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Replying To Dealer: "If I were JK (and I know that he knows more than I), my selection for the final would be as follows: Quaid Finn Morrissey Nash Byrnes Hannon Hayes O'Donovan O'Donoghue Morrissey Lynch O'Neill Gillane Hegarty Flanagan Basically, I'm going back to the 2021 team with O'Neill at wing forward and Hegarty at full forward with Peter Casey as the only difference. Also I'd probably only keep Hegarty at the edge of the square for the first 20 minutes and move him out the field for the rest of the game. I'd like Hegarty to play the full 70+. The name of the game is to give KK somethings that they might not be expecting and to win as many one on one duels as possible. I've shifted Dan to full back in anticipation that KK will go long. I'm not knocking Mike Casey but I am concerned about the aerial blitz that will be coming at us. I want Hayes back at wing back because that's he's best position. He's not just another defender when he plays there - he's also an attacking factor that has to be accounted for. We need Lynch back. The single biggest reason that Limerick have not hit the top gear that they achieved last year is his absence. There's no replacement for a generational player like him and he has the ability to both challenge Reid defensively and to stop him spraying ball around. Playing Gearoid at full forward is a pet notion of mine and is the least likely to actually happen in reality but I reckon he could kill a full back if he's deployed there even just for a period and give, particularly Gillane, a bit of freedom to do terrible things to a KK corner back. The key to winning are (1) scoring efficiency (2) discipline. I'd like to to go 15 on 15 and make it an individual battle by battle a bit like the 2017 U21 All Ireland because I'm confident that the quality of players on our team us higher. Finally, it's to Limerick's advantage that KK blew the lights out against Clare and we struggled against Galway. There's no hiding in the long grass now for KK and Limerick know that they need an outstanding performance to win. I think that this team is trained and calibrated to maximize it's performance levels in July so I believe but we need to get those performance levels back to 2021 levels." Quaid Finn Casey Nash Byrnes Dec Dan DoD WoD Hego Cian Hayes Tom Gillane Flanagan I think lynch starts in a busy HF line exposing that kk HB line. I see hego and Tom dropping to midfield to help the lads out as our HB line will drop again. Kk will flood midfield so we need to act. Galway clare and Tipp have all gotten rewards by 2 floaters in midfield. Mullen needs to be watched possibly by WoD I don't see hayes going back and have said that since the start of championship. He's finally comfortable on the 40 and defensively we are very solid so changing personnel at 3 and 7 would be way too disruptive. The main areas for prep are the middle third on kk puck outs and I think we let them have it short and flood the running ability of Mullen and Billy Ryan. I watched the match back and my initial thoughts when at the match that cian was struggling movement wise might have been a bit reactionary. He definitely covered a lot more ground than I had initially thought and went full tilt a few times esp under the hogan stand after Tom monaghan. I think kiely trusts in the plan for the last 3 months to have him ready for this match. He's a game changer and I'd start him. It will be interesting to see what kk do match ups wise. Who will lawlor/butler take? Where will TJ start. Will kk go long as I think Limerick will drop off them.. It's the final I had expected and will be mouth watering. daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 08/07/2022 09:34:04 2430400 Link
Replying To daveboy: "Quaid Finn Casey Nash Byrnes Dec Dan DoD WoD Hego Cian Hayes Tom Gillane Flanagan I think lynch starts in a busy HF line exposing that kk HB line. I see hego and Tom dropping to midfield to help the lads out as our HB line will drop again. Kk will flood midfield so we need to act. Galway clare and Tipp have all gotten rewards by 2 floaters in midfield. Mullen needs to be watched possibly by WoD I don't see hayes going back and have said that since the start of championship. He's finally comfortable on the 40 and defensively we are very solid so changing personnel at 3 and 7 would be way too disruptive. The main areas for prep are the middle third on kk puck outs and I think we let them have it short and flood the running ability of Mullen and Billy Ryan. I watched the match back and my initial thoughts when at the match that cian was struggling movement wise might have been a bit reactionary. He definitely covered a lot more ground than I had initially thought and went full tilt a few times esp under the hogan stand after Tom monaghan. I think kiely trusts in the plan for the last 3 months to have him ready for this match. He's a game changer and I'd start him. It will be interesting to see what kk do match ups wise. Who will lawlor/butler take? Where will TJ start. Will kk go long as I think Limerick will drop off them.. It's the final I had expected and will be mouth watering." I think this will be the team also, mul has been a magnificent servant and has contributed this yr with work rate but cian needs special attention from the opposition so has to start imo. kk are so crafty their tradition their belief they will not fear us we'll need to be at our best to beat them. someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 09/07/2022 11:09:57 2430617 Link
Yeah my only change would be moving Dan back for Casey. Id leave Hayes in that Half forward line and start Coughlan maybe. That's how bad I think Mike Casey was against Galway. He's hand pass to nowhere was outrageously poor . He gave tbe ball away directly 4 times under no pressure. If I was Kilkenny I'd test him straight away like in 2019 when Fennelly got the goal off him. I rate Morrissey as a brilliant fullback. Also midfield is a problem and has been for a while. The two boys don't have the legs to cover everywhere. They were over run in the Munster final. Taylor in the Munster final and Monaghan in the semi looked like superstars they had so much time on the ball. If Mullen gets 4 or 5 points the next day then it ll be very bad tactics because uts happened 2 or 3 times already . Id flood midfield completely with Hegarty right in the middle. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 09/07/2022 13:06:03 2430647 Link
Bloodyban have you got out of wrong side of bed..I dont feel any need to change the back six..I'd disagree and hold Cian as a replacement and look at starting peter instead of Mul..you have something against Mikey,he was caught for goal last week but don't remember many other chances given up in matches played..I'd like to see us create more goal chances,maybe like last year the final might throw up a few for limerick.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2499 - 09/07/2022 13:26:52 2430651 Link
Replying To kiloughter: "Well done Limerick. We matched ye for most of that game but ultimately your overall class won the day. Gillane is unmarkable in many ways as we did a lot right to nullify Hegarty and T. Morrissey who have been central to a lot of your play over the years. Reidy surely is in with huge chance of a starting berth in the final. Now to our footballers and hoping we can kick on from the quarter final and start to create our own history in that code." Yes Indeed best of luck to Galway Footballers. Ten minutes to go and a sitting room ringside seat 'booked'- should be a great game, as both sides play open Football. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 09/07/2022 17:22:36 2430695 Link
Replying To someday: "I think this will be the team also, mul has been a magnificent servant and has contributed this yr with work rate but cian needs special attention from the opposition so has to start imo. kk are so crafty their tradition their belief they will not fear us we'll need to be at our best to beat them." I picked my team in fantasy mode but I know that we've crossed the Rubicon at this point in the season as regards the back 6 and I'd agree that they should be picked for the final en-bloc. I've no doubt that they'll be prepared for a KK aerial blitz and that they'll deal with it. I think Cian Lynch will start (probably at the expense of Mul) at centre forward. We'll have a 2 man full forward line with Hayes as the floater around the middle filling gaps and creating mismatches. We have subs to bring us home so the starters have to do the business. If we get ahead, I don't think we'll be caught so a fast start is really important. Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 837 - 10/07/2022 09:35:42 2430955 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "Yes Indeed best of luck to Galway Footballers. Ten minutes to go and a sitting room ringside seat 'booked'- should be a great game, as both sides play open Football." Open football, are you sure you have a clue what you're talking about there OTM. Derry, under Rory, play 'closed football' generally. They might 'open it up' a tad playing Clare alright, but sure, wouldn't we all? Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4095 - 10/07/2022 10:41:19 2430970 Link
i'm thinking that the same 15 will start again next sunday unless casey or lynch are burning it up in training......if we did start lynch and he struggles to get into the game and has to be taken off its going to give an unreal lift to the kilkenny team and supporters and will be as good as a goal to them. to see lynch walking off the field.....but bringing both on again like last sunday will give limerick the lift as happened last sunday galway were really tight on lynch and casey and it gave oceans of room for david reidy. munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1136 - 10/07/2022 10:54:26 2430975 Link
Replying To munsterchamps: "i'm thinking that the same 15 will start again next sunday unless casey or lynch are burning it up in training......if we did start lynch and he struggles to get into the game and has to be taken off its going to give an unreal lift to the kilkenny team and supporters and will be as good as a goal to them. to see lynch walking off the field.....but bringing both on again like last sunday will give limerick the lift as happened last sunday galway were really tight on lynch and casey and it gave oceans of room for david reidy." Two areas I think we need work hard on since the Galway Game are; 1. Being turned over . I thought both Limerick and Clare struggled (more than the Munster campaign) to hold on to possession. Similar situation with us when we played Wexford in the NHL. So it appears to me that the Leinster teams and especially KK are masters at this. 2 . Our own long puck outs. I think kk will push up on all our full backs and force long puckouts. They might leave Mike Casey be first receiver as he was not that comfortable doing it v Galway. We were poor in this area against Galway. I need to check the stats (would be great if someone has them) but it appeared to me that we won less than 50% of our own long puck outs. KK would love nothing more than to beat us in the air. Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 11/07/2022 08:59:48 2431243 Link
Replying To Seeking_silver: "Two areas I think we need work hard on since the Galway Game are; 1. Being turned over . I thought both Limerick and Clare struggled (more than the Munster campaign) to hold on to possession. Similar situation with us when we played Wexford in the NHL. So it appears to me that the Leinster teams and especially KK are masters at this. 2 . Our own long puck outs. I think kk will push up on all our full backs and force long puckouts. They might leave Mike Casey be first receiver as he was not that comfortable doing it v Galway. We were poor in this area against Galway. I need to check the stats (would be great if someone has them) but it appeared to me that we won less than 50% of our own long puck outs. KK would love nothing more than to beat us in the air." limerick only won 7 out of 22 long puckouts last sunday which is a very poor return less than 30% success. munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1136 - 11/07/2022 09:58:27 2431264 Link
Replying To daveboy: "Quaid Finn Casey Nash Byrnes Dec Dan DoD WoD Hego Cian Hayes Tom Gillane Flanagan I think lynch starts in a busy HF line exposing that kk HB line. I see hego and Tom dropping to midfield to help the lads out as our HB line will drop again. Kk will flood midfield so we need to act. Galway clare and Tipp have all gotten rewards by 2 floaters in midfield. Mullen needs to be watched possibly by WoD I don't see hayes going back and have said that since the start of championship. He's finally comfortable on the 40 and defensively we are very solid so changing personnel at 3 and 7 would be way too disruptive. The main areas for prep are the middle third on kk puck outs and I think we let them have it short and flood the running ability of Mullen and Billy Ryan. I watched the match back and my initial thoughts when at the match that cian was struggling movement wise might have been a bit reactionary. He definitely covered a lot more ground than I had initially thought and went full tilt a few times esp under the hogan stand after Tom monaghan. I think kiely trusts in the plan for the last 3 months to have him ready for this match. He's a game changer and I'd start him. It will be interesting to see what kk do match ups wise. Who will lawlor/butler take? Where will TJ start. Will kk go long as I think Limerick will drop off them.. It's the final I had expected and will be mouth watering." Really good points. I think Limerick will see Richie Reid as the only one thet wont want receiving either a short puckout or the next pass. I dont think they'll be overly concerned with the other 5. I think Lynch maybe the one who starts in the Mulcahy role but if its Hayes then Kilkenny have a big problem in my opinion. I think Lawlor has improved a lot - I didnt really rate him too highly up to this year but depsite the narrative around Butler and to a less extent Tommy Walsh, I dont think they are really top intercounty corner backs. Neither were tested once with the ball Limerick will put in time and time again on Sunday and I think they can be exposed badly. With the right ball in I cant see how Butler contains any of the Limerick full forward line. I'd have 2-3 max KK players that would make that Limerick team and while KK maybe in the match at half time I cant see anything other than a comfortable Limerick win. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 11/07/2022 10:25:44 2431278 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Really good points. I think Limerick will see Richie Reid as the only one thet wont want receiving either a short puckout or the next pass. I dont think they'll be overly concerned with the other 5. I think Lynch maybe the one who starts in the Mulcahy role but if its Hayes then Kilkenny have a big problem in my opinion. I think Lawlor has improved a lot - I didnt really rate him too highly up to this year but depsite the narrative around Butler and to a less extent Tommy Walsh, I dont think they are really top intercounty corner backs. Neither were tested once with the ball Limerick will put in time and time again on Sunday and I think they can be exposed badly. With the right ball in I cant see how Butler contains any of the Limerick full forward line. I'd have 2-3 max KK players that would make that Limerick team and while KK maybe in the match at half time I cant see anything other than a comfortable Limerick win." I would respect all the Kilkenny players and I expect a tough battle on Sunday, with our sides greater experience just about helping them to shade it. May the best team win. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 11/07/2022 17:25:04 2431498 Link
Not good news doing the rounds about Cian Lynch. No go for Sunday by all accounts. If true I think most likely scenario is we will be going with same 15 that started semi final. Mul asked to run himself into the ground for 40 or so mins until likes of Reidy and Casey are sprung Aido-Kel (Limerick) - Posts: 1 - 13/07/2022 09:37:29 2431781 Link
Replying To Aido-Kel: "Not good news doing the rounds about Cian Lynch. No go for Sunday by all accounts. If true I think most likely scenario is we will be going with same 15 that started semi final. Mul asked to run himself into the ground for 40 or so mins until likes of Reidy and Casey are sprung" I know I said in an earlier post that I think he might play the Mulcahy role but the more I think about it the more I think the most he will play is 20-25 mins given he has only 15 mins of action in a couple of months. Hes the best player in the country for me and has been for a few years now but having said that I dont think that Limerick will need him to win the game whether hes fit or not. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 13/07/2022 10:40:14 2431803 Link
Bit of a worrying sign seeing Lynch in a protective boot this evening. Big doubt for Sunday now paddyirish (Limerick) - Posts: 15 - 13/07/2022 20:58:06 2431956 Link
Can I just wish all involved with limerick the very best of luck on Sunday..all going well 3 in a row champions..it would be super..cmon the treaty.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2499 - 14/07/2022 11:59:55 2432024 Link
Replying To CTGAA10: "Can I just wish all involved with limerick the very best of luck on Sunday..all going well 3 in a row champions..it would be super..cmon the treaty.." I second that. Win or Lose this team has given us great days. Come on the Boys in Green. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 14/07/2022 15:10:17 2432079 Link
Replying To paddyirish: "Bit of a worrying sign seeing Lynch in a protective boot this evening. Big doubt for Sunday now" Why are people sneaking around take photos of players, it's a bit tabloidy and totally wrong. updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 898 - 15/07/2022 11:14:27 2432167 Link
Replying To updwell: "Why are people sneaking around take photos of players, it's a bit tabloidy and totally wrong." People nowadays are obsessed with taking photos and videos of everything to post it on social media as fast as they can Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2269 - 15/07/2022 13:23:22 2432211 Link
Replying To updwell: "Why are people sneaking around take photos of players, it's a bit tabloidy and totally wrong." It's the modern thing of social media. Technology has advanced. On a relevant note, Limerick will face a big test on Sunday. Going to be a tough one. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 15/07/2022 13:51:45 2432221 Link