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Replying To Skippy2:  "Well done to both teams today, giving us a very entertaining game.
Both team's will feel they can improve for the replay.
Especially on their finishing.
On another note, it's very frustrating how badly run we are at the top. Especially when it comes to hurling.
- 20 Euro entrance fee
- Couldn't get the score board right.
- And worst of all. Fixing the replay for next Sunday.
Imagine asking St Mullins to go again in 7 day's after their gruelling 3 weeks.
And County board try to justify it by saying we have to think about the football club's as they have got their start dates.
Oh My God."
Any replay was always going to be next weekend. Why should/would they get a reward of an extra week just because they couldn't win their semi final quicker/easier?

MLR (Carlow) - Posts: 76 - 11/08/2024 18:15:36    2564626

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Replying To Skippy2:  "Well done to both teams today, giving us a very entertaining game.
Both team's will feel they can improve for the replay.
Especially on their finishing.
On another note, it's very frustrating how badly run we are at the top. Especially when it comes to hurling.
- 20 Euro entrance fee
- Couldn't get the score board right.
- And worst of all. Fixing the replay for next Sunday.
Imagine asking St Mullins to go again in 7 day's after their gruelling 3 weeks.
And County board try to justify it by saying we have to think about the football club's as they have got their start dates.
Oh My God."
Both St Mullins and MLR are also taking part in the football championship. So, the replay must be played next weekend.

Agree about the scoreboard. Farcical.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 711 - 11/08/2024 19:54:09    2564645

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Replying To MLR:  "Any replay was always going to be next weekend. Why should/would they get a reward of an extra week just because they couldn't win their semi final quicker/easier?"
No allowance made for draws with the fixtures, dress it up anyway you like it's wrong, and probably gave Rangers the edge today.

Skippy2 (Carlow) - Posts: 68 - 11/08/2024 20:01:14    2564646

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Replying To Skippy2:  "No allowance made for draws with the fixtures, dress it up anyway you like it's wrong, and probably gave Rangers the edge today."
Well said skippy. Absolute disgrace asking amateur players to complete this kind of schedule. This farce has got to end. What's this big rush about anyway. Winners will be waiting 8 or 9 weeks til their leinster game.And so what if it overlaps with football championship. It's just 2 clubs, one inter and one senior and it shouldn't be beyond the wit of man to accommodate them . Carlow county board tho.....different story.

Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 270 - 11/08/2024 20:49:32    2564656

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Replying To Skippy2:  "No allowance made for draws with the fixtures, dress it up anyway you like it's wrong, and probably gave Rangers the edge today."
The draw is made at the start of the championship. If you need a replay, when do you think it's going to be played? Set fixtures now means games have to be played on the date they're set, especially senior club. Both teams know that at the start of the championship. I've already had an argument with my ould lad today about this. Why should the rangers be penalised for winning their semi at the first attempt?

MLR (Carlow) - Posts: 76 - 11/08/2024 21:16:06    2564663

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Replying To MLR:  "The draw is made at the start of the championship. If you need a replay, when do you think it's going to be played? Set fixtures now means games have to be played on the date they're set, especially senior club. Both teams know that at the start of the championship. I've already had an argument with my ould lad today about this. Why should the rangers be penalised for winning their semi at the first attempt?"
I can 100% see your point.
I just feel the whole thing is geared up for the football champions, they will get a lovely run into the 1st round of leinster.
While our best hurlers are getting flogged week in week out.
And still end up not being tested going into the 1st round of leinster ( 11 week break)
When it's all said and done, it's doing nothing to improve Carlow club hurling.
Surly they could have looked at pushing back the football by a week.

Skippy2 (Carlow) - Posts: 68 - 11/08/2024 21:42:24    2564668

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Replying To MLR:  "The draw is made at the start of the championship. If you need a replay, when do you think it's going to be played? Set fixtures now means games have to be played on the date they're set, especially senior club. Both teams know that at the start of the championship. I've already had an argument with my ould lad today about this. Why should the rangers be penalised for winning their semi at the first attempt?"
How are they being penalised by getting an extra week recovery. Bizarre logic. No wonder your aul lad was argueing with you. : < )

Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 270 - 11/08/2024 21:54:14    2564669

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Replying To benchtoaster:  "UCD haven't played in the Dublin championship for a long time"
I might be wrong but I haven't seen a rule governing universities and named colleges participating in club championships in recent years. If SETU want to compete in the Carlow championships they/Carlow CB may need to bring a motion to congress,

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 11/08/2024 23:07:43    2564675

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Replying To Skippy2:  "I can 100% see your point.
I just feel the whole thing is geared up for the football champions, they will get a lovely run into the 1st round of leinster.
While our best hurlers are getting flogged week in week out.
And still end up not being tested going into the 1st round of leinster ( 11 week break)
When it's all said and done, it's doing nothing to improve Carlow club hurling.
Surly they could have looked at pushing back the football by a week."
100% agree. I think that cost the rangers last year the fact they had such a break from the county final to leinster game. Genuinely think we have 2 of the best teams not just in leinster but the country. But whoever wins next week again will be hindered by the long lay off

MLR (Carlow) - Posts: 76 - 11/08/2024 23:58:05    2564678

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Replying To Overthebar53:  "How are they being penalised by getting an extra week recovery. Bizarre logic. No wonder your aul lad was argueing with you. : < )"
Would you behave? If you think your opponents are going to be more tired than you, why would you give them an extra week to recover. Championship is about winning. Do you genuinely think st mullins would give an extra week if the tables were turned?

MLR (Carlow) - Posts: 76 - 12/08/2024 00:00:23    2564679

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It was a great game of hurling which had plenty of incident and goals galore and I am looking forward to the replay.
Rangers started very well with their goal from cCarain Kavanagh and then we had the drama of Marty's goal at the end.
In between Edward Byrne obliged as did Jack Kavanagh - I believe both sides deserve another shot at it.
I am not in favour of extra time for finals unless its a replay.
As for the scoreboard- mistakes happen. The important thing is that the referee had the right score !!!
As for the replay date - nobody expects replays as a general rule - so, when they do we all have our views.
Those that say whats the rush and football can go back a week have no idea of how the games schedule works out and have litttle respect for players. Players now expect a clear and unambiguous games schedule and they are entitled to that meaning that they have their holidays and family events schedule to coincide with their games schedule.
Sunday next is the only true option.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1842 - 12/08/2024 01:06:38    2564683

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People are never happy.

A week is the standard amount of time to schedule a replay.

If that game yesterday, or the semi final went to ET/Penalties, people would complain that games shouldn't be decided like that and both teams deserved another day out (this years AI final).

Offering replays can cause more fixture congestion. Trying to slot in more games into a tight calendar is not easy. Remember also, that with NB pulling out, all teams played a game less in the group stages. St Mullins will actually only end up playing one game more than they were scheduled to (providing they made the final)

Co Board, for all their flaws, are literally in a no win situation here. They were going to be criticised no matter what they done.

TaosHum (Carlow) - Posts: 249 - 12/08/2024 06:50:40    2564686

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Replying To Skippy2:  "I can 100% see your point.
I just feel the whole thing is geared up for the football champions, they will get a lovely run into the 1st round of leinster.
While our best hurlers are getting flogged week in week out.
And still end up not being tested going into the 1st round of leinster ( 11 week break)
When it's all said and done, it's doing nothing to improve Carlow club hurling.
Surly they could have looked at pushing back the football by a week."
It's amazing how people forget the state Carlow club hurling was in before the split season was implemented. Carlow Town and Naomh Brid were in continued decline, struggling to compete at Intermediate. Kildavin/Clongeal didn't exist and MLR/SM competed in the previous 5 SHC finals and we had FOUR Senior hurling teams in 2019.

Next season we will more than likely have 4 first teams competing at Intermediate, with BR, CT and KC all moving in the right direction. NB gave Senior a go, dropping back to Intermediate will be good for them to regroup and get some confidence back.

Bagenalstown and Ballinkillen have reached Senior finals in that time also.

The 11/12 week break to Leinster isn't ideal, but the benefits of the split season far outweigh that negative for me.

Soon enough we will be back to 2 weeks on/off, where hurling will have to compete again against football, soccer and rugby. Playing numbers will drastically drop, but suppose it's all worth it if MLR/St Mullins might win the odd game in Leinster.

TaosHum (Carlow) - Posts: 249 - 12/08/2024 08:50:46    2564693

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Replying To Skippy2:  "I can 100% see your point.
I just feel the whole thing is geared up for the football champions, they will get a lovely run into the 1st round of leinster.
While our best hurlers are getting flogged week in week out.
And still end up not being tested going into the 1st round of leinster ( 11 week break)
When it's all said and done, it's doing nothing to improve Carlow club hurling.
Surly they could have looked at pushing back the football by a week."
Skippy, By any chance do you now have an EP ticket for sale now??

Repeat1944 (Carlow) - Posts: 8 - 12/08/2024 09:49:00    2564706

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Replying To Overthebar53:  "Well said skippy. Absolute disgrace asking amateur players to complete this kind of schedule. This farce has got to end. What's this big rush about anyway. Winners will be waiting 8 or 9 weeks til their leinster game.And so what if it overlaps with football championship. It's just 2 clubs, one inter and one senior and it shouldn't be beyond the wit of man to accommodate them . Carlow county board tho.....different story."
What nonsense is this?

Most of the players involved also play football.

So if you push hurling back a week, you end up condensing their football schedule. So it ends up having the same effect,

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 711 - 12/08/2024 09:58:06    2564708

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Really enjoyable game yesterday, end to end stuff. Atmosphere at the game was great too with passionate support for both teams. As a neutral I'm delighted there's a replay! As regards the schedule, well the players were likely to know in advance. Delighted Burren Rangers got their win too, intermediate championship should be very interesting next year. There's definitely still plenty of quality in carlow club hurling. Hope the senior replay is a close one again.

Unusedsub (Carlow) - Posts: 88 - 12/08/2024 10:35:57    2564712

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Replying To TaosHum:  "It's amazing how people forget the state Carlow club hurling was in before the split season was implemented. Carlow Town and Naomh Brid were in continued decline, struggling to compete at Intermediate. Kildavin/Clongeal didn't exist and MLR/SM competed in the previous 5 SHC finals and we had FOUR Senior hurling teams in 2019.

Next season we will more than likely have 4 first teams competing at Intermediate, with BR, CT and KC all moving in the right direction. NB gave Senior a go, dropping back to Intermediate will be good for them to regroup and get some confidence back.

Bagenalstown and Ballinkillen have reached Senior finals in that time also.

The 11/12 week break to Leinster isn't ideal, but the benefits of the split season far outweigh that negative for me.

Soon enough we will be back to 2 weeks on/off, where hurling will have to compete again against football, soccer and rugby. Playing numbers will drastically drop, but suppose it's all worth it if MLR/St Mullins might win the odd game in Leinster."
"All worth it if mlr/mullins win the odd game in leinster "
Yes everything should be done to make sure those teams are prepared for a run at leinster.
Both those terms have being the flagship for Carlow gaa over the past 15 years.

Club hurling hasn't improved any with the split season, nothing has really changed.
Except K/C getting out a team.
And those player's would have been playing with B/K or Burren Rangers regardless.
It higher quality team's we need, lads will improve a lot more in that environment.

Skippy2 (Carlow) - Posts: 68 - 12/08/2024 10:41:28    2564713

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Replying To Skippy2:  "I can 100% see your point.
I just feel the whole thing is geared up for the football champions, they will get a lovely run into the 1st round of leinster.
While our best hurlers are getting flogged week in week out.
And still end up not being tested going into the 1st round of leinster ( 11 week break)
When it's all said and done, it's doing nothing to improve Carlow club hurling.
Surly they could have looked at pushing back the football by a week."
Why should football teams be punished because the county board cant run off a 5 team championship in due time, and talking about the long break, remember that the clubs voted for the hurling championship first, why not let the football championship take place first for a change.

Milfordwaterboy (Carlow) - Posts: 5 - 12/08/2024 11:01:52    2564720

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Replying To MLR:  "100% agree. I think that cost the rangers last year the fact they had such a break from the county final to leinster game. Genuinely think we have 2 of the best teams not just in leinster but the country. But whoever wins next week again will be hindered by the long lay off"
Make up your mind. You want it played ASAP but you're complaining about the long lay off.As I said earlier you're conflicted.

Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 270 - 12/08/2024 13:59:32    2564765

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Replying To Skippy2:  ""All worth it if mlr/mullins win the odd game in leinster "
Yes everything should be done to make sure those teams are prepared for a run at leinster.
Both those terms have being the flagship for Carlow gaa over the past 15 years.

Club hurling hasn't improved any with the split season, nothing has really changed.
Except K/C getting out a team.
And those player's would have been playing with B/K or Burren Rangers regardless.
It higher quality team's we need, lads will improve a lot more in that environment."
Well said. lots of waffle on here about standards improving. All I'd say to that is take a look at our underage over the last 10 years . Shoehorning the hurling into a 6 week slot is just mindless. No hurling for 3 weeks of August and all of Sept is suicidal. Anyone with the interests of the game at heart cannot justify this nonsense.

Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 270 - 12/08/2024 14:13:53    2564771

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