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That looks to be confirmation An Tochar are shunning it then. FrankieJoe (Wicklow) - Posts: 71 - 27/01/2023 13:09:47 2454556 Link 0 |
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I wouldn't have thought that there would be too many from that particular club would be classed as being of senior inter county standard yet. I could be wrong but, looking at the team beaten by Balto, the older guys are tried and tested before, the few around early 20's are possibly not good enough yet and the rest have a lot of learning to do. Was it not a fact that 5 of them only sat their LC during the summer? . Personally I believe that every young footballer should aspire to representing their county at the highest level. Who knows, maybe they will be part of the U20 setup.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 995 - 27/01/2023 15:43:11 2454603 Link 0 |
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It is indeed an interesting selection. It is also refreshing to see that management are not afraid to name the team a day or two before a game. This hasn't always been the case and is frustrating when it doesn't happen. Also, did I see where all games are pre booking only ??
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 995 - 27/01/2023 15:45:53 2454605 Link 0 |
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I disagree with you Freethinker, i think An Tochar players opting not to join the county setup is a massive setback for the new management. I don't know the reason why they've made this choice and it is academic at this stage pertaining to the league. I think age is irrelvant if a player is good enough: i would pick a player regardless of their age unless there are better players in the county with more experience. If this is the case i haven't seen those players. I saw all the teams in the wicklow championship over the last two years and there are a handful of An Tochar players that i would pick ahead of some players who will start or are substitutes against Carlow. I hope these players are not lost to the county setup in the years ahead and that they will reconsider and play at some stage.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1910 - 28/01/2023 11:29:22 2454683 Link 0 |
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What do you mean you wold pick a player ahead of some sure the players arenot made available by roundwood so you cant just pick a player. You making it sound the selecters decided not to pick any of them because of age I told you before the club dont want players playing county this year anyway whatever about future so theyve all stayed away. Not the only ones either plenty stronf senior clubs dont want their lads in with the county. Fair enough for me club must always come first. County second. Pat Mustard (None) - Posts: 385 - 28/01/2023 13:18:10 2454715 Link 1 |
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Based upon what i've seen there are An Tochar players regardless of their age who are good enough to play on the cuurent county senior team. If these players were playing then the county would have a much better chance of promotion as they are quality players. But as has been the case for a number of years some players don't fancy playing for the county which is their choice.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1910 - 28/01/2023 14:27:14 2454732 Link 0 |
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I have a couple of friends in Roundwood who are involved with the club and I never heard anything about lads being asked to not make themselves available Pat but I have no reason to doubt you so, that puts that to bed as they say. Getting back to tonight and the new league getting under way, I want to wish the team m, panel and management the very best of luck.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 995 - 28/01/2023 16:29:15 2454767 Link 0 |
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I can't make any matches for the moment but have we any opinions on the game in general ?? I would have thought that being unable to hold a lead against 14 would give cause for concern ?? From reading Carlow posts, it might seem that the referee was overly fussy - against both sides. Was it 10 yellows in a game with not a dirty tackle in it ? Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 995 - 29/01/2023 12:00:19 2454895 Link 0 |
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I couldn't make the game last night. I agree, playing for a long period withban extra man and not get the win is concerning. As i said on this thread, we pretty much have the same team who are conceding goals for the last twelve months and conceded two again last night. These are two concerns that seem to be in the team and need to be improvedcif we are to progress.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1910 - 29/01/2023 17:12:09 2454999 Link 0 |
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Reading some Carlow posts the game seems to have been pretty well contested in front of a decent crowd. Some points emerge - they seem to think that they were gifted the goals and that their apparent better fitness levels enabled them to pull back the 3 points and almost nick the game as our levels seemed to drop in the last 10/15 minutes and we looked a bit sluggish. I fear there will be tougher tests ahead. Laois and Leitrim ran up decent scores. Having said that, 2-10 is a decent score and is enough to win many matches. Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 995 - 30/01/2023 10:49:23 2455200 Link 0 |
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Watching the highlights of the game on RTE; Mark Jackson had a bad night at the office. I would agree, the two goals were gifted to Carlow. Picking up a point on the road is not a bad result, the disappointing aspect is that we should have two points given that we had an extra man for most of the second half. The key to promotion is winning home games. If we can win our home games and pick up a couple of decent results away then we won't be far away. I was hoping that Oisin would address our defensive issues; we concede too many goals which makes winning the game difficult. As you point out 2-10 should win us the game.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1910 - 30/01/2023 11:24:19 2455213 Link 0 |
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Two good matches at the weekend for the footballers and hurlers. The hurlers should be back to full strength so this one will be interesting to see where we are at. liam500 (Wicklow) - Posts: 175 - 03/02/2023 12:15:04 2456138 Link 0 |
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It will be interesting to see how the hurlers go...they have been getting better with each match...Casey is a real hurling man and the players have responded to him! The football will also be interesting...Sligo won't be happen with the manner of their defeat last week and we seem to be leaking goals but on the other hand we seem to be scoring well so who knows what will happen on Sunday!
stringfellohawk (Wicklow) - Posts: 124 - 03/02/2023 17:52:42 2456213 Link 0 |
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Hurling team is picked for today. 8 Bray lads on it. Should be a very tight game. liam500 (Wicklow) - Posts: 175 - 04/02/2023 12:21:31 2456323 Link 0 |
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Mmmm. 8 Bray lads and a 10 pt loss. I fully realise that Bray are top of the pile in the county at the moment in the county but 8 ? Don't think so.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 995 - 04/02/2023 15:47:59 2456382 Link 0 |
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FrankieJoe (Wicklow) - Posts: 71 - 04/02/2023 17:52:58 2456413 Link 0 |
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Football manager does not have the experience to turn the ship around, he is in a world of trouble. sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2897 - 05/02/2023 17:15:50 2456617 Link 0 |
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I couldn't make the game but reading reports there was only one team in it in the 2nd half and unfortunately, there are 2 halves in every game. 18 pts is almost a hurling match score. Last week we were gifting goals and it seems like our midfield struggled today. I think we might struggle to pick up many points in our coming games. If we could even get improving performances - game on game, we could possibly give the Tailteann Cup a rattle. A youngish team learning the ropes and a manager doing the same, things can only get better.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 995 - 05/02/2023 18:55:30 2456696 Link 1 |
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'He is in a world of trouble'; not sure what you mean by this phrase? Wicklow have had more managers in the last five years than Britain have had prime ministers. Our county champions are annually being hammered in the leinster club championship. We get beaten in the early stages of the minor and under 20 championship annually. We have no teams of note in the leinster colleges competitions. Some of the rare bits of talent in the county choose not to play for the county. Of course it is the managers fault that we are where we are!!! As a county we need to leave the current management team in place for three years minimum. As a county we need competitive underage and schools teams competing and winning games in the province. We will never have a strong county team until we get the foundations in the county right; this is cuurently not the case and it is exposed when we try to compete against other counties. wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1910 - 06/02/2023 12:30:30 2456852 Link 1 |
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Davy Burke is flying at the minute with the Rossies. Fair play to him. I'd love to know the inside story on why he left us. Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 995 - 06/02/2023 14:14:43 2456864 Link 2 |