Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2293 - 27/06/2023 10:02:05    2489886

Again another disappointment ending to the season. It's all good and well players shooting the lights in the league and then disappearing come championship leaving it up to 2/3 players to carry the baton. The majority of these players have enough division 1 experience by now. It's clearly not making a difference come championship where Clare last year and now Kildare and Cork this year. It's all good and well masking over the problem saying we were missing players but the same will happen again next year regarding players coming and going. I'm not sure is it a S and C issue or some players are going enough to bring this team forward.

hontherossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 125 - 27/06/2023 13:37:19    2490053

Now that the championship is over for another year, would anyone like to have a go at completing the following.
Players of the year (Include all competitions)
GOLD
SILVER
BRONZE
Young Player of the Year
Most improved player this year
Three young/not so young players for the management to keep a close eye on in the club championship.
1.
2.
3.
Only positive comments on the players please as we are all a bit down at the moment!!

Based on the the 13 league and championship matches played, I firmly believe that a couple of players should be nominated for an All Star this year and hopefully we might/should get one this year after many years. As there are much more matches played now and with no outstanding team so far, the All Star selection should not be based on just the semi-final and final matches.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 728 - 27/06/2023 15:04:55    2490103

TobeaRossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 164 - 27/06/2023 16:03:16    2490138

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4039 - 27/06/2023 16:17:06    2490148

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2293 - 27/06/2023 17:39:19    2490190

Haven't posted for a while due to working out of country but finally back home and managed to get to more away matches than I did hone matches.

Lot of positive moments throughout the early part of the season but once championship started things went downhill fairly rapidly after the win over Mayo. League is league and championship is a total different animal.

The old failings came back to haunt us in past two matches. Lack of options in key areas namely midfield, full back line to release Brian Stack higher up pitch and a focal point edge of square. Ironic that Cork got 1-3 from their bench on Saturday.

I see a number of posters on here saying the late appointment of management meant we missed out on a block of training. I don't buy that at all as we were back training on our allocated date and most players nowadays are on gym programmes all year round and I'd imagine that was the case after the Clare defeat last year. Monaghan were equally as late at appointing a manager and they are still going strong even though I thought looking at highlights Kildare should have won comfortably against them.

Enda Smith probably had his best season for a long time. Ciaran Murtagh was our main man all year and surely an all star nomination in waiting, Diamruid Murtagh looks like he is getting back to the form of early years, Brian Stack another good year, Niall Daly excellent up until Kildare match. Conor Daly amd Davy Murray along with Niall after nearly two years on the go with club and county also looked rejuvenated. Dylan Runae got better as year went on. Cian Mckeon up until last Saturday had come back strong but injury layoff probably caught up with him as levels and pace went up a few gears. So all in all those guys mentioned above didn't need any slogging during winter.

Looking ahead to next year and everyone assuming the likes of Ultan Harney, Ronan Daly, Cathal Heneghan, Tadgh O Rourke will all be back and a full season for Daire Cregg. Be great if that happens but I have my doubts simply when coming back at this level as seen with Eddie Nolans injury it tales nearly a year to get back. Ultan who had a terrific year last year following years of injuries, will his body be up to it after a year out highly unlikely. TOR coming back from a very serious injury will do well to get back. Cathal Heneghan hopefully he can play some championship for his club but again very injury prone. Ronan Daly would be a massive plus, a fit Daire Cregg is a starter with Ben coming in from bench. Hopefully James Fitzpatrick from Oran can have a good club championship and stay injury free would be a big addition to squad and particularly full forward. Adam McDermott will also feature but may only be a league player next season. Would like to see Colin Walsh tried at corner back for the league and so be it if he gets a trimming or two. We had a corner back who got roasted v Dublin and Cork. Talk of Shane Killoran amd Niall McInerney back also but let them play with their clubs first. Long time since they played at this level. Not forgetting we could have a few going other way. Niall Kilroy, Donie Smith and I hope he makes a speedy recovery from his injury last week. Again found wanting as a championship starter but him going off last week was a major disruption to the trend of the match. They took over from there on as they were bellowing for a black card. Got 3 pts on trot to swing the match. Niall Daly also may not be around. I also hear Ciartqn Murtagh is getting married in November and is also going travelling. Be a huge loss to Ross if he wasn't around next year.

Management will be reasonably pleased with their season but I thought their lack of experience was very evident past two weeks. Kildare with 13 men mudered us on kick outs when they were there for the taking. Last week very slow to introduce Keith Doyle when midfield was really struggling all day. Moved Enda Smith to midfield and Cork capitalised straight away widening the pitch knowing Enda wouldn't have legs to cover ground
Had to take Enda out of it after 10 mins. Putting Daire Cregg to wing back aftwr he scored a pt was crazy and O Driscoll won a crucial ball off him on a kick out. Conor Daly was roaring at sideline to get Cregg back up pitch. No plan B for full forward all year. Could have thrown Enda in there for 10 mins or Cian McKeon who was under pressure at wing forward. Ciaran Lennon who scored 2 pts in early stages v Dublin from edge of square hardly seen since. I said earlier in year the style of football e play won't win too many games. You won't be hammered nor you won't hammer anyone. Look at sligo match it took us nearly the hour to pull away. Dublin had them hosed after 20 mins.

We played 6 championship matches. Won 2 drew 1 lost 3 and beaten by two divison 2 sides and both were a long way from getting promoted to Divison 1. The win v Mayo owed as much to the week turnaround for them and their missed early goal opportunities as much as our work rate and tenacity. The game v Dublin while enjoyable had the feel of a challenge match and Dublin going through the motions. Yes we could have won it but then Dublin could have blown us away in last ten mins. Cork were by far the better team last Saturday if truth be told after the opening 30 mins. For Davy Burke to say it came down to them taking their goal chance while we missed two is far fetched. Cork had three clear goal chances all in 2nd half scoring 1-1. The last point which was fisted over was also a tap in goal if he squared it. They had missed a sitter when 3pts up when another kick out went askew and Davy Murray did well to get back to put him off and forward shot wide with goal at mercy. Ross got one goal chance with Diarmuids one. Endas in first half wasn't a goal chance as he was at the end of his run and over stretching to get shot away and should have put it over bar. There is no question that the management team sshould be there again next hear but I would like to see another experienced man preferably a Roscommon man also that would know the club scene. Looking in from.outside it appears Eddie Lohan has little or no input into team selections or changes.

All that said I'd like to thank the players and management for their efforts and commitment which involves huge sacrifices and time. Lot of.people don't realise what county level entails. The fact we are in Division 1 again next year is brilliant with the Dubs and Derry promoted it will be tye place to be. Probably have 4 away games to with possibly 3 up north. Be home for 3 games from Monaghan/Kerry/Galway/ one of the promoted teams.

SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 279 - 27/06/2023 17:56:24    2490203

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2402 - 27/06/2023 18:00:16    2490208

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 27/06/2023 18:43:28    2490224

D.Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 269 - 27/06/2023 21:37:51    2490255

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 27/06/2023 22:35:59    2490266

Know from talking to those involved smokie that we weren't back to training until November, no allocated dates was set out with Cunningham leaving in August and county board messing around until October to appoint a manager. Certain players do their own gym work but again no set programmes until Burke and his management arrived

From watching Monaghan at the weekend they looked much like ourselves but unlike us got on the right side of fine margin win against Kildare including a few odd ref calls in their favour. I'll be surprised if Monaghan overcome Armagh in what under normal under normal circumstances would be a 50/50 game.

It's a goal chance when a goalkeeper has to pull off a save and Martin pushed the shot out of danger also. The point from Davy Burke was more about timing of the goal chances. Had Enda hit the net we would have been 6 points clear and had Diarmuid scored we would be 3 ahead so the game could easily have played out a very different way if either was converted

Cork goal chances including the goal they scored came in our most nervy and error ridden period of the match. For the first 33 minutes of the match we were the better team but the 4 point lead did reflect how on top we were and only leading by 1 point at half time was blow and big boost to Cork. The final 15 mins of the contest again we were the better team outscoring them 5-1. In between Cork was the better team and that period allowed them set the platform to win with us aiding it with our errors however on Saturday it was most certainly fine margin contest that could have went either way and especially when you look at the winning score deep into added time.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4039 - 27/06/2023 22:45:17    2490270

GOLD - Enda Smith - one of the top performers in the country never mind roscommon - Best year in a primrose and Blue
SILVER - Brian Stack - Leader and marked all the best footballers in the country
BRONZE - murtaghs - scored heavily and it was the hardest working year for both
Young Player of the Year - Conor Carroll - Excellent in every game bar the last but i think we found our number one for the next couple of years

Most improved player this year- DYlan ruane did not think he was county standard but what a year he has had - amazing athlete. Ran himself into the ground week in week out

Three young/not so young players for the management to keep a close eye on in the club championship.
1. James Fitzpatrick - watched him in 3 league games back to his best after an ACL injury
2. Adam Mcdermott - very good forward may be a good option coming off the bench as i felt we got very little impact from our bench the last 2 games
3. Paddy Gavin - Mark Ward fuerty would benefit from being in and around the panel

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 789 - 28/06/2023 09:46:36    2490325

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2293 - 28/06/2023 10:21:25    2490339

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 28/06/2023 10:41:01    2490348

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7972 - 28/06/2023 11:01:41    2490361

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4039 - 28/06/2023 13:18:37    2490417

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2402 - 28/06/2023 17:11:36    2490486

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4039 - 28/06/2023 18:22:15    2490498

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2402 - 28/06/2023 20:02:46    2490516