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Hi greenfan: I see they threw hurling into the mix, nice way to discourage Karl from going for it. A parting shot from the silver fox.
AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 676 - 01/02/2024 13:49:00 2523672 Link 0 |
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Says the lad with 2 accounts who didn't know what was going on in his own county last year. Pot kettle.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8108 - 01/02/2024 14:24:33 2523685 Link 0 |
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I wonder how we're fixed this week in terms of selection. Will we see the likes of Langan and Gallen back? Without wanting to get ahead of myself, and not in any way underestimating Cavan, if we could get the win in Breffni it would really give us a great platform to go on and achieve promotion. So even early days, it's a big game so I wonder will Jim go full strength assuming we have a full deck? Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9515 - 01/02/2024 14:27:49 2523686 Link 0 |
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Still waiting hard on your proof for the "two accounts". Whenever you have it please be sure to share. peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1006 - 01/02/2024 14:46:30 2523688 Link 1 |
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A really poor decision and not unanimous as has been reported. St Eunan's and Naomh Conaill as a result of huge work they have done over the years have a 2nd team who are competitive in Junior A. It is such a backward step to now say those players have to compete in Senior B where they will be much too strong for every team (aside from possibly the like of Gaoth Dobhair or Aodh Ruadh on their day) and when it comes to the smaller weaker clubs will in all likelihood have a walk over. How is that the right thing to keep those players engaged and where is the challenge to push on? Ballyshannon have done huge work and won the Senior B last year but when was the last time Naomh Conaill / Eunan's didn't win a senior B? Maybe once in 10 years? Seems a very nasty thing to do to punish St Eunan's and Naomh Conaill because they're on an upward curve. A backward step for football in the county and shame on all those who supported it. Samsforthehills (Donegal) - Posts: 1073 - 01/02/2024 15:01:53 2523690 Link 2 |
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Have to agree, delegates still a real problem. We have a lot of people making football decisions who haven't got much of a notion or interest in football. #Politics over progress. ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 747 - 01/02/2024 15:24:29 2523692 Link 0 |
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Well said. Great post.
tidytownman (Donegal) - Posts: 298 - 01/02/2024 15:47:17 2523697 Link 0 |
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Yeah I'd agree. It might be a different story if they started to totally dominate the Junior A, but that hasn't been the case. I don't think Eunans got out of the group last year. I think they do add to the standard of the Junior A championship overall so it's perplexing as to why they think this is a good idea.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9515 - 01/02/2024 15:48:26 2523698 Link 0 |
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All other counties split the money the way it was intended ie if a club had a ladies football & Football they got 2 pieces of the 1M Pie and if they had a camogie they could have got 3 lots of money, Donegal didnt split it in the spirit JP had requested is poor form to put it mildly, only in Ireland could some people leave a bad taste after getting money like this. OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 717 - 01/02/2024 15:49:04 2523699 Link 0 |
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The whole structures of our league and championship needs to be looked at. Our clubs delegates told me that at the meeting the previous CCC secretary (even though they don't hold a position on the executive this year) was still calling the shots as to what is happening with our competitions. The Muff proposal seems as if it was aimed at St Eunans in particular which is not the best way to structure a competition involving 12 or more clubs. Our leagues and championships are becoming like the provincial championships now where only a few clubs have a realistic chance of winning anything and the others are asked to just turn up to give the impression that there is a worthwhile competition taking place. If we continue with this facade we will see smaller clubs going to the wall. The reality of amalgamation at underage level is a sign of what's to come at senior level. The big clubs who don't see the need for change now will have to find the money to cover the monies lost from the small clubs who are no longer there. According to our delegate the proposals for the league were not properly dealt with as the Killybegs proposal was voted on first even though the Gaels proposal had been the first proposal on the agenda for voting. Are the same old organ grinders still playing tune. Whateveryourhavingyourself (Donegal) - Posts: 56 - 01/02/2024 15:54:20 2523701 Link 0 |
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The money should have been divided by units, a unit being football/hurling/ladies foorball/ camogie. An equal share for each unit. So if a club had football/hurling/ ladies they would get three units. If they only had fooball and ladies they get two units and so on. The fairest way and each unit gets the same. jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 447 - 01/02/2024 16:30:56 2523707 Link 0 |
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They will definitely raise standards even if they are not going to automatically be in line to win it although Naomh Conaill were very close to a big upset this year. these clubs in all likelihood have better access to coaching and probably more players off the county underage conveyor belt so will be bringing that to the table too and the other clubs in Junior A then need to really refocus and that will push them on. The Junior A has been a good competitive compeition in recent years and both St Eunan's and Naomh Conaill have added too it. There is an obvious issue around grading but not a difficult thing to fix - the structures / hierarchy of the championship should be obvious, all your A comps in order and then your B comps after that. If you play any A you can't play any B (but if you play Junior A you should still be able to play 'up' in Senior A / Intermediate provided not on first 12 or already burned.) Some of the delegates have been there too long and too be honest, some fresh blood and fresh ideas are badly needed. A lot of rightful focus on the actual county executive needing an overhaul in the past 12 months , and I know these people are volunteers and giving their time - but the same should be said for the delegates. Samsforthehills (Donegal) - Posts: 1073 - 01/02/2024 16:36:34 2523710 Link 1 |
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As you say big two points. Win this and your on 4 with three home games to come..that would get you up I feel with a good score difference which we already have. Huge game.
TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1193 - 01/02/2024 17:05:38 2523718 Link 0 |
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Excellent point about the delegates. Maybe they should only be allowed a maximum of 5 years as well in their roles.
ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 747 - 01/02/2024 17:12:10 2523721 Link 0 |
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Perhaps he should have added those stipulations as conditions before money could be released, seems he didn't, so each County board had the right to decide. I can't help but be suspicious when a super wealthy person who is heavily investing in sport in one County then starts handing out cash to every County in the Country, feels like they are trying to buy something, maybe silence potential critics who might complain about the amounts of money pumped into one County. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1193 - 02/02/2024 13:40:25 2523856 Link 1 |
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Just thank the man and move on, I don't see anyone else being so generous to the GAA clubs, fair play to JP.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3009 - 02/02/2024 16:03:09 2523882 Link 0 |
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With this post you are placing yourself in the small minded irish begrudger category. Giveaway 32 million to keep the begrudgers silent??? Seems a bit extreme! Personally I would be worried how some are using the benefit of the jp windfall, are they investing in their youth or are they throwing it away an overpaid senior in the pursuit of a championship that only one team can win every year anyway.
totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 993 - 02/02/2024 16:07:05 2523884 Link 0 |
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My view was proved right and Whestofthewest and foreverblue said I was talking rubbish or not to get carried away.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3479 - 02/02/2024 16:46:56 2523894 Link 0 |
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I did the math on this and whether you do it by club in total (the way they did it) or by GAA clubs + LGFA +Camogie (LGFA proposal) makes very little difference to the vast majority of clubs. 37 clubs who offer GAA + LGFA would actually get little over a thousand euro more each. But that would be at the expense of 4 clubs who only offer one sport club - 2 mens football only clubs, setanta hurling club and the camogie club (closely aligned with setanta but different (as I understand it). Those clubs would get half what they are getting under the system the county board used. I think it would be poor form to financially penalize the hurling and camogie clubs as well as 2 football clubs who maybe only don't have a LGFA team due to low population or whatever. A lot of club expense are pretty fixed, no matter how many teams you have. Remember the LGFA were not including hurling in their argument. They were lumping hurling and football together under 'GAA club'. As I under stand it, the LGFA proposal would mean for the 37 dual clubs (based on the one club model where LGFA are a sub committee) the LGFA sub committee would get half the funding, and the other half would have to cover the rest of the club (football, hurling, score, handball- whatever else). If I was on the executive in that situation, first thing I would do is put a levi on the LGFA sub committee for contribution to pitch / clubhouse whatever other expenses I could think of. LGFA should think more about working with the GAA clubs they are affiliated to rather than against them himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 02/02/2024 17:19:24 2523899 Link 0 |
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I don't know what club you are affiliated to, if any, but you are entitled your opinion. 39 Clubs in Donegal are run on the One Club basis so your argument makes no sense. The Club's in Donegal democratically voted to allocate the money on the One Club basis.
Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 407 - 02/02/2024 18:53:32 2523912 Link 0 |