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Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal:  "Can anyone on this forum please explain to me, how Bundoran can enter a Third team in Division 4 adult football, but don't have a Reserve team ?"
Its their 2nd team or reserve as you call it or a 'development' team as they refer to themselves in killybegs.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 797 - 07/05/2023 15:42:53    2476409

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Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal:  "Can anyone on this forum please explain to me, how Bundoran can enter a Third team in Division 4 adult football, but don't have a Reserve team ?"
Was at the game yesterday, not much point entering the reserve comps, they'd get absolutely hockeyed in every game.

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 214 - 07/05/2023 16:03:40    2476431

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Its their 2nd team or reserve as you call it or a 'development' team as they refer to themselves in killybegs."
Surely the 2nd team should play in the reserve league. Is that not what reserve football is for? Means that reserve players from other clubs don't get a game on the weekend that their club is playing Bundoran

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 463 - 07/05/2023 16:13:32    2476434

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Its their 2nd team or reserve as you call it or a 'development' team as they refer to themselves in killybegs."
I think they are really tight on numbers, so much so that the first team were unable to field on Easter weekend. They haven't fielded a second team for a number of years, as Division 1/Senior Reserve was way too high a standard. I would say most Senior Reserve teams would be well able to operate in Division 2, meaning Bundoran's second team would be hammered every week.

However, I'm interested if a player can play for both teams, or if for example a young player playing regularly for the Division 4 team is used at Division 1 level, can he play Division 4 afterwards? I'd imagine not.

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 583 - 07/05/2023 16:44:16    2476446

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Well as expected Kerry dismissed Clare with a minimum of fuss yesterday. I have to say that while although I expected a comfortable Kerry win, I thought Clare would offer a bit more than they did. Maybe it was nerves or something I don't know but they kicked some terrible wides and their passing and ball-handling was way off. Really and truly, if things were right in Donegal we should be going down to Ennis and putting them away no ifs or buts.

But as we all know things are far from right. Unless the fitness and game plan have rapidly improved we're in for a tough game. Clare will surely not be as bad again. They'll be a tough nut to crack on their own patch and they'll fancy their chances of taking us down.

On a side note, what about the Cliffords? A very tough week for them no doubt but they went out and put Clare to the sword. Absolutely wonderful footballers and great ambassadors for our game. The ball Paudie played into David for his first goal was top class. Kerry started out the year slowly but they're fairly moving up through the gears now.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 08/05/2023 10:11:50    2476625

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Its their 2nd team or reserve as you call it or a 'development' team as they refer to themselves in killybegs."
They have no 2nd team. They are not in reserve league or championship. But they have a team in Div 4 ( third teams)...that's wrong. We (Killybegs) put a reserve team week in week out and get hammered most weeks.

We changed the name of the reserve team to the devolpment team because we tried to get rid of the negativity around word reserve or b team. But no days we can barely get 15 playing to tog doesn't matter what you call the team.

KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 269 - 08/05/2023 10:16:49    2476629

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Replying To SouthOfTheGap:  "I think they are really tight on numbers, so much so that the first team were unable to field on Easter weekend. They haven't fielded a second team for a number of years, as Division 1/Senior Reserve was way too high a standard. I would say most Senior Reserve teams would be well able to operate in Division 2, meaning Bundoran's second team would be hammered every week.

However, I'm interested if a player can play for both teams, or if for example a young player playing regularly for the Division 4 team is used at Division 1 level, can he play Division 4 afterwards? I'd imagine not."
St Eunans and Glenties reserves are miles ahead of everyone else and could operate in Div 2. McCools Gweedore and Glenfin would be ok, the rest would be limited.

A senior team has to declare 12 players at beginning of year, First 12. They can only play senior. If a team has three teams, then you have to name a Second 12 and those 12 can only play A+B.

So by right bundoran should have 24 players ruled out for third team, but it might only be 12 as they don't have a reserve team

KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 269 - 08/05/2023 10:21:35    2476635

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Replying To joeteor:  "Was at the game yesterday, not much point entering the reserve comps, they'd get absolutely hockeyed in every game."
Killybegs get hammered in most games too, going down to thirds isn't a solution, we could all do that and then the third team is full of reserve teams.
The whole senior / reserve system needs a shake up

KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 269 - 08/05/2023 10:23:20    2476636

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Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal:  "Killybegs get hammered in most games too, going down to thirds isn't a solution, we could all do that and then the third team is full of reserve teams.
The whole senior / reserve system needs a shake up"
Surely it's better that teams are in leagues where they are relatively evenly matched with the opposition. I played reserve for years and it was very hit and miss in terms of quality game to game.

Hard to know what to do about it. I like the idea of reserve football where club has two teams playing in the same place on the same day, that can allow some clubs to field two teams by juggling the players around. If it was changed a lot of reserve teams might fold, which would mean people missing out on football.

himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 08/05/2023 12:01:27    2476684

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Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal:  "St Eunans and Glenties reserves are miles ahead of everyone else and could operate in Div 2. McCools Gweedore and Glenfin would be ok, the rest would be limited.

A senior team has to declare 12 players at beginning of year, First 12. They can only play senior. If a team has three teams, then you have to name a Second 12 and those 12 can only play A+B.

So by right bundoran should have 24 players ruled out for third team, but it might only be 12 as they don't have a reserve team"
When I was a young fella (a while ago now) if you come on as a sub for the Seniors for the last minute, you were then automatically ruled out of Reserve Championship for the rest of that year, and the following year. As a result we had a couple of very good lads who point blank refused to tog out for the Seniors, which in turn led to a fall out between the Senior and Reserve Team managers. Both teams trained apart with small numbers, and led to a divide even between the players. Do you know if that rule is still in place?

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 583 - 08/05/2023 12:55:58    2476706

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Replying To SouthOfTheGap:  "When I was a young fella (a while ago now) if you come on as a sub for the Seniors for the last minute, you were then automatically ruled out of Reserve Championship for the rest of that year, and the following year. As a result we had a couple of very good lads who point blank refused to tog out for the Seniors, which in turn led to a fall out between the Senior and Reserve Team managers. Both teams trained apart with small numbers, and led to a divide even between the players. Do you know if that rule is still in place?"
Yes. The first 12 is for league and championship. Any player not on the first 12 and plays one second of championship for A team is barred from playing reserve team in championship. But a reserve player who isn't on the first 12 list and plays championship can still play league

KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 269 - 08/05/2023 14:45:01    2476758

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I see Johnny McGroddy played for Downings at the weekend. Wonder does that mean he's left the squad. Seem strange considering the lack of scoring threat in the team at the minute.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 463 - 08/05/2023 22:10:49    2476906

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Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal:  "St Eunans and Glenties reserves are miles ahead of everyone else and could operate in Div 2. McCools Gweedore and Glenfin would be ok, the rest would be limited.

A senior team has to declare 12 players at beginning of year, First 12. They can only play senior. If a team has three teams, then you have to name a Second 12 and those 12 can only play A+B.

So by right bundoran should have 24 players ruled out for third team, but it might only be 12 as they don't have a reserve team"
Yes I agree, I'd put Gweedore in the same bracket as Glenties and St.Eunans! Reserve football has changed since I played, back then it was for the old men and young minor. Now it's literally full of young lads which is good and why I had to hang the boots up!

Just a question in regards to grading and systems. Didn't St.Eunans not out all their eggs into the Junior A last year? Got knocked out and then a few men upgraded to reserve football in the semi? I would assume Junior A would be a higher standard than reserve?

tickets (Donegal) - Posts: 76 - 09/05/2023 08:08:02    2476921

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Clare is a team we should be beating despite all of our issues. Beat them and we'll qualify from the group.
Any word on how challenge games are going. I'm hearing we're playing a game a week.
Also heard that there has been a few more departures from the squad.

PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 104 - 09/05/2023 10:31:11    2476943

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Replying To PeterQ92:  "Clare is a team we should be beating despite all of our issues. Beat them and we'll qualify from the group.
Any word on how challenge games are going. I'm hearing we're playing a game a week.
Also heard that there has been a few more departures from the squad."
Based on league standings, Down are a worse team than Clare and we couldn't beat them.
Nothing to be gained from qualifying for a quarter final to possibly get a hammering. Better off out of it, let the current management move on straight away. Let the players go back to their clubs, get back to enjoying a few games of football.
If we could get a new management ahead of the club championship and let them start planning ahead for next year. Hopefully start with a clean slate.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 463 - 09/05/2023 13:46:29    2477028

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Replying To PeterQ92:  "Clare is a team we should be beating despite all of our issues. Beat them and we'll qualify from the group.
Any word on how challenge games are going. I'm hearing we're playing a game a week.
Also heard that there has been a few more departures from the squad."
Who has left ?

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1139 - 09/05/2023 16:12:11    2477072

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Replying To PeterQ92:  "Clare is a team we should be beating despite all of our issues. Beat them and we'll qualify from the group.
Any word on how challenge games are going. I'm hearing we're playing a game a week.
Also heard that there has been a few more departures from the squad."
I think Clare will see us as their best chance to win a game and get out of the group, especially in Ennis. I think we will lose all 3 games, much as it disgusts me to say it. We are a sinking ship currently, directionless.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1319 - 09/05/2023 17:06:57    2477092

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "I think Clare will see us as their best chance to win a game and get out of the group, especially in Ennis. I think we will lose all 3 games, much as it disgusts me to say it. We are a sinking ship currently, directionless."
Feels a little like Derry from 2016 onwards. Utterly directionless. Donegal need to be very careful they don't completely mess things up. Things could get a lot worse before they get better. I hope not because I like to see a strong Donegal.

Jazzyjeff (Derry) - Posts: 152 - 09/05/2023 18:37:52    2477120

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Replying To PeterQ92:  "Clare is a team we should be beating despite all of our issues. Beat them and we'll qualify from the group.
Any word on how challenge games are going. I'm hearing we're playing a game a week.
Also heard that there has been a few more departures from the squad."
Clare are better side than Down whom beat Donegal by a bit to spare. Not sure what Donegal have done with their break but they'll need a big improvement to win in Ennis.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3338 - 09/05/2023 19:26:19    2477126

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You'd wonder how Paddy Carr is feeling at the minute, bad as things are I'd rather it was Paddy there managing us rather than the current set up.
Really is disappointing that this season is written off in truth already, I hope they get things sorted out rapid for next year otherwise we could be heading for the doldrums for a lengthy spell.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2739 - 09/05/2023 19:41:37    2477130

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