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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Half the teams being eliminated in the Group stages in any Competition is exactly what's needed to make it Competitive.
If you want a whole scatter of teams in knock out stages just make it a knock out Championship."
I agree completely, but why should the divisional teams be given 2 places automatically, thats my issue... if they seeded the 4 semi finalists from previous year and had an open draw with the divisional teams included (4 groups of 4) then the top 2 teams in each group qualify... a fair draw... May the best team win then... if the divisional side is good enough to make the q/f then fair play to them, at least they would have earned it like everyone else

Rossie14 (Roscommon) - Posts: 33 - 13/12/2022 15:53:38    2450330

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "If only the Connacht Council had used their €10m share of the Croke Park rental from Soccer/Rugger to upgrade facilities in the Counties.
Instead it was all blown on a vanity project in Bekan leaving Ros, Galway and Mayo CBs to get into financial difficulties."
Bekan is of no use to anyone really. The indoor facility is very impressive but the outdoor pitches are ice boxes. We thought having it on our doorstep would be great but no…

Agree more funding should and could be provided to local GAA clubs to improve their facilities. Latest on Mayo "centre of excellence" is that is won't be built but instead the pitches behind the stand at MacHale Park will be developed and the facilities (changing rooms, meeting rooms, canteen etc) already in place under and behind the main stand will be used which is the correct decision in my opinion.

If Hyde Park got a new stand, changing rooms, toilets etc it would be a top class facility. Pitch is excellent. Held the minor all Ireland final this year no problem.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11561 - 13/12/2022 18:26:15    2450348

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "HQ and 90% of Congress."
Something that HQ was pushing for a long time which eventually got congress to vote their way. They are currently doing the same with U19 grade that nobody wants but HQ will get want they want.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3609 - 13/12/2022 18:38:15    2450349

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Bekan - Connacht Centre of Excellence was and is a complete joke that was built as a Monument to the Sectary of the Connacht council. No proper due diligence was completed as if it was it would have recommended not to proceed. The Funds for the Centre should have been redistributed to each of the Counties for their own Centre of Excellence. Instead, we are left with a facility that is costing a fortune to keep and is severally unused. You then have the counties of Connacht either unable to fund their own facilities or under massive debt putting their facilities in place.

Roscommon are in a bad way for facilities. From speaking to the coaches of the County development teams there is major frustration and unrest that they haven't adequate facilities or resources to complete at the highest standard. Trainings are continuously cancelled as either the clubs wont make the facilities available or they fall foul of the weather.
The idea of spending 4m on repairs to the Hyde before you have a Centre of Excellence is madness. Get the Centre of Excellence built then sort out the Hyde. There is only one place the Centre of Excellence should be which is outside Roscommon Town, at worst a few miles from the town. This County board and the previous board have a lot to answer for by not delivering the required facilities. Troubling times ahead for the county unless things on the facilities front quickly.

imformed (Roscommon) - Posts: 195 - 14/12/2022 10:58:11    2450381

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County board convention was on last night and it was confirmed that land just outside Roscommon has been required with a deposit paid for the COE with planning permission due early next year.

The Hyde will be done in phases and commencing early next year, it will remain open for NFL games while works are done.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4039 - 14/12/2022 13:14:26    2450396

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Something that HQ was pushing for a long time which eventually got congress to vote their way. They are currently doing the same with U19 grade that nobody wants but HQ will get want they want."
HQ never pushed the new system.
They half backed a proposal to Special Congress which failed to get the 60% weighted majority.
Then they looked at alternatives and everyone latched on to the new system which was based on proposals once suggested by Jim McGuinnes and Seán Kelly.

I still can't understand their drive for u19 instead of 17/20 or 18/21.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2293 - 14/12/2022 15:15:33    2450408

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "HQ never pushed the new system.
They half backed a proposal to Special Congress which failed to get the 60% weighted majority.
Then they looked at alternatives and everyone latched on to the new system which was based on proposals once suggested by Jim McGuinnes and Seán Kelly.

I still can't understand their drive for u19 instead of 17/20 or 18/21."
They pushed for the best part of decade to get rid of the U18 and U21 grades. It's in their interest not to return to those grades as it will show them up to be wrong.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4039 - 14/12/2022 16:32:30    2450423

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Replying To imformed:  "Bekan - Connacht Centre of Excellence was and is a complete joke that was built as a Monument to the Sectary of the Connacht council. No proper due diligence was completed as if it was it would have recommended not to proceed. The Funds for the Centre should have been redistributed to each of the Counties for their own Centre of Excellence. Instead, we are left with a facility that is costing a fortune to keep and is severally unused. You then have the counties of Connacht either unable to fund their own facilities or under massive debt putting their facilities in place.

Roscommon are in a bad way for facilities. From speaking to the coaches of the County development teams there is major frustration and unrest that they haven't adequate facilities or resources to complete at the highest standard. Trainings are continuously cancelled as either the clubs wont make the facilities available or they fall foul of the weather.
The idea of spending 4m on repairs to the Hyde before you have a Centre of Excellence is madness. Get the Centre of Excellence built then sort out the Hyde. There is only one place the Centre of Excellence should be which is outside Roscommon Town, at worst a few miles from the town. This County board and the previous board have a lot to answer for by not delivering the required facilities. Troubling times ahead for the county unless things on the facilities front quickly."
Your 100% on the hole bekan and to make it worse ,had clowns from outside connaucht praising the friggin place ,with clubs and countys running on minuss ,but one line of caution ,make sure when ye do get yer centre of excellence ,it is n the center ,sligo "centre"is 1 hr away for clubs from the south and west and 5-10mins for east and the north (the town teams) and thus sense its been put in sligo gaa has gone into to decline and as far as we can make out will b staying there for a very long time ,when there was no centre ,sligo were a d1,d2 team ,so carefull what ye wish for ...

Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 327 - 15/12/2022 07:57:35    2450447

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Replying To The_analyser:  "County board convention was on last night and it was confirmed that land just outside Roscommon has been required with a deposit paid for the COE with planning permission due early next year.

The Hyde will be done in phases and commencing early next year, it will remain open for NFL games while works are done."
Great to see some progress on these two major projects. All the county board have to do to take into consideration our two user names:

The_analyser: Did what you are going to do and the sequence in which you are going to do it.

Lets get going: Implement it as soon as possible in a cost-effective way.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 727 - 15/12/2022 10:31:02    2450463

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Replying To Timmy86:  "Your 100% on the hole bekan and to make it worse ,had clowns from outside connaucht praising the friggin place ,with clubs and countys running on minuss ,but one line of caution ,make sure when ye do get yer centre of excellence ,it is n the center ,sligo "centre"is 1 hr away for clubs from the south and west and 5-10mins for east and the north (the town teams) and thus sense its been put in sligo gaa has gone into to decline and as far as we can make out will b staying there for a very long time ,when there was no centre ,sligo were a d1,d2 team ,so carefull what ye wish for ..."
Sligo have had some decent underage teams last few years.
They had decent Senior teams in the noughties but as happens with smaller Counties fell away then so needed to start with underage and wait till they grow up.
Our new Centre is near Ros Town which is the best place to have it.
As for the Connacht Council..... that won't change until the present Secretary for life has moved on

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2293 - 15/12/2022 10:36:17    2450464

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Replying To Timmy86:  "Your 100% on the hole bekan and to make it worse ,had clowns from outside connaucht praising the friggin place ,with clubs and countys running on minuss ,but one line of caution ,make sure when ye do get yer centre of excellence ,it is n the center ,sligo "centre"is 1 hr away for clubs from the south and west and 5-10mins for east and the north (the town teams) and thus sense its been put in sligo gaa has gone into to decline and as far as we can make out will b staying there for a very long time ,when there was no centre ,sligo were a d1,d2 team ,so carefull what ye wish for ..."
That centre is half hour at most from southern Sligo clubs.

Fair enough it's 50 mins from your most westerly club but overall it's a really good location.

Rossie2022 (Roscommon) - Posts: 26 - 16/12/2022 18:29:56    2450577

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Replying To Rossie2022:  "That centre is half hour at most from southern Sligo clubs.

Fair enough it's 50 mins from your most westerly club but overall it's a really good location."
Really good location!!!so its 30mins from curry to strandhill ,must b no speed cameras on them roads ,and is it a case of the "west will be alright"balisadare was perfect location ,and is lying empty now ,only reason scarden was got for an over priced figure ,cause no one wanted to build houses on it in 2008 ,so the offical on the cb got the cb To buy it !!and put the hole county into a worlds depth ,and this attitude ,aw we just have to pay for it !!!and just to add to it ,a drop of rain and thd place is un-playable ,friggin the old back pitch n tubber was n better condition than it

Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 327 - 17/12/2022 14:03:51    2450609

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Replying To Timmy86:  "Really good location!!!so its 30mins from curry to strandhill ,must b no speed cameras on them roads ,and is it a case of the "west will be alright"balisadare was perfect location ,and is lying empty now ,only reason scarden was got for an over priced figure ,cause no one wanted to build houses on it in 2008 ,so the offical on the cb got the cb To buy it !!and put the hole county into a worlds depth ,and this attitude ,aw we just have to pay for it !!!and just to add to it ,a drop of rain and thd place is un-playable ,friggin the old back pitch n tubber was n better condition than it"
So you don't think Markievicz Park is in a good location then? As Scarden is just a short drive from there. Not sure when they were built but plenty of houses are in the area, last time i was there it was non stop rain and the pitch held up well as one would expect with sand based and well drained pitches.

The total cost of this project was to be in the region of 3.2 million which was to be financed by three sources - fundraising, bank financing and central funding from the GAA so what's depth amount to do currently have from that project?

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 17/12/2022 15:24:28    2450611

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Replying To Yondu:  "So you don't think Markievicz Park is in a good location then? As Scarden is just a short drive from there. Not sure when they were built but plenty of houses are in the area, last time i was there it was non stop rain and the pitch held up well as one would expect with sand based and well drained pitches.

The total cost of this project was to be in the region of 3.2 million which was to be financed by three sources - fundraising, bank financing and central funding from the GAA so what's depth amount to do currently have from that project?"
The park has nothing to do with it ,dont know when your on about that it bucked down ,and it was ok ,was probably closed for weeks after ,and the finance was putting big levys on clubs and fine if they didnt pay !!for something they never even got a decision on

Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 327 - 17/12/2022 17:33:53    2450624

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Replying To Timmy86:  "The park has nothing to do with it ,dont know when your on about that it bucked down ,and it was ok ,was probably closed for weeks after ,and the finance was putting big levys on clubs and fine if they didnt pay !!for something they never even got a decision on"
On the launch of Sligo COE over a decade ago.

"Scarden lands were considered most suitable because of the competitive price per acre, the location within 5 km of Sligo Town centre, the land quality and access to location. Its also Sligo GAA strategic plan, whereby the key criterion was a location within the catchment area of the highest density of population within the county.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 17/12/2022 20:44:02    2450629

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On the topic of Sligo our Senior hurlers and footballers start their 2023 season against them

Hurlers on Jan 2nd and footballers 13th both games indoor in the Connacht GAA centre why these games aren't played in Hyde Park or Marky park is anyone's guess.

Hurlers fell at the last hurdle in both league and championship this year hopefully an improvement in both this year,

New manager and should be plenty of new faces for the footballers, can imagine our FBD team against Sligo will be experimental including plenty of lads making their county debuts.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4039 - 17/12/2022 20:55:28    2450630

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Replying To The_analyser:  "On the topic of Sligo our Senior hurlers and footballers start their 2023 season against them

Hurlers on Jan 2nd and footballers 13th both games indoor in the Connacht GAA centre why these games aren't played in Hyde Park or Marky park is anyone's guess.

Hurlers fell at the last hurdle in both league and championship this year hopefully an improvement in both this year,

New manager and should be plenty of new faces for the footballers, can imagine our FBD team against Sligo will be experimental including plenty of lads making their county debuts."
Should be an interesting selection for the first FBD game which sadly is an artificial game played in an artificial bubble.
The once excellent preparation for the NFL obtained from the FBD LEAGUE is now gone. It's been turned into an indoor knock out tournament which other than getting exercise is useless for NFL preparation.
I'm not going to blame the man behind all this as the CC delegates and County Boards could all have said NO!!

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2293 - 18/12/2022 11:13:16    2450646

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Should be an interesting selection for the first FBD game which sadly is an artificial game played in an artificial bubble.
The once excellent preparation for the NFL obtained from the FBD LEAGUE is now gone. It's been turned into an indoor knock out tournament which other than getting exercise is useless for NFL preparation.
I'm not going to blame the man behind all this as the CC delegates and County Boards could all have said NO!!"
Combination of won't be listened too and afraid to speak out. All boards still rely Connacht funding and can't upset the head poncho.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4039 - 18/12/2022 12:50:54    2450659

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Happy new year and here's hoping 2023 is a great year for all Roscommon teams. Anyone have any updates on the senior squad and if any challenges have been played yet or are scheduled before the Sligo game? Be interesting to hear what new faces are brought in this year.

ComainRos (Roscommon) - Posts: 148 - 03/01/2023 14:25:31    2450968

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Replying To ComainRos:  "Happy new year and here's hoping 2023 is a great year for all Roscommon teams. Anyone have any updates on the senior squad and if any challenges have been played yet or are scheduled before the Sligo game? Be interesting to hear what new faces are brought in this year."
Tadhg O'Rourke and Cian Connolly said to be back on panel.
Harney and Ronan Daly going/gone overseas.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2293 - 04/01/2023 12:19:25    2451070

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