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Replying To Commodore: "I guess this Croke Park investigation will get to the bottom of it, they are independent group sent in to try and understand the issues and assess what has actually gone wrong. Report is due by 31st May, so we should have an idea by then." Review????....its the GAA investigating the GAA ffs!!!....what do you think is likely to come out of it?? totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 998 - 03/05/2023 16:15:22 2475470 Link
Replying To Donegal_abroad: "100%. It honestly baffles me how some elements would like to protect those who are allowing this sad state of affairs to proceed. They haven't walked yet so it I wonder will they be shoved and the sooner the better." Agreed we have morphed into a gilead like state... totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 998 - 03/05/2023 16:17:55 2475473 Link
Replying To PolicemanFox: "Derry and Armagh look to be out of reach at the moment. I think Monaghan/Clare/Donegal will all be targetting each other looking for that crucial win. Home advantage could be important too. Looking forward to it anyway." Monaghan never worry about playing donegal, and o doubt this wretched outfit will causing Corey any sleepless nights... totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 998 - 03/05/2023 21:15:10 2475535 Link
Replying To himachechy: "I definitely agree with that. Clare are a very handy side and it looks like we will be away to them in the first round, then home to Derry and Monaghan in a neutral ground." We were lucky to get out of Ennis with win in 2019 in first game in league with a much better outfit than this one.....it pains me to say it but I can see us losing all 3 games... totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 998 - 03/05/2023 21:17:56 2475536 Link
Replying To totalrecall: "Review????....its the GAA investigating the GAA ffs!!!....what do you think is likely to come out of it??" Its the Central GAA investigating Donegal GAA Management due to the public natures of recent issues. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1212 - 04/05/2023 10:11:43 2475577 Link
Replying To Commodore: "Its the Central GAA investigating Donegal GAA Management due to the public natures of recent issues." with respect, I will be amazed if this anything other than a white wash, I don't believe that the findings of this investigation will present anything of a radical or groundbreaking nature in terms of it's recommendations. I would love to be proven wrong, but as I said earlier it is still the GAA investigating the GAA whatever way it is dressed up. totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 998 - 04/05/2023 10:37:11 2475590 Link
Replying To totalrecall: "with respect, I will be amazed if this anything other than a white wash, I don't believe that the findings of this investigation will present anything of a radical or groundbreaking nature in terms of it's recommendations. I would love to be proven wrong, but as I said earlier it is still the GAA investigating the GAA whatever way it is dressed up." What takes so long with these things anyway? you'd imagine the a week or two would be plenty of time, it's not like they are investigating the goings on at the Pentagon. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3057 - 04/05/2023 12:09:48 2475631 Link
Replying To Commodore: "I guess this Croke Park investigation will get to the bottom of it, they are independent group sent in to try and understand the issues and assess what has actually gone wrong. Report is due by 31st May, so we should have an idea by then." Yeah look fair enough, I will await the findings of that report like everyone else in hope. I suppose the fact that those who have done wrong know perfectly well that they are the root of the issue. They don't need a review to expose that, they just need to be dragged kicking and screaming out of their roles. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1388 - 04/05/2023 12:36:51 2475643 Link
Replying To totalrecall: "with respect, I will be amazed if this anything other than a white wash, I don't believe that the findings of this investigation will present anything of a radical or groundbreaking nature in terms of it's recommendations. I would love to be proven wrong, but as I said earlier it is still the GAA investigating the GAA whatever way it is dressed up." The GAA don't want negative national level publicity that questions the integrity of the organization, I think they know at this stage that there is no point trying to bury it, that tactic has already failed. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1212 - 04/05/2023 14:02:07 2475673 Link
Replying To Commodore: "The GAA don't want negative national level publicity that questions the integrity of the organization, I think they know at this stage that there is no point trying to bury it, that tactic has already failed." Remember, the motion from the clubs for members to stand down or be stood down was put on ice due to this investigation. No matter what this report says it is vital that the clubs do not accept it lying down and need to recall their demands. I know my own club are planning to do this, and all clubs must do likewise across the county. Those who were responsible for appointing the shambles of Carr/O'Rourke should go. Also those who made a mess of the academy also need to be rooted out. Equally if it's found that Lacey etc were at fault (and I'm hearing they were far from blameless) then this needs to be clearly on the record. Anything less is a white wash and clubs must stand up to that. The secrecy within the county board over the past few years has been staggering and this culture needs to end too. PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 118 - 04/05/2023 14:44:49 2475695 Link
Replying To Commodore: "The GAA don't want negative national level publicity that questions the integrity of the organization, I think they know at this stage that there is no point trying to bury it, that tactic has already failed." They really aren't as bothered as people might think, think back over the sky deal, Newbridge or nowhere, giving dubs 2 home games in super 8s, Kilmacud v Glen......the list goes on.....they like to say nothing and ride out the storm..... until tge media move on to somethingelse....., a passive aggressive stance if you like totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 998 - 04/05/2023 14:51:54 2475698 Link
Replying To totalrecall: "They really aren't as bothered as people might think, think back over the sky deal, Newbridge or nowhere, giving dubs 2 home games in super 8s, Kilmacud v Glen......the list goes on.....they like to say nothing and ride out the storm..... until tge media move on to somethingelse....., a passive aggressive stance if you like" Here, when the country is run the way it is, you can hardly expect the GAA to be a shining beacon of transparency and good governance. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9527 - 04/05/2023 15:21:30 2475714 Link
Replying To PeterQ92: "Remember, the motion from the clubs for members to stand down or be stood down was put on ice due to this investigation. No matter what this report says it is vital that the clubs do not accept it lying down and need to recall their demands. I know my own club are planning to do this, and all clubs must do likewise across the county. Those who were responsible for appointing the shambles of Carr/O'Rourke should go. Also those who made a mess of the academy also need to be rooted out. Equally if it's found that Lacey etc were at fault (and I'm hearing they were far from blameless) then this needs to be clearly on the record. Anything less is a white wash and clubs must stand up to that. The secrecy within the county board over the past few years has been staggering and this culture needs to end too." I agree with what your saying, I don't have links to either side in the Academy debacle and prefer to stay out of it at this point. I just want this independent inquiry to highlight and publish the failings, and then get the Clubs to review and make decisions on what changes are needed to sort out the mess. I find it hard to believe that any of the Academy coaches/staff or County Board members would purposely want to hurt Donegal football, my gut feeling is that it was more of a difference of opinion on how things should be done, which culminated in a breaking down of communication. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1212 - 04/05/2023 16:35:09 2475743 Link
Replying To Commodore: "I agree with what your saying, I don't have links to either side in the Academy debacle and prefer to stay out of it at this point. I just want this independent inquiry to highlight and publish the failings, and then get the Clubs to review and make decisions on what changes are needed to sort out the mess. I find it hard to believe that any of the Academy coaches/staff or County Board members would purposely want to hurt Donegal football, my gut feeling is that it was more of a difference of opinion on how things should be done, which culminated in a breaking down of communication." I would be very impressed from what I have seen of players in past few years that have been called up to academy teams. I have seen first hand how it has brought players on. The only issue I see and hope it is addressed before the academy is back up and running, is the unavailability of academy players for club matches. It's bad enough that we lose our county senior players for most of the year, but to see that happening at underage level is disheartening. Apart from that, the sooner the academy is back up and running (who ever it is running it) the better KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 269 - 04/05/2023 23:09:57 2475811 Link
Replying To PeterQ92: "Remember, the motion from the clubs for members to stand down or be stood down was put on ice due to this investigation. No matter what this report says it is vital that the clubs do not accept it lying down and need to recall their demands. I know my own club are planning to do this, and all clubs must do likewise across the county. Those who were responsible for appointing the shambles of Carr/O'Rourke should go. Also those who made a mess of the academy also need to be rooted out. Equally if it's found that Lacey etc were at fault (and I'm hearing they were far from blameless) then this needs to be clearly on the record. Anything less is a white wash and clubs must stand up to that. The secrecy within the county board over the past few years has been staggering and this culture needs to end too." I agree with what your saying, I don't have links to either side in the Academy debacle and prefer to stay out of it at this point. I just want this independent inquiry to highlight and publish the failings, and then get the Clubs to review and make decisions on what changes are needed to sort out the mess. I find it hard to believe that any of the Academy coaches/staff or County Board members would purposely want to hurt Donegal football, my gut feeling is that it was more of a difference of opinion on how things should be done, which culminated in a breaking down of communication. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1212 - 05/05/2023 07:02:35 2475817 Link
Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal: "I would be very impressed from what I have seen of players in past few years that have been called up to academy teams. I have seen first hand how it has brought players on. The only issue I see and hope it is addressed before the academy is back up and running, is the unavailability of academy players for club matches. It's bad enough that we lose our county senior players for most of the year, but to see that happening at underage level is disheartening. Apart from that, the sooner the academy is back up and running (who ever it is running it) the better" You make a good point, one that is also applicable to Senior squad players who aren't getting game time, they should also be free to line out for the Clubs. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1212 - 05/05/2023 13:48:32 2475915 Link
Replying To Commodore: "You make a good point, one that is also applicable to Senior squad players who aren't getting game time, they should also be free to line out for the Clubs." It's wrong in senior intercounty but it's been going on for donkeys years all around the country. This craic with the underage players is creeping in the past few years....it needs addressing now KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 269 - 05/05/2023 15:38:50 2475941 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "Here, when the country is run the way it is, you can hardly expect the GAA to be a shining beacon of transparency and good governance." My point being I don't expect anything from the gaa on this one! totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 998 - 05/05/2023 21:49:09 2476004 Link
Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal: "It's wrong in senior intercounty but it's been going on for donkeys years all around the country. This craic with the underage players is creeping in the past few years....it needs addressing now" My fear would be with the professionalism in GAA at the moment that before it will go down the route of rugby in the country. County players will play solely for their county and the club game will suffer as a result. peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1066 - 06/05/2023 11:50:59 2476045 Link
Can anyone on this forum please explain to me, how Bundoran can enter a Third team in Division 4 adult football, but don't have a Reserve team ? KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 269 - 06/05/2023 22:43:53 2476227 Link