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disappointed and lads left everything on the pitch but ran out of steam in last 10 mis.
i think the line were slow in making changes because it was obvious Paul was spent in midfield 5/7 mins before he was subbed.(I thought he was limping at one stage so could have picked up a knock and they were hoping he'd run it off which would be fair enough.)
I'm a fan of Finnerty but asking him to swing a match on Sunday when they didn't turn to him all year was asking a lot.
Can't understand how Gallagher has dropped down the order so much during the year and I'd say Paul Kelly must be wondering what he has done wrong as must Conor Flaherty-solid all year ,first choice in league final and fully fit for All Ireland semi final but unable to make the 26. maybe it would have added more pressure to Gleeson if Conor breathing down his shoulder but competition is good. Not great for his morale and i gather he and others who did not make official 26 had to travel Sunday morning separately .
Silke as of yesterday definitely travelling next year but presume Padraic will work on him so who knows.Heard 3 months ago from Annaghdown player that this was their last chance of Frank Fox as Damo applied for a career break.His partner Megan Glynn like Liam Silke has just qualified as doctor and a few years experience aborad beckons.Again Padraic will probably try to work something out here.
Loads of lads to return from injury and some of u20's a year older which should make the panel stronger and hopefully allow us to be more competitive next year even if some changes to panel.
Someone mentioned Ian Burke in an earlier post. Be a huge addition if he felt he could commit for the year. Rumours are he's back in training so let's see if that's true first and if he lines out for Corofin and take it from there.

fairplay4ever (Galway) - Posts: 432 - 26/07/2022 14:04:25    2434568

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Replying To smallfrank:  "I don't think Hernon is even playing with his club at the moment. Agree though there are a lot of guys who are serious prospects around the place.
I think someone like Cillian McDaid will give a lot of guys hope, went from being a sub v Mayo to arguably the best midfielder in the country at the moment. James McLoughlin, Tony Gill, Fitzgerald. Even the likes of Glynn, Tierney and Patrick Kelly will come on a ton after this summer. Remember they are 22, big pity Conor Flaherty missed the summer.
I also think Cooke and Michael Daly would have helped Sunday even from the bench. It was a strange one bringing on Eoin Finnerty even though I do rate him. It should be more of an attractive prospect to play for Galway now.

But…we still need to find a keeper."
Surely if it a pity that Flaherty missed Summer,he will be back next year so no need to be panicking about goalkeeper.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 416 - 26/07/2022 14:57:31    2434598

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Joe Brolly reckons that Galway threw in the towel in the final 10 mins. He was also critical of Walsh for trying to score free from an impossible distance at a vital moment. He feels that Galway never really put it up to Kerry.
Philly McMahon felt that Galway never really believed that they would win the game.
Both felt that for neutrals it was a bit of a non event and always heading for an inevitable conclusion.
It's hard to disagree.

crafty (Galway) - Posts: 260 - 26/07/2022 15:06:50    2434606

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Replying To crafty:  "Joe Brolly reckons that Galway threw in the towel in the final 10 mins. He was also critical of Walsh for trying to score free from an impossible distance at a vital moment. He feels that Galway never really put it up to Kerry.
Philly McMahon felt that Galway never really believed that they would win the game.
Both felt that for neutrals it was a bit of a non event and always heading for an inevitable conclusion.
It's hard to disagree."
What's your point?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7918 - 26/07/2022 15:23:10    2434613

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Replying To crafty:  "Joe Brolly reckons that Galway threw in the towel in the final 10 mins. He was also critical of Walsh for trying to score free from an impossible distance at a vital moment. He feels that Galway never really put it up to Kerry.
Philly McMahon felt that Galway never really believed that they would win the game.
Both felt that for neutrals it was a bit of a non event and always heading for an inevitable conclusion.
It's hard to disagree."
Genuine Desire and Belief is everything... So much has been made of the free against Daly. Clifford converted and put them a point ahead. Granted, it was a blow having clawed our way back. Yet, there was still ample time to save the game. A top team would have absorbed the negative, and kept on pressing. Bottom line - technically and, psychologically we weren't good enough.

Unfortunately, as in the 00's Galway are now destined to carry serious baggage into championship contests v Kerry...

AnCrúiscínLán (Galway) - Posts: 102 - 26/07/2022 15:37:41    2434623

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Replying To crafty:  "Joe Brolly reckons that Galway threw in the towel in the final 10 mins. He was also critical of Walsh for trying to score free from an impossible distance at a vital moment. He feels that Galway never really put it up to Kerry.
Philly McMahon felt that Galway never really believed that they would win the game.
Both felt that for neutrals it was a bit of a non event and always heading for an inevitable conclusion.
It's hard to disagree."
Easy to disagree. Brollys hasn't the first clue how to give proper analysis. He's got no Mayo to annoy so chose Galway was his subject this weekend probably still bitter about Tomas Mannion marking him out of the 1998 All-Ireland semi final and him getting subbed off on 45 minutes shaking his head in disbelief.

Non event? The game Level with Kerry 66 minutes played and never put it up to Kerry? Utter nonsense from those two i hope you didn't pay to listen to that.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 26/07/2022 15:43:51    2434627

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Replying To crafty:  "Joe Brolly reckons that Galway threw in the towel in the final 10 mins. He was also critical of Walsh for trying to score free from an impossible distance at a vital moment. He feels that Galway never really put it up to Kerry.
Philly McMahon felt that Galway never really believed that they would win the game.
Both felt that for neutrals it was a bit of a non event and always heading for an inevitable conclusion.
It's hard to disagree."
Not like Brolly and Philly to be talking scutter.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2377 - 26/07/2022 16:12:51    2434635

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Replying To AnCrúiscínLán:  "Genuine Desire and Belief is everything... So much has been made of the free against Daly. Clifford converted and put them a point ahead. Granted, it was a blow having clawed our way back. Yet, there was still ample time to save the game. A top team would have absorbed the negative, and kept on pressing. Bottom line - technically and, psychologically we weren't good enough.

Unfortunately, as in the 00's Galway are now destined to carry serious baggage into championship contests v Kerry..."
I don't believe they had any baggage heading into this game. The Galway players are actually used to beating Kerry in recent years between underage and the 2018 game. The just had the stronger bench and emptied it early and it got them over the line. Did they get 0-3 from their subs and a few assists as well? While we didn't even use our full complement of subs.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2377 - 26/07/2022 16:16:57    2434637

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Replying To Sportsfanatic90:  "They've been tried plenty of times and aren't ready. Dessie is too small and tomo too greedy with the ball. Paul is more a worker. We needed some directness out there and that's where damo was so disappointing, it's a pity because he might never get back there again"
Dessie Conneely, Tomo Culhane not tried enough from what i seen. When it comes to directness Dessie Conneely would be that, he'd be as "Small" as Darragh Cavanan who provided impact off the bench for Tyrone in last years final and that Galway was lacking last Sunday.

Plenty of top forwards are be greedy makes no sense to me why Tomo Culhane can't even make the match day 26. Paul Kelly scored a few goals in his starts last year a bit odd that he's fallen out of favour would offer more than Patrick Kelly IMO.

The full amount of subs weren't used by Joyce and his management on Sunday and one was brought on with 1 minute of action left again that makes little sense to me.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3589 - 26/07/2022 16:38:58    2434642

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Replying To crafty:  "Joe Brolly reckons that Galway threw in the towel in the final 10 mins. He was also critical of Walsh for trying to score free from an impossible distance at a vital moment. He feels that Galway never really put it up to Kerry.
Philly McMahon felt that Galway never really believed that they would win the game.
Both felt that for neutrals it was a bit of a non event and always heading for an inevitable conclusion.
It's hard to disagree."
It's generally been 'a non event' for neutrals watching the vast majority of Dublin games for the last 10 years imo, and certainly 'a non event' for neutrals watching the Leinster football championship, since the days when Colm O 'Rourke was a player, and he'll be 65 in a months time, I see.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4091 - 26/07/2022 16:49:54    2434648

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "What's your point?"
My point is to let you know what Joe and Philly made of the game.
When the crunch came Galway folded. I suppose that's the point.

crafty (Galway) - Posts: 260 - 26/07/2022 16:53:19    2434651

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One area of concern imo that has been largely ignored in the inquest of the final is that Kerry outclassed us through the field on the high ball. Kerry generally won all the 50/50 stuff that went in the air last Sunday. This helped them to clean the long kickout possession in the first half, which in turn allowed them to stay almost level on the scoreboard up to HT, despite 'enjoying' a shambolic conversion rate over the period. Kerry's superiority in the air was also evidenced in their potential to get 'marks' in the full forward line off long ball. This contrasted to Galway's long ball game, when we were chasing a 2-3 point deficit in the closing minutes. To say that the Kerry backline was utterly secure under Galway's late air raid would be an understatement.

Strength in the air through the field is a strength of Kerry's game, and it's comparatively a weakness in Galway's game imo. It doesn't get mentioned much, probably because nearly every team looks the exact same way going forward in the modern game, with a concentration on short handpassing & possession retention for the main part. There's rarely been less interest or focus on the high catch in the game, but still it was an area that was key to Kerry's 'comfort level' all through that final last Sunday imo.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4091 - 26/07/2022 17:12:42    2434661

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Replying To crafty:  "My point is to let you know what Joe and Philly made of the game.
When the crunch came Galway folded. I suppose that's the point."
Galway were unable to drive on in last few minutes to say they folded is ridiculous.

PancakeWard (Galway) - Posts: 86 - 26/07/2022 17:14:39    2434663

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Brolly just being Brolly, no point taking any notice of what he says but at least he's interesting. Philly McMahon is a horrendous bore looking to break into the proper media which I suspect won't happen.

As discussed by others Paul Kelly is a funny one as he started all the league games until the league final and barely got any minutes since. He's only 21/22 so there's more in him.

With another years S & C behind him I think Eoin Finnerty can make more of an impact, he made a big impression from outside the county after last years county final.

Its obviously that its from attacking point of view where we're short on the bench, we didn't have anyone of Killian Spillane calibre to come on so that is where we've got to improve. Peter Cooke would be a huge addition and Michael Daly would too, we need all the best players in the county available to Joyce.

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 289 - 26/07/2022 17:19:30    2434665

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Replying To crafty:  "My point is to let you know what Joe and Philly made of the game.
When the crunch came Galway folded. I suppose that's the point."
Apologies Crafty. Not having a go at you. Was more wondering what you think rather than Joe or Philly's opinion? Joe also thinks Shane Walsh's decisiin to take on a long freekick cost ye the game. It's rarely one incident that decides the game Don't be despondent. A very good year for Galway football. Padraig Joyce has shown he can adapt, can take other views onboard, get new personnel into the backroom who aren't yesmen sheep, will tell him what needs to be done to improve the team rather than tickle his belly. While other counties seek new managers ye should keep that man a while longer.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7918 - 26/07/2022 19:10:52    2434688

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Replying To crafty:  "My point is to let you know what Joe and Philly made of the game.
When the crunch came Galway folded. I suppose that's the point."
Galway tired after 55 minutes on Sunday, passes to colleagues were intercepted, and a bit of inexperience on the big day was evident. They can learn from the occasion, but have to start all over again next year.
Kerry had better subs, and got the last 4 points of the game. Galway required a goal to be sure of victory, it never materialised.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 26/07/2022 19:24:08    2434694

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Replying To crafty:  "My point is to let you know what Joe and Philly made of the game.
When the crunch came Galway folded. I suppose that's the point."
Galway tired after 55 minutes on Sunday, passes to colleagues were intercepted, and a bit of inexperience on the big day was evident. They can learn from the occasion, but have to start all over again next year.
Kerry had better subs, and got the last 4 points of the game. Galway required a goal to be sure of victory, it never materialised.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 26/07/2022 19:24:20    2434695

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Replying To crafty:  "Joe Brolly reckons that Galway threw in the towel in the final 10 mins. He was also critical of Walsh for trying to score free from an impossible distance at a vital moment. He feels that Galway never really put it up to Kerry.
Philly McMahon felt that Galway never really believed that they would win the game.
Both felt that for neutrals it was a bit of a non event and always heading for an inevitable conclusion.
It's hard to disagree."
What does 'never really put it up to Kerry' mean. If it means beat Kerry, then no we didn't. If it means did we give them a serious game and push them, then they're talking seafóid.
Kerry were strong favourites. When a favourite wins at the end, it's an inevitable conclusion. In 2020 I thought the Munster semi final was heading to an inevitable conclusion. Kerry had edged ahead of Cork as the game neared its conclusion. We know what happened next. If Mark Keane hadn't scored that goal, plenty would have written that Kerry were always going to win in the end.
We were level with a few minutes left on Sunday. We gave Kerry plenty of it but lacked fresh quality at the end.
Of course the players fully believed they could win. If they played them next week, they'd believe the same. The gap isn't enormous.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2287 - 26/07/2022 19:34:38    2434698

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "It's generally been 'a non event' for neutrals watching the vast majority of Dublin games for the last 10 years imo, and certainly 'a non event' for neutrals watching the Leinster football championship, since the days when Colm O 'Rourke was a player, and he'll be 65 in a months time, I see."
The one thing I hate about All Ireland finals and I'm not saying I disagree with it but half the crowd on Sunday were not from either Kerry or Galway and it doesn't help the "event".
I was beside a lad from Wicklow who took a call from his mammy half way through the second half, the other side of me were 2 lads from Longford who didn't open their mouths for the entire game

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 494 - 26/07/2022 19:46:33    2434701

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Replying To crafty:  "My point is to let you know what Joe and Philly made of the game.
When the crunch came Galway folded. I suppose that's the point."
Silly comment looking for reaction and I'm talking about the 2 pundits and u!

By that logic every team bar Kerry "folded" this year, last year every team bar Tyrone etc etc

Generic generalisations are lazy punditry

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1918 - 26/07/2022 19:56:29    2434703

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