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Don't feed the child lads eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1687 - 08/06/2023 11:01:45 2484888 Link
Replying To greenfan: "Dunno what game some people on here were watching on Sunday judging by some of he posts. Anyone praising O'Rourke and Bradley for the work with the defence must have missed the fact that Derry could have scored 6 goals and how they opened up our defence multiple times. Also, in terms of fitness, our players are nowhere near the fitness levels of the top teams. Derry players looked fresh at the end of the game while many of our players were struggling for the last quarter, many of them cramping up." A good lot of those goal chances were created when our legs were gone though. I agree totally that we are behind the top teams in terms of fitness currently. I thought in the earlier parts of the game we defended ok and forced a few good turnovers. Whilst I agree somewhat with rorysboys about us not having the same calibre of defenders as before, I don't think it's as cut and dry as saying, "well we don't have top quality defenders anymore so we may forget about it" In the modern game there isn't as much one-on-one marking anymore. If we consider the players we do have, say for league 2024... McCole, Curran, McColgan, McMenamin, McFadden-Ferry, Ward, Morrison (possibly), Gallagher, E O'Donnell, O Doherty etc...there's no reason with the right coaching, and a serious bank of fitness, S&C work that we couldn't mould a solid enough defensive system. I realise the above goes against what I said earlier in the thread about a preference for a return to more one-on-one style football, but that is unlikely to happen in the near future. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9730 - 08/06/2023 11:20:30 2484894 Link
Replying To Scenicparish: "If you watched Naomh Conaill matches on a regular basis you would see the manager slowly integrates the young players into the team. To have so many older players still playing at the top level is an absolute credit to them and the club in general. There is no aminosity between players as you are implying. We at Naomh Conaill are one big family and we must be doing all right when we are current County Champions........." We'll agree to disagree ,rorysboys is seldom wrong. Have a nice day. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2604 - 08/06/2023 11:37:54 2484898 Link
county board not fit for purpose is confirmed by review. money not accounted for and not able to be traced. time for whole new county board to step up and get Donegal GAA back on track. ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 748 - 08/06/2023 17:35:02 2485000 Link
Replying To ryan: "county board not fit for purpose is confirmed by review. money not accounted for and not able to be traced. time for whole new county board to step up and get Donegal GAA back on track." Can anyone shed any light on where they see this playing out from here? Will these recommendations be enacted by the same people who caused the mess in the first place? If so, utter waste of time. The report doesn't make for good reading and if particular individuals had any integrity they would now be stepping away. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1401 - 08/06/2023 21:57:59 2485044 Link
Draw made last night. What's everyone's thoughts on the new system for the seniors? tickets (Donegal) - Posts: 103 - 09/06/2023 08:00:32 2485060 Link
Replying To tidytownman: "Sensitive? Don't make me laugh. Nobody can mention the Bonner name on here without you going into meltdown." I seem to be annoying a few sensitive souls from glenties. Only stating facts lad. Sad day when you can't gave an honest opinion. The week after a defeat is the worst time to gave an opinion about n Conal. Sorry for any offence caused lads it wasn't meant to belittle yous. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2604 - 09/06/2023 08:53:05 2485063 Link
The second that the Seniors are out of the championship there should be an EGM. Also again from watching the county championship draws last night, Donegal has the weirdest senior championship in the world bar none.....A lot of work required in the background in the next few years KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 269 - 09/06/2023 09:09:42 2485066 Link
Cant really blame the County Board Officials, they are elected each year by the Club Delegates to County convention. Clubs have to get their house in order first . Clubs need to send right persons to County Board meetings and instruct these delegates on the way they want them to vote and what to say at County Board Meetings. The GAA is the Clubs and the Clubs are the members of that Club. Q.E.D. the members have to become more involved. jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 475 - 09/06/2023 09:29:52 2485073 Link
I read through some of the points published yesterday, definitely a number of alarm bells ringing. "An Interim Head of Operations will be appointed from Ulster GAA/Central GAA to work closely with Donegal Management and County Committees to begin implementation of the recommendations of the report." Good idea, but it does suggest they don't trust Donegal GAA County board or committee to oversee this themselves. "Some members of County Committee are employed or consultants of County Committee, which affects the integrity of decision making, so there should be a Declaration of Interest agenda item at each meeting." This statement is worrying, something dodgy sounding by this. "There have been no significant fundraising initiatives since December 2020 which has affected the County's ability to fund its commitments." This is criminal, this confirms what the Academy leaders had said. I think there is definitely enough in this published report for Clubs to bring a vote of no confidence in the current board and the Committee, as this mismanagement has seemingly been going on for many years and the same people seem to be constantly hovering in the background. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1332 - 09/06/2023 09:45:35 2485076 Link
Replying To jacktheboy: "Cant really blame the County Board Officials, they are elected each year by the Club Delegates to County convention. Clubs have to get their house in order first . Clubs need to send right persons to County Board meetings and instruct these delegates on the way they want them to vote and what to say at County Board Meetings. The GAA is the Clubs and the Clubs are the members of that Club. Q.E.D. the members have to become more involved." The County board and executive committees are to blame, its black and white, some of the stuff published is shocking, even though an attempt has been made to soften the criticism. While clubs may elect delegates, its obvious now that the days of electing finger painter Paddy Joe, because his two brothers and sister-law are on the Club Board needs to end, as its holding Donegal football back. People need to be elected who know what they are doing. No fundraising since December 2020?? While that is shocking, it doesn't surprise me unfortunately, as I heard stories from a few years ago when a fan enquired about donating money to Donegal County Treasurer a number of years back, similar to what Club Tyrone were about, where like 500 fans would donate €1000 per year for a couple of years to raise funds for Centre of Excellence and to fund the teams. Treasurer never responded to him. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1332 - 09/06/2023 10:00:21 2485080 Link
The big job as always is getting the right people in. The reason these people are on the board is because they're nominated by clubs. Nobody wants these jobs and would you blame them. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2604 - 09/06/2023 11:06:32 2485093 Link
Replying To rorysboys: "The big job as always is getting the right people in. The reason these people are on the board is because they're nominated by clubs. Nobody wants these jobs and would you blame them." This is true. There are probably lots of very capable people within the county who would undoubtedly do a better job than what some of the current board members are doing. But their day jobs, time, family & other commitments prevent them from getting involved with Donegal GAA. That's fair enough. We can give out all we like about the current set-up but unless better equipped people can be coaxed into, or are willing to volunteer their services then it's going to be difficult for the necessary changes to happen. @Commodore - I think the idea of the outside Operations Manager is a temporary role until such time as someone suitable within the county can take over. But the problem with that of course is see above.... Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9730 - 09/06/2023 11:36:15 2485096 Link
Have read the report from Croke Park and all I can say is that at best it is a holding position which allows those responsible for the both messes stay put and try to put it right. It's up to the clubs now to use the report as evidence and call for major change. Only then will all of this been worth it. PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 154 - 09/06/2023 13:29:25 2485117 Link
Replying To rorysboys: "The big job as always is getting the right people in. The reason these people are on the board is because they're nominated by clubs. Nobody wants these jobs and would you blame them." New people were nominated for some positions at the last AGM including a new man for the chair from Buncrana but clubs voted for the status quo. Until clubs stop letting the musical chairs continue nothing will change. We need new faces with fresh ideas and its up to clubs to make that happen. Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 461 - 09/06/2023 13:40:54 2485119 Link
Replying To Scenicparish: "New people were nominated for some positions at the last AGM including a new man for the chair from Buncrana but clubs voted for the status quo. Until clubs stop letting the musical chairs continue nothing will change. We need new faces with fresh ideas and its up to clubs to make that happen." I think it was the executive vote that got the chairman in. I think that's the biggest problem. They seem all to vote the same way. A lot of votes there. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2604 - 09/06/2023 14:02:34 2485122 Link
Replying To rorysboys: "I think it was the executive vote that got the chairman in. I think that's the biggest problem. They seem all to vote the same way. A lot of votes there." Not necessarily, there are enough club votes to change the status quo. Granted it would take over 30 of the 40 clubs but I think it's time the Executive monopoly was stopped for the sake of Donegal football going forward...... Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 461 - 09/06/2023 15:24:29 2485145 Link
I wonder if a similar investigation was carried out into other counties would the results have been much different or do yous think we are that much of an outlier. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1143 - 09/06/2023 16:30:00 2485154 Link
Replying To PeterQ92: "Have read the report from Croke Park and all I can say is that at best it is a holding position which allows those responsible for the both messes stay put and try to put it right. It's up to the clubs now to use the report as evidence and call for major change. Only then will all of this been worth it." In all honesty was anyone expecting anything radical to come out of this??....it stopped a vote of no confidence in county board...let things blow over a bit...the 2 pantomime villains remain in situ, and we still have no lacey or the 35 coaches! Groundbreaking stuff ladies... totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1043 - 09/06/2023 19:43:58 2485177 Link
Did anyone see John Haran's tweet tonight : "Mike a young lad on the Donegal Panel was thrown off it yesterday after training because he played 30 minutes with his Club on Friday evening. He has played 30 minutes of football since April 27th. Tried to call the Manager to ask permission but no answer. Terrible carry on." Shocking. Wondering who the player is? KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 269 - 11/06/2023 22:43:10 2485650 Link