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Armagh Vs Galway

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Replying To togoutlads:  "We were up there yesterday and enough has been said about the melee already - what we all witnessed up there yesterday was one of the greatest games ever played. Kerry and Mayo people around us said the same. Yes, it was far from perfect, with Galway mistakes galore in the last minutes but for sheer excitement and a 100 minute end to end battle, it was breathless stuff and there's nothing could ever galvanise a team like that game did. Galway men became warriors on the field for us yesterday. Armagh's strength of support is an absolute credit to them - it made for an electric atmosphere. Hoping Galway can bring this match intensity again and be ready for Derry. Tickets on sale from 12 today lads - some of our long standing tv and radio supporters need to get their backsides off the couch. These boys are the real deal and the support is building. Gaillimh Abú."
Spot on. Before the ball was thrown in I didnt think Galway had the men to stand up to Armagh physically but not alone had they that, they had proper footballers all over the pitch. Serious entertainment from start to finish any anyone who missed it should watch it! A game full of good scores from play and the best team undoubtedly won and were the best team on show over the weekend too. Easily the most enjoybale game in any sport this year.
More games like that please!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/06/2022 10:39:39    2427895

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GAA needs a 4th official for big matches on touchline to keep an eye on things. Also it needs markings to keep officials inside, like soccer, technical areas.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 27/06/2022 10:45:36    2427897

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Replying To baire:  "How could Shane Walsh or Damien Comer be as good when they were not given any protection off the ball. If you were at the game you'd see it but sure the linesmen and umpires, per usual, see nothing!"
That pass at the end me of normal time when we were a point up and trying to see out the game had very little to do with the ref or umpires

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 361 - 27/06/2022 10:46:04    2427898

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""Armagh will have to reconsider this fly-goalie nonsense. Made no appreciable difference during the game but made all the difference when it came to saving penalties and they had an out-fielder in goals"

'Saving penalties' had nothing to do with the game's outcome. Armagh lost the game because two out of three of their penalty takers failed to hit the target."
They wouldnt have levelled that game without him as he was the one who took the bull by the borns late on so for that he did make an appreciable difference! The Galway keeper didnt save pen either in the shoot out and I cant see too many keepers saving any of those Galway pens. I thought Rafferty was vital espeically when Armagh went to 14...it maybe a slight bizarre tactic but it felt like they still had the same amount of outfield players on the pitch after the sending off.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/06/2022 10:46:48    2427900

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Sat around a lot of great supporters from Armagh yesterday, extremely gracious in defeat despite the circumstance. All the best.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1568 - 27/06/2022 10:46:57    2427901

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A cracking game of football yesterday. Best I've seen in a long time. Just some observations, some of which have already been mentioned by other posters...

- Galway were the better team once they recovered from their ponderous start. In my opinion, four or five points the better team. Galway will need to learn to be a bit cuter closing out games. It was a shocking decision from an otherwise intelligent player like Shane Walsh near the end of normal time. He literally had the corner flag straight in front of him to run into but inexplicably attempted a long cross field pass. You wouldn't in a million years have seen PJ attempt something similar in his own playing days.

- However, paradoxically Walsh's brainfart could benefit Galway in the long run. If they had beaten Armagh by 6 or 7 points everyone would have been patting them on the back on a job well done and possibly would have them as clear favourites to beat Derry - a dangerous situation to be in. As it was, they were forced to dig extremely deep to force penalties and the resolve they had to show should bring them on a ton. Defending the high ball into the square properly is another obvious area to work on ahead of the semi final.

- Armagh gave it a great shot and played on the edge as is their custom. Penalties was a cruel way to lose and bow out but it is what it is. They have come on an awful lot this year and will be a major threat in Ulster and beyond in 2023. Their indiscipline has to be called out again though. There was a lot of off-the-ball stuff, the usual sledging and yet another melee. It seems like they are slow to learn, but then again why would they bother to learn anything when any punishment issued to them to date has been laughably overturned?

- The GAA needs to accept some of the blame here. Their disciplinary process is so full of holes it's like a Swiss cheese. Any barrister worth his/her salt can usually quickly and easily get bans overturned due to technicalities. It's the Irish way to defy authority so Armagh are hardly on their own in that regard. Either Armagh GAA hold their hands up and accept what's coming to them or the GAA get their sh!t together and had down fines/bans that are bulletproof in terms of appeal.

The only way teams will learn is the hard way. Proper bans and fines that stick is the only appropriate measure here.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9115 - 27/06/2022 11:13:17    2427917

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Replying To galwayford:  "GAA needs a 4th official for big matches on touchline to keep an eye on things. Also it needs markings to keep officials inside, like soccer, technical areas."
They had 8 officials there and they made a cock up of it ..

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 27/06/2022 11:28:24    2427923

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Spot on. Before the ball was thrown in I didnt think Galway had the men to stand up to Armagh physically but not alone had they that, they had proper footballers all over the pitch. Serious entertainment from start to finish any anyone who missed it should watch it! A game full of good scores from play and the best team undoubtedly won and were the best team on show over the weekend too. Easily the most enjoybale game in any sport this year.
More games like that please!"
Thanks Tiobraid - in fairness not many posters are fair and objective as they are usually biased in favour of one team or another which is understandable I suppose but that is a fair assessment for a change.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3314 - 27/06/2022 11:29:43    2427924

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Galwayford there is a 4th official,he looks after subs coming on and players being taken off..he sometimes deals with managers going outside the marked area they meant to be in..before extra time started,if I remember correctly,ref,2 linesmen,4 umpires,4th official and 2 others who looked like Gaa officials..definitely enough people to make sure s..te is dealt with..however how they picked out the 2 to be sent off yesterday is baffling,goes to show that even with so many eyes they still don't see what everyone else did..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2206 - 27/06/2022 11:41:37    2427927

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "There's a lot of truth in that. There's an aggression and physical streak in Ulster football that many outside the province don't comprehend. Today a certain Dublin based sports journalist has decided to castigate and vilify Armagh as a county and that's just disgusting. It's vile and outrageous but typifies what passes for acceptable comment against Ulster sides. By all means let the appropriate football authorities deal with yesterday but to use that as an excuse to churn out hatred towards a county that suffered dreadfully over the years is simply unacceptable."
Wow. Even when other Ulster posters call you out you still bury your head in the sand.

Of all the comments made you reply to the only one that has your same deluded view on things. No matter how much you try and use it as a reason to justify it every single time what happened in the past has nothing to do with some of what happened yesterday and at other times.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 27/06/2022 11:41:49    2427928

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Replying To togoutlads:  "We were up there yesterday and enough has been said about the melee already - what we all witnessed up there yesterday was one of the greatest games ever played. Kerry and Mayo people around us said the same. Yes, it was far from perfect, with Galway mistakes galore in the last minutes but for sheer excitement and a 100 minute end to end battle, it was breathless stuff and there's nothing could ever galvanise a team like that game did. Galway men became warriors on the field for us yesterday. Armagh's strength of support is an absolute credit to them - it made for an electric atmosphere. Hoping Galway can bring this match intensity again and be ready for Derry. Tickets on sale from 12 today lads - some of our long standing tv and radio supporters need to get their backsides off the couch. These boys are the real deal and the support is building. Gaillimh Abú."
Fantastic post! What a game of football and as I said earlier a reminder why we love the sport. Lets be honest our game has had a tough few years and every team are entitled to bring whatever tactics they want, but Galway and Armagh yesterday were both epic and the GAA is the real winner.

It's unfortunate someone had to leave Croke Park out of the championship but when it all settles down Armagh can be proud of what they put into it. Can Galway match the support Armagh brought yesterday for the semi final? There must be some buzz and momentum built up after such a titantic game yesterday.

Football people need to look at the positives of yesterday's match, we do have a product despite all the doom and gloom of the past few years.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 27/06/2022 11:42:11    2427929

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Replying To togoutlads:  "We were up there yesterday and enough has been said about the melee already - what we all witnessed up there yesterday was one of the greatest games ever played. Kerry and Mayo people around us said the same. Yes, it was far from perfect, with Galway mistakes galore in the last minutes but for sheer excitement and a 100 minute end to end battle, it was breathless stuff and there's nothing could ever galvanise a team like that game did. Galway men became warriors on the field for us yesterday. Armagh's strength of support is an absolute credit to them - it made for an electric atmosphere. Hoping Galway can bring this match intensity again and be ready for Derry. Tickets on sale from 12 today lads - some of our long standing tv and radio supporters need to get their backsides off the couch. These boys are the real deal and the support is building. Gaillimh Abú."
What a great post - people like you are a credit to the GAA

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 27/06/2022 11:55:17    2427934

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Replying To galwayford:  "GAA needs a 4th official for big matches on touchline to keep an eye on things. Also it needs markings to keep officials inside, like soccer, technical areas."
All the 4th official was doing was telling Finnian O Laoi he couldn't go on the field

systematic (Galway) - Posts: 69 - 27/06/2022 11:56:11    2427935

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Fantastic game between Armagh and Galway, one of the most entertaining games so far.

Galway were marginally the better team and deserved the win, as those two late smash and grab goals saved Armagh from what looked like a 7 or 8 point defeat and took it to the wire. But credit to Armagh for plugging away and never giving up, the style of play was even entertaining.

Looking forward to the Derry v Galway SF now.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1106 - 27/06/2022 12:00:38    2427937

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Replying To tommy k:  "Damo Comer was very good throughout too and has been very consistent all year."
Yeah Comer was good yesterday. Conroy was a lot better than the Connaght Final but still more in him. Walsh made some bad calls and wasnt as good as he has been this year.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1143 - 27/06/2022 12:11:30    2427940

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Replying To baire:  "How could Shane Walsh or Damien Comer be as good when they were not given any protection off the ball. If you were at the game you'd see it but sure the linesmen and umpires, per usual, see nothing!"
The linesmen were like ostriches with their head in the sand and the ref wasn't much better sending off the 2 players that acted the most responsibly during the melee. I personally think they were afraid of the crowd of baying Armagh supporters in case they would get any hassle (or even worse) from the stands which is just completely wrong.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3314 - 27/06/2022 12:15:23    2427944

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Replying To systematic:  "All the 4th official was doing was telling Finnian O Laoi he couldn't go on the field"
No more than the linesman - remind me again who was the fourth official?

MTS (Galway) - Posts: 279 - 27/06/2022 12:30:59    2427947

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Replying To oneoff:  "Wow. Even when other Ulster posters call you out you still bury your head in the sand.

Of all the comments made you reply to the only one that has your same deluded view on things. No matter how much you try and use it as a reason to justify it every single time what happened in the past has nothing to do with some of what happened yesterday and at other times."
No I said let the appropriate GAA disciplinary panels deal with yesterday. Don't use it as an excuse to castigate and vilify an entire county. Trial by media has already started with an extremely vicious personal attack on the county of Armagh and people by a Dublin based journalist. That's just disgusting.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 27/06/2022 12:35:22    2427948

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Replying To tommy k:  "The linesmen were like ostriches with their head in the sand and the ref wasn't much better sending off the 2 players that acted the most responsibly during the melee. I personally think they were afraid of the crowd of baying Armagh supporters in case they would get any hassle (or even worse) from the stands which is just completely wrong."
Think it's a bit unfair to say they were scared of Armagh supporters. I was surrounded by them and while they were loud they were no way a danger to him more than any other set of supporters. Dare I say they were lovely and a bit of craic

If he didn't know. Send off no one. Someone gave nugent and Kelly's names and they got it very wrong

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 27/06/2022 12:40:13    2427949

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "There's a lot of truth in that. There's an aggression and physical streak in Ulster football that many outside the province don't comprehend. Today a certain Dublin based sports journalist has decided to castigate and vilify Armagh as a county and that's just disgusting. It's vile and outrageous but typifies what passes for acceptable comment against Ulster sides. By all means let the appropriate football authorities deal with yesterday but to use that as an excuse to churn out hatred towards a county that suffered dreadfully over the years is simply unacceptable."
Right on cue. The "Dublin based media" are at it again blaming the poor downtrodden Ulster gaels. Eye gouging passes for physicality now? The South just don't under this. Time to stop the nonsense and call this behaviour out. No team should be allowed to brawl their way to a AI semi and gouging like that should never be classified as "Ulster physicality" that other provinces "don't comprehend". I can't see many Ulster supporters sticking by your comments. It's a shame as Armagh are a cracking team but when you look at Derry, for example, that nasty streak isn't there. Armagh need to play like Armagh but probably conduct themselves like Derry.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 27/06/2022 12:43:03    2427950

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