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I apologise it was not forker...

letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 153 - 26/06/2022 21:58:41    2427805

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "This is the second time that an Armagh player / panel member has been caught clearly eye gouging. In a match against Roscommon not that long ago an Armagh player (Who came on as a sub today) put his fingers in both eyes of David Murray (Roscommon corner back) on the goal line, and was caught on camera doing it. All that the Sunday Game panel said on the matter was that the Armagh player would not like seeing it on TV that night. A total cop-out by the Sunday Game panel and also by the GAA who failed to severely punish the Armagh player at that time. The evidence was very clear and the action was intentional.

The eye gouge on Damien Comer today was the worst I have ever seen as he made two attempts to do it. A bad eye gouge could easily blind a player for life and the culprit should be identified, banned for at least three years and never have any involvement with the Armagh county team again.

Croke Park has dressing rooms in both the Hogan and Cusack stands and for the life of me I cannot understand how they have both teams going down the same tunnel. When will they ever learn.

Well done Galway. You deserved the win and were the better team. However not being able to close out the game being six points up with 1.5 minutes of injury time already played, will give you something to think about. Perhaps the Rossie supporters might lay off our team a little after the Clare game

The Galway team showed some character to come back to win it in the end after that set back in normal time. Justice was done in the penalty shoot-out. Hopefully the eye gouger will also get the justice he deserves. Anything less will be disgraceful."
In fairness we lost a match having 5 point lead to a side we were expected to beat. Galway let a big lead slip also but they didn't lose and were up against a Div 1 side who had momentum after two wins against Div 1 sides.

Main positives for Galway is the character shown when things went against them in injury time of normal time. Even in extra they never panicked and went on to score a 2nd goal themselves after conceding a soft 3rd goal.

The likes of Walsh, Conroy weren't as good as some other games but others stepped up like Tierney, Slike,Finnerty and especially McDaid in extra time. The work rate and team play is certainly getting Galway places and they'll be a hard nut for Rory Gallagher to crack.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3743 - 27/06/2022 07:35:31    2427814

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It should be a long ban but the GAA loves a bit of the cute whore or the melted rogue especially in the back room where the deals are done. And our rules are written with that mindset. Tiernan McCann dived against Monaghan in 2015 and got Darren Hughes sent off. It's been 7 years since that incident and despite diving being a growing cancer in the game, there is no rule for it. Then you had the farce of the game this summer where players were suspended for "contributioning to a melee" only to find the rulebook doesn't specify how many players makes up a melee. I'll always have the deepest respect for John Mullane because he took his medicine on 2004 at a time when court injunctions were appearing every second week. He missed the semi final v KK, where they lost by 2 points. But, and this is true, the Waterford Chairman tried to get Mullane off on the spectacular logic that he was sent off in the Munster Championship so the All Ireland semi final was a different competition. Him and his like are the people who write the rules. GAA have a serious problem that they have no intention of fixing because they created the problem.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 27/06/2022 07:53:12    2427817

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Joyce and McGeeney deserve huge credit for building their county team again, one took a little longer due to how far they were back but both saved All Ireland QF weekend with an epic; using styles that every neutral would of enjoyed and at last we realise Gealic football can be a great sport.

It was like a game back in the day with the atmosphere to go alongside it. At a time some counties stick to handpassing across the pitch and appear to be falling away the emergence of Galway, Armagh and Derry (relentless attacking) is great for the game and I expect these three to become consistent Div 1 and latter stage championship teams for a number of years, replacing a number who have been there, the three are in a great place!

Armagh will be disappointed but in normal circumstances they drew with Galway and they'd be back for another epic next week - surely when the GAA see so many players going to America which is a great opportunity for them, we can find room in our championships to give another two or three weeks to allow at least one replay from AL OF onwards, Joyce was spot on post game!

Galway benefited from the system yesterday and they rightly therefore move on. The game with Derry will be a different type of game but I think Galway will go on to show how much of an epic it was yesterday, they have the team, manager and style to beat Derry and at least get very close to winning the All Ireland Final. It would be great for the game if Galway or Derry can win Sam, football need new counties competing and winning and that is why yesterday was great for the sport in an otherwise disappointing QF weekend. Well done to Galway and Armagh for producing such a game.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 27/06/2022 08:18:02    2427821

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Replying To FootblockREF:  "It should be a long ban but the GAA loves a bit of the cute whore or the melted rogue especially in the back room where the deals are done. And our rules are written with that mindset. Tiernan McCann dived against Monaghan in 2015 and got Darren Hughes sent off. It's been 7 years since that incident and despite diving being a growing cancer in the game, there is no rule for it. Then you had the farce of the game this summer where players were suspended for "contributioning to a melee" only to find the rulebook doesn't specify how many players makes up a melee. I'll always have the deepest respect for John Mullane because he took his medicine on 2004 at a time when court injunctions were appearing every second week. He missed the semi final v KK, where they lost by 2 points. But, and this is true, the Waterford Chairman tried to get Mullane off on the spectacular logic that he was sent off in the Munster Championship so the All Ireland semi final was a different competition. Him and his like are the people who write the rules. GAA have a serious problem that they have no intention of fixing because they created the problem."
Would you read the rulebook before you make - up your own rules.
1. there is a rule about diving it comes under the rule to feign a foul or injury and it is a yellow card offence.
2. A melee is any incident involving 3 or more players.

The problem is the court of public opinion and the fact that within the GAA there is no real appetite to close the loopholes that allow players to get off for fear that you might want to use the self same loophole yourself!! I was listening to someone on RTE radio last night talking about the Galway captain being sent off yesterday and assuming that his suspension would be appealed as there were lots of others involved. I didnt see the incident properly myself but by the sounds of it there were loads of people involved and if that is the case instead of the Galway captain getting exonerated everyone else involved should get the suspensions they deserve. A message needs to go out that this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated.

indaknownow (Offaly) - Posts: 112 - 27/06/2022 08:27:23    2427823

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TK needs a ban and deservedly so but some of the reactions on here are simply over the top, my god I've seen idiots on Twitter looking to contact his employers.

We should be talking about a brilliant game of football and a travesty of penalty shoot outs not one particular unsavoury incident and a few hand bags.

sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1053 - 27/06/2022 08:35:01    2427826

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If Armagh had any sense they should get out in front of this. He should apologise to Comer, Galway team and his own supporters. Armagh should suspend him from all activity for rest of 2022. This isn't a tactic to escape a tougher sanction, its simply the right thing to do. Then when the almost inevitable bigger sanction comes down, do not appeal. Although telling a county board not to appeal is like telling a person not to breath, its in their nature.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 27/06/2022 08:40:44    2427828

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Replying To The_analyser:  "In fairness we lost a match having 5 point lead to a side we were expected to beat. Galway let a big lead slip also but they didn't lose and were up against a Div 1 side who had momentum after two wins against Div 1 sides.

Main positives for Galway is the character shown when things went against them in injury time of normal time. Even in extra they never panicked and went on to score a 2nd goal themselves after conceding a soft 3rd goal.

The likes of Walsh, Conroy weren't as good as some other games but others stepped up like Tierney, Slike,Finnerty and especially McDaid in extra time. The work rate and team play is certainly getting Galway places and they'll be a hard nut for Rory Gallagher to crack."
Damo Comer was very good throughout too and has been very consistent all year.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3314 - 27/06/2022 08:59:58    2427833

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Well done to Galway and hard luck to Armagh. Armagh can be proud of their wee run and have some very good players like Rian O Neill.

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1139 - 27/06/2022 09:14:17    2427836

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We were up there yesterday and enough has been said about the melee already - what we all witnessed up there yesterday was one of the greatest games ever played. Kerry and Mayo people around us said the same. Yes, it was far from perfect, with Galway mistakes galore in the last minutes but for sheer excitement and a 100 minute end to end battle, it was breathless stuff and there's nothing could ever galvanise a team like that game did. Galway men became warriors on the field for us yesterday. Armagh's strength of support is an absolute credit to them - it made for an electric atmosphere. Hoping Galway can bring this match intensity again and be ready for Derry. Tickets on sale from 12 today lads - some of our long standing tv and radio supporters need to get their backsides off the couch. These boys are the real deal and the support is building. Gaillimh Abú.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 898 - 27/06/2022 09:32:14    2427849

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Nugent and Kelly behaved like we want players to behave in that sort of situation. Went in to break up the situation . Did not react to being pushed and shoved . They managed to help calm the situation. Both really took on the captain role amd behaved admirably. Ref should have to answer for why their names were given . Video clearly shows neither retaliated ever so no one could've possibly seen them do anything wrong

They were not selected to be sent off because they are captains. That's not in the rules and for some reason was treated as gospel by one of the radio stations

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 27/06/2022 09:32:54    2427851

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Replying To candlewax:  "What were you doing there boss"
Supporting a relative playing for Kerry, not that it matters, anyone who buys a ticket is well entitled to attend.

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 27/06/2022 09:37:30    2427855

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Replying To The_analyser:  "In fairness we lost a match having 5 point lead to a side we were expected to beat. Galway let a big lead slip also but they didn't lose and were up against a Div 1 side who had momentum after two wins against Div 1 sides.

Main positives for Galway is the character shown when things went against them in injury time of normal time. Even in extra they never panicked and went on to score a 2nd goal themselves after conceding a soft 3rd goal.

The likes of Walsh, Conroy weren't as good as some other games but others stepped up like Tierney, Slike,Finnerty and especially McDaid in extra time. The work rate and team play is certainly getting Galway places and they'll be a hard nut for Rory Gallagher to crack."
How could Shane Walsh or Damien Comer be as good when they were not given any protection off the ball. If you were at the game you'd see it but sure the linesmen and umpires, per usual, see nothing!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1785 - 27/06/2022 09:43:11    2427859

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Exiting finish

Galway should have won handy in normal time but butchered 3-4 go chances

Armaghs penalties were as bad a set as you'll ever see. Galway's takers were coolness personified. Just a pit the last guy didn't go for a panenka - he could have missed and they still would have one - won't get a free shot at it again

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1105 - 27/06/2022 10:06:55    2427870

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The carry on of some Armagh players and subs is all a by product of political history over the last 100 years.
Armagh Nationalists/GAA folk suffered horrifically at the hands of Loyalist/British gangs and this creates a very battle hardened community who will literally die for their jersey/identity .
We in the south over the last 100 years haven't experienced that but many of these armagh players came from familys/communitys that suffered horrifically . It doesnt excuse it but the Galway and Armagh players worlds they were brought up in are poles apart unfortunately .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 669 - 27/06/2022 10:17:17    2427876

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Replying To baire:  "How could Shane Walsh or Damien Comer be as good when they were not given any protection off the ball. If you were at the game you'd see it but sure the linesmen and umpires, per usual, see nothing!"
But who as the linesman? did you see that name anywhere before?

MTS (Galway) - Posts: 279 - 27/06/2022 10:23:09    2427882

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Replying To OpenStand:  "The carry on of some Armagh players and subs is all a by product of political history over the last 100 years.
Armagh Nationalists/GAA folk suffered horrifically at the hands of Loyalist/British gangs and this creates a very battle hardened community who will literally die for their jersey/identity .
We in the south over the last 100 years haven't experienced that but many of these armagh players came from familys/communitys that suffered horrifically . It doesnt excuse it but the Galway and Armagh players worlds they were brought up in are poles apart unfortunately ."
Wow. This is something I'd expect to see from Ulsterman...

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 27/06/2022 10:25:43    2427885

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Football was the real winner yesterday great to see teams moving away form all the negative boring low risk football we have seen over the past few years. Great attitude form both teams going all out for the win not content with the draw. Even Derry showed at the weekend that they can play open attractive attacking football and never happy with a point if there is any chance that there is a goal on. Its so refreshing to see. Pity about the handbags and melee and one very foolish armagh panelist will get a long ban but this morning we should be talking about the brilliant match we have just seen played by amateurs giving it all for their counties.

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 27/06/2022 10:26:04    2427886

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Replying To The_analyser:  "In fairness we lost a match having 5 point lead to a side we were expected to beat. Galway let a big lead slip also but they didn't lose and were up against a Div 1 side who had momentum after two wins against Div 1 sides.

Main positives for Galway is the character shown when things went against them in injury time of normal time. Even in extra they never panicked and went on to score a 2nd goal themselves after conceding a soft 3rd goal.

The likes of Walsh, Conroy weren't as good as some other games but others stepped up like Tierney, Slike,Finnerty and especially McDaid in extra time. The work rate and team play is certainly getting Galway places and they'll be a hard nut for Rory Gallagher to crack."
In fairness it is more than work rate and team play that us getting Galway places!! They have some superb players who ar every well coached and drilled. Walsh is a class act and when needed Comer and Conroy stood up yesterday- when they needed leaders they were there. Finnerty was excellent. They have some brilliant players- work rate and team play only gets you do far as I am sure you know!! You also need that bit of class.

howdareu (USA) - Posts: 220 - 27/06/2022 10:28:43    2427888

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Replying To OpenStand:  "The carry on of some Armagh players and subs is all a by product of political history over the last 100 years.
Armagh Nationalists/GAA folk suffered horrifically at the hands of Loyalist/British gangs and this creates a very battle hardened community who will literally die for their jersey/identity .
We in the south over the last 100 years haven't experienced that but many of these armagh players came from familys/communitys that suffered horrifically . It doesnt excuse it but the Galway and Armagh players worlds they were brought up in are poles apart unfortunately ."
There's a lot of truth in that. There's an aggression and physical streak in Ulster football that many outside the province don't comprehend. Today a certain Dublin based sports journalist has decided to castigate and vilify Armagh as a county and that's just disgusting. It's vile and outrageous but typifies what passes for acceptable comment against Ulster sides. By all means let the appropriate football authorities deal with yesterday but to use that as an excuse to churn out hatred towards a county that suffered dreadfully over the years is simply unacceptable.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 27/06/2022 10:30:25    2427889

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