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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Anyone at the game last night?

Sounds as though Caolan McGonigle continued his good form. He deserves great credit for the way he has nailed down his starting place. I think it's fair to say he wasn't a glamorous name & maybe was underrated by a lot of people. But fair play to him. He has worked hard & as I said previously on this thread has been one of our better players the last few years.

Good to get another win & another game this weekend. Obviously there is more important silverware to aim for, but it'd be nice to win it at the same time.

Any word on Brennan & McClenaghan injuries? Hopefully just precautionary."
Listened to the game on highland but hard to really gauge off that. From what they were saying there OMFF and McGonigle were main contenders for motm. Derry had a young side out and sounded like both teams were going through the motions in the second half. The final will be on tg4 which I am happy about given its in Omagh (I'd have traveled if in Cavan or Armagh).

I did see the LYIT game yesterday versus UL. They were actually much improved compared to the Carlow game. The main difference was as you'd expect was David Clifford whom if he was playing for LYIT they'd have won by more of a margin which is a compliment in itself as Clifford wouldn't be the only one given a prosperous incentive in the form of a scholarship to play for UL. Jason McGee was excellent around the middle for LYIT with himself and Mogan along with Clifford, Dempsey and O'Sullivan from UL really standing out. The Sligo man Walsh inside played well for LYIT as did Conor O'Donnell but again didn't always take the right option. Hopefully that is something that will come with experience as in full flow he is a hard man to stop given his pace and power. LYIT were just lacking an x factor in the forward line. Walsh is a powerful lad but could've done with a pacey accurate skilful player alongside him. LYIT were also quite wasteful especially in the 3rd quarter when their Limerick counterparts were more accurate and kicked on. UL were better in the transition moving it swiftly and looking to go forward whereas LYIT were alot more lateral and deliberate which is not ideal when behind in a game. However they went more direct towards the end and were rewarded with a couple of goals which they deserved as the scoreline was probably flattering UL a bit.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 19/01/2022 12:17:35    2395582

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Anyone at the game last night?

Sounds as though Caolan McGonigle continued his good form. He deserves great credit for the way he has nailed down his starting place. I think it's fair to say he wasn't a glamorous name & maybe was underrated by a lot of people. But fair play to him. He has worked hard & as I said previously on this thread has been one of our better players the last few years.

Good to get another win & another game this weekend. Obviously there is more important silverware to aim for, but it'd be nice to win it at the same time.

Any word on Brennan & McClenaghan injuries? Hopefully just precautionary."
Delighted for caolan Mc gonagle if I'm right a certain poster on here called him a fourth division footballer not long ago. It's not just last night that he's played well he's been probably our most consistent player this last few years. Thompson had his best game this year last night . I wudnt read anything into the game last night only that winning is a good habit. Mc fadden ferry role last night was interesting he hugged the sideline a lot and looked extremely fit. The disappointing thing was the injuries Mc glenahan who could be a huge asset looked to be in pain after the game and Jamie seemed to go down with hopefully a dead leg but with injuries you never know I hope it's not his knee he started well last night. Shout out to mark Curran who started his first game and looked good. Be interesting to see team for Saturday with the college boys back .

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2392 - 19/01/2022 12:17:49    2395583

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Anyone at the game last night?

Sounds as though Caolan McGonigle continued his good form. He deserves great credit for the way he has nailed down his starting place. I think it's fair to say he wasn't a glamorous name & maybe was underrated by a lot of people. But fair play to him. He has worked hard & as I said previously on this thread has been one of our better players the last few years.

Good to get another win & another game this weekend. Obviously there is more important silverware to aim for, but it'd be nice to win it at the same time.

Any word on Brennan & McClenaghan injuries? Hopefully just precautionary."
I was there.The thing about McGonigle is that while he may not be the classiest player his football instincts are good,he is always positive and trying to break the gain line and he has that desire to stay in moves and get on the end of things.
McFadden Ferry was very good.I was begining to think that his good first year was sort of a one hit wonder.He put in a great shift,He came off and looked like he might have got a slight knock but he could have run out of gas as he did a serious amount of hard running.
Jamie Brennan looked very sharp and dangerous but unfortunately had to go off before half time.After the knock he tried to continue but wasn't able.It looked like a knee injury which could be a worry.
Watching McClennaghan come off,he didn't look very comfortable.Didn't seem to be lower limbs.
I didn't see what happened Langan,he went off very late.
As you probably have seen from reports the first half was good but the second was sort of meaningless.We had a lot of bad wides but some very good moves if maybe at some times a bit too intricate.
Eoghan Ban was good at full back with all the usual health warnings concerning the understrength opposition and the fact it was just the McKenna Cup.
Murphy seemed to be fit and running strongly.
McBrearty was terrible ,I don't think he touched the ball in first half.Maybe it was tiredness after his big shift against Antrim.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 19/01/2022 12:21:37    2395585

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Replying To panamasam:  "Listened to the game on highland but hard to really gauge off that. From what they were saying there OMFF and McGonigle were main contenders for motm. Derry had a young side out and sounded like both teams were going through the motions in the second half. The final will be on tg4 which I am happy about given its in Omagh (I'd have traveled if in Cavan or Armagh).

I did see the LYIT game yesterday versus UL. They were actually much improved compared to the Carlow game. The main difference was as you'd expect was David Clifford whom if he was playing for LYIT they'd have won by more of a margin which is a compliment in itself as Clifford wouldn't be the only one given a prosperous incentive in the form of a scholarship to play for UL. Jason McGee was excellent around the middle for LYIT with himself and Mogan along with Clifford, Dempsey and O'Sullivan from UL really standing out. The Sligo man Walsh inside played well for LYIT as did Conor O'Donnell but again didn't always take the right option. Hopefully that is something that will come with experience as in full flow he is a hard man to stop given his pace and power. LYIT were just lacking an x factor in the forward line. Walsh is a powerful lad but could've done with a pacey accurate skilful player alongside him. LYIT were also quite wasteful especially in the 3rd quarter when their Limerick counterparts were more accurate and kicked on. UL were better in the transition moving it swiftly and looking to go forward whereas LYIT were alot more lateral and deliberate which is not ideal when behind in a game. However they went more direct towards the end and were rewarded with a couple of goals which they deserved as the scoreline was probably flattering UL a bit."
That Walsh lad is Joel Bradley Walsh who I think plays with Sean Mc cumhaills so I presume he's from ballybofey. I know he plays soccer in the north.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2392 - 19/01/2022 13:06:46    2395593

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Enjoyed the game last night they worked harder than sat, mc ff ghosted the line most of the night and got more forward than last sat. Mcgonagle run his socks off and was everywhere, Shane o donnell was way more on the ball last night but I think he was playing the role Mogan does and therefore with peader missing he got far more ball, didn't look out of place at all. Curran had a very good game before going off but think thats more cause he's out for college tonight. Paddy was quiet but still deadly on the left and took some lovely points, Jamie showed very well last night think he took a bang on the kneecap which is sore to shake off.
Langan looked to tweak himself after sliding in for a ball hopefully not too bad. Ban was good considering the height of young tohill he was marking, that no 13 that went off was hitting lovely scores before injury think its Henry downeys son actually two of the downeys played. If he'd of stayed on he was a handful. Derry were very accurate when in scoring range and our boys missed a bagful in the first half, seen Hugh walking about with the lads before kickoff but not toged so hopefully not far away. The only thing I didn't like was Ryan roaring instructions to the sideline all evening. Enough bosses on the sideline. MM when he came in just controlled the rest of the game made us far more direct just a pleasure to watch.
Nice crowd there would say between 1500 to 2000.

Tyrion (Donegal) - Posts: 159 - 19/01/2022 13:43:32    2395598

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Replying To gunman:  "I was there.The thing about McGonigle is that while he may not be the classiest player his football instincts are good,he is always positive and trying to break the gain line and he has that desire to stay in moves and get on the end of things.
McFadden Ferry was very good.I was begining to think that his good first year was sort of a one hit wonder.He put in a great shift,He came off and looked like he might have got a slight knock but he could have run out of gas as he did a serious amount of hard running.
Jamie Brennan looked very sharp and dangerous but unfortunately had to go off before half time.After the knock he tried to continue but wasn't able.It looked like a knee injury which could be a worry.
Watching McClennaghan come off,he didn't look very comfortable.Didn't seem to be lower limbs.
I didn't see what happened Langan,he went off very late.
As you probably have seen from reports the first half was good but the second was sort of meaningless.We had a lot of bad wides but some very good moves if maybe at some times a bit too intricate.
Eoghan Ban was good at full back with all the usual health warnings concerning the understrength opposition and the fact it was just the McKenna Cup.
Murphy seemed to be fit and running strongly.
McBrearty was terrible ,I don't think he touched the ball in first half.Maybe it was tiredness after his big shift against Antrim."
By the sounds of things on highland Derry locked down Paddy much like the championship game last year.

Is Jamie Brennan in UCG or whatever they call it these days? They played last night and watched their game last week hoping to see him line out. According to Martin McHugh Oisin Gallen might play for DCU this week so something to watch out for. He is obviously injured as he would've been a certain starter for them.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 19/01/2022 14:08:35    2395604

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Replying To panamasam:  "By the sounds of things on highland Derry locked down Paddy much like the championship game last year.

Is Jamie Brennan in UCG or whatever they call it these days? They played last night and watched their game last week hoping to see him line out. According to Martin McHugh Oisin Gallen might play for DCU this week so something to watch out for. He is obviously injured as he would've been a certain starter for them."
I hope Paddy's performance last night was a one off.He got one point last night and that was a free.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 19/01/2022 16:51:27    2395641

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Replying To Tyrion:  "Enjoyed the game last night they worked harder than sat, mc ff ghosted the line most of the night and got more forward than last sat. Mcgonagle run his socks off and was everywhere, Shane o donnell was way more on the ball last night but I think he was playing the role Mogan does and therefore with peader missing he got far more ball, didn't look out of place at all. Curran had a very good game before going off but think thats more cause he's out for college tonight. Paddy was quiet but still deadly on the left and took some lovely points, Jamie showed very well last night think he took a bang on the kneecap which is sore to shake off.
Langan looked to tweak himself after sliding in for a ball hopefully not too bad. Ban was good considering the height of young tohill he was marking, that no 13 that went off was hitting lovely scores before injury think its Henry downeys son actually two of the downeys played. If he'd of stayed on he was a handful. Derry were very accurate when in scoring range and our boys missed a bagful in the first half, seen Hugh walking about with the lads before kickoff but not toged so hopefully not far away. The only thing I didn't like was Ryan roaring instructions to the sideline all evening. Enough bosses on the sideline. MM when he came in just controlled the rest of the game made us far more direct just a pleasure to watch.
Nice crowd there would say between 1500 to 2000."
Noticed that same player talking to the line a lot last night. Makes a change from him trying to ref games!

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 797 - 19/01/2022 17:16:52    2395645

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A lot of fair comments here on the Derry game last night. Mark Curran looked very accomplished for a debut starting berth. Mobile, composed, avoided the tackle and positionally aware. We need good defenders so here's hoping he pushes on. McFadden Ferry, McGonigle both excellent too. Donegal pushed up quite high and put Derry under a lot of pressure. Their keeper wasn't the regular one as I understand; he won't be there come championship, at fault for second goal and kickouts were poor. I felt defensively we put a decent amount of pressure on their attack, they earned their scores. This area needs constant improvement during the spring into summer.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1319 - 19/01/2022 20:20:16    2395668

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Replying To Tyrion:  "Enjoyed the game last night they worked harder than sat, mc ff ghosted the line most of the night and got more forward than last sat. Mcgonagle run his socks off and was everywhere, Shane o donnell was way more on the ball last night but I think he was playing the role Mogan does and therefore with peader missing he got far more ball, didn't look out of place at all. Curran had a very good game before going off but think thats more cause he's out for college tonight. Paddy was quiet but still deadly on the left and took some lovely points, Jamie showed very well last night think he took a bang on the kneecap which is sore to shake off.
Langan looked to tweak himself after sliding in for a ball hopefully not too bad. Ban was good considering the height of young tohill he was marking, that no 13 that went off was hitting lovely scores before injury think its Henry downeys son actually two of the downeys played. If he'd of stayed on he was a handful. Derry were very accurate when in scoring range and our boys missed a bagful in the first half, seen Hugh walking about with the lads before kickoff but not toged so hopefully not far away. The only thing I didn't like was Ryan roaring instructions to the sideline all evening. Enough bosses on the sideline. MM when he came in just controlled the rest of the game made us far more direct just a pleasure to watch.
Nice crowd there would say between 1500 to 2000."
Dunno what game you were at if you saw Paddy taking some lovely points. McBrearty scored one point from a free last night.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 463 - 19/01/2022 20:53:21    2395670

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Noticed that same player talking to the line a lot last night. Makes a change from him trying to ref games!"
He wasn't shouting to the sideline. It was clear last night that they are trying to defend narrow, closing up and protecting the area around the D. Probably because they were so open last year and conceded too many goal chances. Ryan was playing at number 6 and did a lot of the calling to get people into positions and getting them to move over and back as a unit depending what side the ball was on. If he wasn't playing somebody else would be doing exactly the same.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 463 - 19/01/2022 21:02:02    2395672

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Replying To greenfan:  "He wasn't shouting to the sideline. It was clear last night that they are trying to defend narrow, closing up and protecting the area around the D. Probably because they were so open last year and conceded too many goal chances. Ryan was playing at number 6 and did a lot of the calling to get people into positions and getting them to move over and back as a unit depending what side the ball was on. If he wasn't playing somebody else would be doing exactly the same."
I was at the goal end the other night and was sure paddy got a point in the first half at the river end easy mistake, but can't understand why your defending a number 6 who can't defend the back line himself but you think he's justified there to be barking order's to those around him. I was tending to ignore it for the best part but when a player starts calling to the line for a substitution of one of his fellow players and not for an injury I might add that's not on. There was Derry folk beside me even commented on it. No point in analysing a game here atall.

Tyrion (Donegal) - Posts: 159 - 20/01/2022 10:09:20    2395694

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reading some of the comment's above, you would wonder who is the real Manager in Donegal.

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 404 - 20/01/2022 12:01:07    2395721

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The final is on TG4. Great job. I won't be able to get to the match. Should be another useful game. Ideally Bonner would want a good competitive match & to avoid any injuries. Winning it will be a bonus.

Wonder how Mayo are shaping up? Oisin Mullen staying is a massive bit of good news for them. If there was a GAA transfer window he'd be the first player I'd get in for Donegal. Your full back for the next decade.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 21/01/2022 11:18:21    2395838

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I know lyit were beat the last but were plenty competitive and best of luck now against ucd. The dome is a great facility to have in mayo and a very cost effective way of having an indoor arena. Though it's pretty much a different game to being outside. There is some pile of running involved. Lyit certainly could have done with someone to control the tempo and remove the complete helter skelter nature of it. From county point if their were times when McGee really stood out in the first half. Mogan again impressive. Conor O'Donnell looked the better for playing further out though he does get turned over a bit too much. I'd be encouraging to not over think at and run hard at the opposition.

For the county it's hard to know. A very inexperienced Derry team but their all Ireland winning minors seem to be making a dent now and they must be confident when they get their full team back. Monaghan will be good and their underage talent of the last few years should be pushing through now as well. Hope the injuries are not too bad and hopefully no more picked up tomorrow.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 688 - 21/01/2022 13:13:38    2395862

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Jesus that was a desperate half of football from us. Things can only get better second half. I hope!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 22/01/2022 17:37:20    2395963

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Terrible first half from Donegal, I thought a few players seemed to lack intensity and shooting was terrible, also kick-out accuracy wasn't great with Patton missing. Monaghan were 6 points ahead at half time, but had Donegal's shooting been slightly more accurate, it probably would have been tighter at the break.Second half started with Monaghan extending their lead, until the impact of Murphy, McGonigle, Niall O'Donnell, Michael Langan etc changed the tide and Donegal having been 8 or 9 points down early in 2nd half pegged it back to 1 point.

I thought Brendan McCole had a belter, he did a job on Jack McCarron, definitely showing far more grit. Tony McClenaghan and Conor Doherty were solid, Ryan McHugh and Odhran McFadden Ferry showed intensity in first half.
Eoghan Ban Gallagher covered a lot of ground, despite playing corner back and Caolan Ward was solid despite not getting up the pitch much.

Good preparation for the start of the National League.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1106 - 22/01/2022 19:34:15    2395981

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Donegal lot better when bonner got put to the stands. To be arguing with a linesman over a line ball at a mckenna cup game is setting some example on what discipline standards we are setting. Rochford and Campbell seemed to manage it well and get us back into game. Says it all really and scary to be honest.

marty234 (Donegal) - Posts: 158 - 22/01/2022 20:21:41    2395986

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Decent run out. Shows the importance of Patton. How many of our kick outs did we lose when they pressed high on us.? Monaghan are no great shakes. When we brought on our bench, our class showed.
Overall a good campaign.

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1139 - 22/01/2022 20:34:17    2395989

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Replying To Commodore:  "Terrible first half from Donegal, I thought a few players seemed to lack intensity and shooting was terrible, also kick-out accuracy wasn't great with Patton missing. Monaghan were 6 points ahead at half time, but had Donegal's shooting been slightly more accurate, it probably would have been tighter at the break.Second half started with Monaghan extending their lead, until the impact of Murphy, McGonigle, Niall O'Donnell, Michael Langan etc changed the tide and Donegal having been 8 or 9 points down early in 2nd half pegged it back to 1 point.

I thought Brendan McCole had a belter, he did a job on Jack McCarron, definitely showing far more grit. Tony McClenaghan and Conor Doherty were solid, Ryan McHugh and Odhran McFadden Ferry showed intensity in first half.
Eoghan Ban Gallagher covered a lot of ground, despite playing corner back and Caolan Ward was solid despite not getting up the pitch much.

Good preparation for the start of the National League."
Agreed. McCole was very good tonight. I wonder if it's a confidence thing with him? He seems a lot more assured now. Hopefully he'll get a good league campaign into him now.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 22/01/2022 21:01:30    2395996

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