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Replying To rorysboys:  "I think it was the executive vote that got the chairman in. I think that's the biggest problem. They seem all to vote the same way. A lot of votes there."
Are the members of the County Executive/County board's names published each year? I'm not asking for names to be listed here, but I would like to search for a list of the full County Executive/board membership for the last 20-30 years and see who is and was on it, how long some people have been hovering around it, how would I go about that?

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1332 - 12/06/2023 07:50:14    2485675

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Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal:  "Did anyone see John Haran's tweet tonight :

"Mike a young lad on the Donegal Panel was thrown off it yesterday after training because he played 30 minutes with his Club on Friday evening. He has played 30 minutes of football since April 27th. Tried to call the Manager to ask permission but no answer. Terrible carry on."

Shocking. Wondering who the player is?"
Kieran Tobin

eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1687 - 12/06/2023 09:04:51    2485684

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Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal:  "Did anyone see John Haran's tweet tonight :

"Mike a young lad on the Donegal Panel was thrown off it yesterday after training because he played 30 minutes with his Club on Friday evening. He has played 30 minutes of football since April 27th. Tried to call the Manager to ask permission but no answer. Terrible carry on."

Shocking. Wondering who the player is?"
The player played without clearing it with the county manager. He knew the situation when he joined the panel, he knew he wouldn't play club league. There has to be discipline, players can't just decide to play in a club game when it suits them. It's not like the club in question are short of players. There are many smaller clubs out there having to manage in the league without their county panellists.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 620 - 12/06/2023 09:17:12    2485691

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Replying To greenfan:  "The player played without clearing it with the county manager. He knew the situation when he joined the panel, he knew he wouldn't play club league. There has to be discipline, players can't just decide to play in a club game when it suits them. It's not like the club in question are short of players. There are many smaller clubs out there having to manage in the league without their county panellists."
110%, Milford, Killybegs and St Nauls are particularly hard hit this year..

beidhmeanseo (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 12/06/2023 09:51:18    2485713

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Replying To beidhmeanseo:  "110%, Milford, Killybegs and St Nauls are particularly hard hit this year.."
Killybegs and Milford are playing in a higher division than St. Nauls. Killybegs almost certain to go down now while Milford could slip into bother.

If a club with their pick can't get out of the basement division there's something badly wrong

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1181 - 12/06/2023 11:01:40    2485753

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saw Fanad and Milford playing yesterday, young fella for Fanad , not sure who he is, best left foot I've seen in a while. Put over a couple 45's and 2 points from play with the outside of the boot, one from way out at the 45. Also, the best foot passer I've seen in a long time. Great to see players who want to kick the ball and not just pass it to the man beside them.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 620 - 12/06/2023 11:33:06    2485767

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Replying To greenfan:  "The player played without clearing it with the county manager. He knew the situation when he joined the panel, he knew he wouldn't play club league. There has to be discipline, players can't just decide to play in a club game when it suits them. It's not like the club in question are short of players. There are many smaller clubs out there having to manage in the league without their county panellists."
It's a load of bs, kilkenny and other counties allow lads to playwith their clubs between county matches, donegal get more fellas injured at county training than playing for the clubs. Particularly in relation to lads on wider panel. Killybegs will be relegated because their 3 best players are Unavailable to them for the whole league.

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1043 - 12/06/2023 11:40:28    2485772

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Replying To Commodore:  "Are the members of the County Executive/County board's names published each year? I'm not asking for names to be listed here, but I would like to search for a list of the full County Executive/board membership for the last 20-30 years and see who is and was on it, how long some people have been hovering around it, how would I go about that?"
You must have time on your hands, I wouldn't be bothered if I were you..

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1043 - 12/06/2023 11:41:47    2485774

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Replying To eunans4ever:  "Kieran Tobin"
I agree, I think it's ridiculous carry on, although John haran only ever puts his head above the parapet to criticise others, a pity that one of the most decorated club players in donegal can't see past his own club. It's easy to be the hurler in the ditch, people like him could step forward and be part of the solution.

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1043 - 12/06/2023 11:52:53    2485784

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Replying To totalrecall:  "It's a load of bs, kilkenny and other counties allow lads to playwith their clubs between county matches, donegal get more fellas injured at county training than playing for the clubs. Particularly in relation to lads on wider panel. Killybegs will be relegated because their 3 best players are Unavailable to them for the whole league."
I agree, players should be allowed to play with clubs, they would be sharper and up to match fitness when called upon to play for the county. Its crazy having players only training for 6 months of the year and maybe not get one minute of game time. However, whether we like it or not, agree or disagree with it, that's how it is and how it has been for years. They are told not to play with the club. The player and club in question would have known that , so why go ahead and play, knowing that he didn't have clearance from the county manager?

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 620 - 12/06/2023 12:10:29    2485791

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Replying To Commodore:  "Are the members of the County Executive/County board's names published each year? I'm not asking for names to be listed here, but I would like to search for a list of the full County Executive/board membership for the last 20-30 years and see who is and was on it, how long some people have been hovering around it, how would I go about that?"
The current crop - https://donegalgaa.ie/county-board/

2016 - https://donegalgaa.ie/donegal-executive-2016/

2011 - https://sportsmanager.ie/cake/gaa2/newdonegal/contentPage/10715/county_board_executive

if that helps?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9730 - 12/06/2023 12:20:39    2485796

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "The current crop - https://donegalgaa.ie/county-board/

2016 - https://donegalgaa.ie/donegal-executive-2016/

2011 - https://sportsmanager.ie/cake/gaa2/newdonegal/contentPage/10715/county_board_executive

if that helps?"
Some of our current county board have been there since the early 90's!

PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 154 - 12/06/2023 15:50:08    2485914

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The player in question initially text the manager who then said he would call him back on the matter . He never did so further calls were made and never answered. The player must have knew himself he would probably land himself in bother. Not excusing O Rourke either. Dreadful communication.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8354 - 12/06/2023 22:23:00    2486070

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "The player in question initially text the manager who then said he would call him back on the matter . He never did so further calls were made and never answered. The player must have knew himself he would probably land himself in bother. Not excusing O Rourke either. Dreadful communication."
The St Eunans management might have guided the young fellow a bit better.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1143 - 13/06/2023 15:35:13    2486239

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It's an honour to play for your county, but I know I wouldn't train like a dog all year without being either asked to play minutes for Donegal or allowed to play matches for my club. Move forwards not backwards. What's the point of being a sportsman if you're not playing sports, be you 12 or 32.

I feel sorry for Tobin, he's dedicated a lot of himself to Donegal, but he must have known that this would happen. I only hope he and any other man who has chosen to play with their clubs is satisfied with their decisions at the end of the summer.

Donegal's competitiveness is not hindered by players representing their clubs, and no manager should be allowed this power. This is not a recent problem, and it baffles me that the county board hasn't wrangled this authority off the weakest and most compromised management ticket we've ever had.

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 452 - 13/06/2023 16:38:30    2486259

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Replying To gunman:  "The St Eunans management might have guided the young fellow a bit better."
Listen multiple people in the wrong. O Rourke and Bradley are not fit to manager inter county so the players probably don't take them that seriously. I imagine Tobin wasn't too bothered about the consequences at this point.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8354 - 13/06/2023 18:53:10    2486305

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Replying To gunman:  "The St Eunans management might have guided the young fellow a bit better."
They definitely should have. They should have known this would happen. This is a player who was included in the match day squad for the Derry game.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 620 - 13/06/2023 20:27:24    2486325

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "The current crop - https://donegalgaa.ie/county-board/

2016 - https://donegalgaa.ie/donegal-executive-2016/

2011 - https://sportsmanager.ie/cake/gaa2/newdonegal/contentPage/10715/county_board_executive

if that helps?"
I checked Donegal County Board Executive for the years 2023, 2016 and 2011 so far from the links shared.

From what I can see, there are 5 names who have been on the Executive for that full 12 year duration. I don't think many have been there since the 90's, maybe one person at most, who might not be a voting member

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1332 - 14/06/2023 12:51:39    2486421

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Well we managed it again. Another mini-controversy to add to the pile. In fairness though, this is probably an issue affecting most other counties as well. I see Down have taken the opposite approach to us and are allowing their squad men play for their clubs between matches. It's risk vs reward. Yes they might pick up an injury, but they're getting match practice in that they won't get on the bench for Donegal. I'd be more inclined to let the lads play. You could just as easily pick up an injury in training.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9730 - 14/06/2023 14:28:46    2486438

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I think the Eunans manager should have known better. he is someone who played for the county for years and should have advised young player in his 1st year with county. The county will be over in just over a week, so no need for the controversy with season nearly over.

ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 748 - 14/06/2023 15:47:31    2486463

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