the current president is liable to say or do anything and it hardly surprises anyone, is the perfect representation of this."
Very well said.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1468 - 04/03/2025 23:04:59    2594815

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "The next move will be Trump doing a 180 on tariffs then claiming he forced the countries to negotiate a better deal that suited America."
Well, you're a prophet. Because the stock market plummeted the last few days, Howard Lutnick, the commerce secretary announced reduced tariffs with Mexico and Canada. Trump follows stock market on a daily basis, and obviously will adjust his tariffs accordingly.He played the same game during his last presidency.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 470 - 05/03/2025 00:47:17    2594820

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Trumps America reminds me of WINNING!!!

Trump's economic policies have triggered a massive wave of investment into the U.S. In just six weeks, over $1.7 trillion in private sector investments have been announced. Major deals include:
$600 billion from Saudi Arabia.
$500 billion from Apple, leading to 20,000 new U.S. jobs.
$100 billion from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp (TSMC) for chip plants.
$40 billion in new U.S. data center projects.
$20 billion in foreign investment for American manufacturing.

Trump's tariffs are already reshaping global supply chains. Nissan, Honda, and Mercedes-Benz are moving production from Mexico to the U.S. to avoid Trump's 25 percent tariff on vehicle imports. Steel and aluminum tariffs have returned, protecting over one million American jobs from foreign dumping.Stock markets have soared, reaching record highs, while JP Morgan reported its highest-ever annual profit. The administration has also replaced the EB-5 visa program with a new "Gold Card," allowing vetted immigrants to obtain a U.S. green card in exchange for a $5 million investment into the federal budget."
Apple, TSMC investment and US data centre projects are very interlinked with a predicted growth in AI technology, software and hardware, and their bet on it's success. Could well turn out to be even bigger investment if it really takes off, but the investment didn't start when Trump was elected. Hopefully there can be a curb on home users use of AI tech. When you see 'reputable' sites like LinkedIn advising recruitment agencies on the benefits of AI sorting and telling jobseekers not to compile their own CV because AI will do it better job, you'd question how many jobs will be left for real people with a mind of their own.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7815 - 05/03/2025 02:42:42    2594822

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Trumps America reminds me of WINNING!!!

Trump's economic policies have triggered a massive wave of investment into the U.S. In just six weeks, over $1.7 trillion in private sector investments have been announced. Major deals include:
$600 billion from Saudi Arabia.
$500 billion from Apple, leading to 20,000 new U.S. jobs.
$100 billion from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp (TSMC) for chip plants.
$40 billion in new U.S. data center projects.
$20 billion in foreign investment for American manufacturing.

Trump's tariffs are already reshaping global supply chains. Nissan, Honda, and Mercedes-Benz are moving production from Mexico to the U.S. to avoid Trump's 25 percent tariff on vehicle imports. Steel and aluminum tariffs have returned, protecting over one million American jobs from foreign dumping.Stock markets have soared, reaching record highs, while JP Morgan reported its highest-ever annual profit. The administration has also replaced the EB-5 visa program with a new "Gold Card," allowing vetted immigrants to obtain a U.S. green card in exchange for a $5 million investment into the federal budget."
What a crazy post. Steel and aluminum tariffs will raise prices on manufacturing across the board. Stock markets soared under Biden, and are flat since Trump's presidency as the initial Trump bump has been replaced by Trump slump. No doubt, Trump will tweak his tariffs to calm markets. Car manufacturing coming back to USA is predicted to raise price of average car by 4K. Tesla stock soared after election but now has slumped to pre election levels, and is being targeted by Canadian tariffs as well as facing slumping sales in Europe. Pharmaceutical tariffs of 25% on incoming drugs, which are coming in April, will be passed onto the customer.Trump's golden visa is aimed at attracting Russian oligarchs.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 470 - 05/03/2025 09:01:01    2594828

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "What a crazy post. Steel and aluminum tariffs will raise prices on manufacturing across the board. Stock markets soared under Biden, and are flat since Trump's presidency as the initial Trump bump has been replaced by Trump slump. No doubt, Trump will tweak his tariffs to calm markets. Car manufacturing coming back to USA is predicted to raise price of average car by 4K. Tesla stock soared after election but now has slumped to pre election levels, and is being targeted by Canadian tariffs as well as facing slumping sales in Europe. Pharmaceutical tariffs of 25% on incoming drugs, which are coming in April, will be passed onto the customer.Trump's golden visa is aimed at attracting Russian oligarchs."
Stock Markets soared under Biden?!? Yes at the END of his Presidency when he was a lame duck. Markets are FORWARD LOOKING and they are DOWN now due to Trump and his tariffs. The Markets don't like uncertainty. So while I agree with Trumps Tariffs I also acknowledge that they will play hell on the Markets til they settle out. Fixing a left wing mess is never painless.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2384 - 05/03/2025 11:07:43    2594848

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Our Galway Trump fan boy is deluded. Look at his speech last night to Congress. Again bullying Greenland saying we are going to get it one way or another.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11477 - 05/03/2025 11:58:14    2594857

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Our Galway Trump fan boy is deluded. Look at his speech last night to Congress. Again bullying Greenland saying we are going to get it one way or another."
On the other hand, he has Zelensky signing a mineral deal, saying he wants to work towards a deal for peace UNDER Trump's LEADERSHIP. Some 'nasty' straight talking there about 'not having the cards' has proved to be an accurate assessment in just about 4 days.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3994 - 05/03/2025 12:26:51    2594861

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We know absolutely nothing about the thoughts and plans of the leaders of the worlds superpowers except what they drip feed us with bits and pieces of what they want us to know.
Job and fiscal security is what keeps us meer mortals on edge.
Trump, Pugin etc are on a Misson that's all we know, when it really clicks in, it's then we'll know for sure.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3126 - 05/03/2025 12:45:30    2594862

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "On the other hand, he has Zelensky signing a mineral deal, saying he wants to work towards a deal for peace UNDER Trump's LEADERSHIP. Some 'nasty' straight talking there about 'not having the cards' has proved to be an accurate assessment in just about 4 days."
Zelensky had agreed to the mineral deal before the other day. What's your point?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8295 - 05/03/2025 12:51:25    2594864

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Our Galway Trump fan boy is deluded. Look at his speech last night to Congress. Again bullying Greenland saying we are going to get it one way or another."
I really think Lake Ontario should be renamed Lake Buffalo after Canada refused Trump's offer of annexation!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 470 - 05/03/2025 12:55:30    2594867

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The Americans have a centuries old procedure for changing presidents mid term.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15047 - 05/03/2025 13:23:44    2594869

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Zelensky had agreed to the mineral deal before the other day. What's your point?"
My point is that Trump leveraged a rapid response by pulling war support. Zelensky now wants to work for peace UNDER Trump's LEADERSHIP.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3994 - 05/03/2025 13:54:05    2594883

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