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I understand the countys Games Development manager is extending his sabbtical to go and coach a club in New York for the summer. Optics don't look great on this one given the state the Academy is in at the moment. peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1074 - 28/04/2023 14:03:12 2474389 Link
Replying To Mid Don: "But if the management teams were reporting (grouped) to Karl then surely they should have been following his programmes for both training and conditioning." no coincidence all the current minor crop had two years under lacey's academy totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1000 - 28/04/2023 15:53:50 2474418 Link
Replying To Mid Don: "But if the management teams were reporting (grouped) to Karl then surely they should have been following his programmes for both training and conditioning." The u20s panel didn't get together until late December. They did very little conditioning, they just trained. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 586 - 29/04/2023 08:41:50 2474463 Link
Replying To totalrecall: "no coincidence all the current minor crop had two years under lacey's academy" The conditioning is clear to be seen in that team. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 586 - 29/04/2023 12:29:47 2474496 Link
If the current GDM does not commit to returning at a given date, then he should be removed. We don't have time to waste. SignTheContract (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 29/04/2023 13:33:31 2474504 Link
Replying To totalrecall: "no coincidence all the current minor crop had two years under lacey's academy" Didnt do them much good today, suppose some on here will blame Barrett for todays defeat. jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 452 - 29/04/2023 16:11:33 2474538 Link
Derry weren't long showing our minors up. A tanking. Disappointing to see. TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1194 - 29/04/2023 16:32:44 2474539 Link
Replying To TheRock2121: "Derry weren't long showing our minors up. A tanking. Disappointing to see." Might be best thing to happen them. Back to earth, work to be done. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 586 - 29/04/2023 17:20:36 2474542 Link
Replying To greenfan: "Might be best thing to happen them. Back to earth, work to be done." Derry and Monaghan beat Down by as much as we did so last weeks win was nothing to get over excited about.I noticed last week despite the big win we lost nearly every contested long kickout.Against a better team that could be costly.Even so I would think we are closer to Derry than we were to-day.To win Ulster we would need to be a lot better than we were at u-16 last year.I watched the Buncrana Cup Final against Tyrone last year and we were well beaten. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1126 - 29/04/2023 19:33:48 2474554 Link
Replying To jacktheboy: "Didnt do them much good today, suppose some on here will blame Barrett for todays defeat." Derry will have had players available since league encounter, their own academy isn't too shabby they are about 10 years ahead of us and went at looked at the limerick underage hurling academy and used that template totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1000 - 29/04/2023 19:40:41 2474556 Link
How come Donegal football teams are so bad this year ////////// highdropingball (Donegal) - Posts: 111 - 30/04/2023 02:30:41 2474638 Link
Replying To TheRock2121: "Derry weren't long showing our minors up. A tanking. Disappointing to see." Hugely disappointing performance. Donegal should not be getting hammerings like that. What is happening to our great county. Tyrone Derry are pulling away from us every year. Get our house in order quickly or we'll not be long slipping down the leagues. Rory g not that I have much time for him was chased out of this county too. Why I don't know . God be with the good old days where managers managed their team without the interference of social media.. if players are happy with a manager that's all that matters. Leave them too it.. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2580 - 30/04/2023 08:45:49 2474646 Link
Replying To totalrecall: "Derry will have had players available since league encounter, their own academy isn't too shabby they are about 10 years ahead of us and went at looked at the limerick underage hurling academy and used that template" Were they missing players when we bet them in the league ? TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1194 - 30/04/2023 10:15:06 2474662 Link
I took a week away from Social Media/Forum after last week. I was disappointed, and I actually thought there would be a lot of bull×××× here. I was pleasantly surprised that there was a lot of sense being spoken. The reality is that we are miles off it. I do a bit of stewarding, and I've actually been to most games in Ulster this year. The Derry team that we should have beaten last June are now many many miles ahead of us. Armagh, who were also relegated along are also away ahead of us. I suspect that they used the League as a training block where they didnt want to give too much away. Tyrone and Monaghan will emerge from the 3rd seeds in their groups over any of the 2nd seeds. The Down team, now a Tailteann Cup team, although starting to make shapes, are around our level. They beat us in Newry because they were fitter. Their game plan only worked when our legs were gone. That we were beaten by a superior fitness is a damning indictment of what our players have been at the last five or six months. Paddy McBrearty took the warm up in Newry, and if rumours are to be believed, he has been taking the training sessions as well. Not good enough. Michael Langan starting when he was obviously nowhere near fit just smells of pure desperation. We really need to get our house in order for next year. Hopefully the right people put their hands up for the greater good of the county, and arent put off by the negativity. And hopefully the clubs will instruct their delegates in the right course. SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 722 - 01/05/2023 13:03:48 2474901 Link
Replying To rorysboys: "Hugely disappointing performance. Donegal should not be getting hammerings like that. What is happening to our great county. Tyrone Derry are pulling away from us every year. Get our house in order quickly or we'll not be long slipping down the leagues. Rory g not that I have much time for him was chased out of this county too. Why I don't know . God be with the good old days where managers managed their team without the interference of social media.. if players are happy with a manager that's all that matters. Leave them too it.." Rory left after we got hammered off the field down in Sligo in 2017 by a young Galway side, after he departed, the discussion on here was that we were in transition and would need a few seasons to rebuild. Then U21 manager Declan Bonner took over and won back to back Ulster titles, Division 2 title and McKenna Cup in first 2 seasons, rebuild didn't take long, Bonner just had better player selection and system of play than Rory Gallagher. And not all players were happy with Rory Gallagher, in fact there was a lot of discontent during his reign. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1217 - 02/05/2023 10:01:20 2474953 Link
Replying To Donegal_abroad: "I listened to Martin's comments and he could have been more gracious to Down, definitely agree. He was angry about Donegal as many of us are, angry about the disintegration of our set-up, our competitiveness. Perhaps he was trying to make his point by stating we shouldn't be losing to Down. But he went a bit far. Down were deserved winners and are a great GAA county. Beautiful part of the world too." Donegal were bad. DOWN not much better..Mc Hugh was right 10DLSAM (Derry) - Posts: 266 - 02/05/2023 10:22:25 2474954 Link
Donegal will have to rebuild its going to take time we need a manager in for the long haul Derry came from Div 4 Armagh from 3 and look at Louth under Harte highdropingball (Donegal) - Posts: 111 - 02/05/2023 11:18:23 2474964 Link
Replying To rorysboys: "Hugely disappointing performance. Donegal should not be getting hammerings like that. What is happening to our great county. Tyrone Derry are pulling away from us every year. Get our house in order quickly or we'll not be long slipping down the leagues. Rory g not that I have much time for him was chased out of this county too. Why I don't know . God be with the good old days where managers managed their team without the interference of social media.. if players are happy with a manager that's all that matters. Leave them too it.." Social media does not dictate whether a manager stays or goes, results do. R GALLAGHER wasn't getting the best out of the players and had several disputes with players who deserved better. Maybe it was just a bit to early for him, and he has improved since then. I always laugh at people blaming social media for getting rid of management. If your a strong enough manager you would have the cop on to stay away from social media and ignore the negative feedback. Is there certain supporters that overstep the mark and it becomes to personal, yes there is, but there in a minority and you will alway get that. Anyone that gets personal and attacks and drags family into it, is not a real gaa supporter. However there is nothing wrong with 99 percent of the supporters who genuinely care for the county team and genuinely question where we are going under the management team. The County board need to move with the times and learn that Social media is also a way of better communicating with its support base, and not close the doors to the very people that fund the county. If you have nothing to hide, why not be open and transparent The keeper (Donegal) - Posts: 711 - 02/05/2023 12:21:49 2474995 Link
I know we're all very despondent at the moment and God save us things might get a lot worse depending on how the draw goes in a wee while. But things can quickly change if, and it's a big if, we can sort out our internal issues. We have good footballers and if they're given the right resources and coaching to succeed they're certainly capable of a whole lot better than they've shown in 2023. I've resigned myself to the fact that we're going to see a few more demoralising defeats in all likelihood in the next month or so. I hope we can then wipe the slate clean and immediately begin work to address the issues. It simply cannot be left to drift. 2024 won't be long coming around so we need to have our house in order early. Otherwise, as others have said we could find ourselves like Derry were for a number of years. We cannot fall into the trap of arrogantly assuming that no matter how bad things appear now, they surely couldn't get any worse. What you'll see happen then is that our best players will walk away and public apathy will accelerate. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9541 - 02/05/2023 12:36:41 2475001 Link
As good a draw as we could have hopped for. Not too much travel. Probably a case of beat Clare and you qualify out of the group in third. Monaghan are no world beaters either (although probably still better than us at this point in time!) himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 02/05/2023 13:33:14 2475046 Link