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I was talking to a Turloughmore man on Sunday and he was saying that Diarmuid Kilcommins was outstanding against them. He set up everything including the two goals. Just a different class. He was hoping for a transfer market to get him to cross the border into Turlough. LottoPlus (Kilkenny) - Posts: 92 - 21/08/2023 15:37:29 2501629 Link 1 |
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The only constant is change and time will tell
BostonGuy (Galway) - Posts: 160 - 21/08/2023 16:16:11 2501644 Link 1 |
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Agree 100%. I didn't even know he was still playing but there he was. Always WIDE OPEN as if he was on an Island or something. And yes as you pointed out he was still in the middle of everything at the end. Great to see.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2484 - 21/08/2023 16:48:36 2501658 Link 0 |
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Interesting that he used the term 'different class'. Interesting, because many observers felt that Kilcommins never displayed the requisite level of class, across a range of hurling skillsets, to thrive or even survive at the highest level of intercounty. This was an intermediate grade club hurling game against Turloughmore''s B team, when 'Turloughmore man' made that evaluation.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4083 - 21/08/2023 23:45:38 2501706 Link 1 |
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He was excellent. Some display in high fielding on a day when they had a sweeper in front of him. He could have got more too if he wasn't so unselfish. Said it all that they resorted to taking fouls at the end and hoping young Michael Curtin would miss the frees. In fairness to him, at 17 years old he looks a good talent and showed great bottle to nail one at the end Kinvara are playing a nice style of hurling and have a very young team, I counted maybe 10 or 11 under 21's starting the last day Some good defenders for their age too, impressed with Heavey and O'Connor in the half back line Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 200 - 22/08/2023 10:02:28 2501721 Link 1 |
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It really won't though. I've asked you before to provide an outline as to how you would see it working and I don't remember seeing it, though I may have missed it. If I have, let me know and I will have a look for it. If not, please provide a general outline as to how you could possibly see it working. I'm not against professionalism (for players) in the GAA in itself, but there is just no way it could ever be sustainable in a country the size of Ireland. Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 22/08/2023 10:15:06 2501722 Link 2 |
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Curtin hit 0-10 or so from placed balls and only missed one, a '65 in the first half. In a game won by two points it shows the absolute value of a reliable freetaker. Tadhg Heavey is a great bit of stuff alright, and Josh O'Connor is really promising. 10 U20's started the last day I believe. Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 22/08/2023 12:26:11 2501757 Link 1 |
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I suppose it would be fair to say he's the best player ever from Kinvara and the fact is he seems to be getting better as time goes by. Any team would be glad to have him.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2484 - 23/08/2023 13:24:17 2501915 Link 0 |
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He doesn't fancy moving down to the sunny South East by any chance?!!!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15459 - 23/08/2023 14:08:02 2501937 Link 1 |
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Have you forgotten jerry macinerny
minor77 (Galway) - Posts: 270 - 23/08/2023 14:26:32 2501941 Link 1 |
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Comparing players from different eras is impossible but I'd say he would be a better hurler than Gerry Mac. If they were marking each other I'd say Whelan would get the better of the tussle more often than not. And btw Colm Corless from an earlier era may well have been the best of the lot of them!
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2009 - 23/08/2023 19:20:09 2501992 Link 1 |
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Ha ha ha. I sure hope not.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2484 - 24/08/2023 10:33:34 2502029 Link 0 |
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No I haven't. Savage hurler. He was a year or two ahead of me in school in Gort and he played for the school and was a savage hurler even back then. Any team could use a guy like him. I forgot he played for Kinvara. I had Clarenbridge stuck in my head for whatever reason.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2484 - 24/08/2023 10:39:01 2502031 Link 0 |
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I put a lot of this information in prior posts including the risks of not moving to a professional structure. I agree, the "current" structure would not support full scale professionalism, but who says the current structure is best? There will be an inflection point where the players ( core asset of the GAA) say it's not worth the effort and quit. Especially when everyone else is getting paid. It's not my job to figure out HOW the GAA transitions, but I have built brands and products before so here's some ideas. The first step is to recognize that you have a product, there is a value to it that people are willing to pay for. Forget about Saudi's, venture capital companies, JP McManus etc those are throw away statements. Focus on the reality which is the establishment, protection and growth of the product, fan base and revenue streams. Promoting: Biggest mistake was moving away from Sky, GAA looked at $$$ instead of how to promote the product abroad. We had professional soccer players with millions of followers tweeting about "crazy" hurling and football. This was a great opportunity to broaden the base of the product, increase viewership etc. WHy not have interviews, have the soccer players "try" hurling and post it. I would even "give away" hurling to ESPN (US) and other world sport distributors (Australia) who are always looking for content. Remember the first super bowl shown in Ireland , me neither but now its a watchable event and many people know the star players. We even have college football in Croke Park! Sponsorship: Stupid decision to ban drinks companies and gambling, both promote sports in a big way. People are still going to drink and gamble and GAA has cut off a major revenue stream, partnerships and ad revenue. There is also the ability to add more sponsors to merchandise, naming rights to grounds. Open up marketing to brand and player endorsements "Official drink of Galway GAA" shows Galway Brand Logo, ambassador roles etc The bigger (and loyal) the fanbase the more sponsors want to get involved. Infrastructure: Get rid of the cow shed in Salthill and build a multi purpose stadium. The money invested in Salthill was a waste. Multi-purpose would support concerts, corporate events and other commercial interests. Add different tiers of tickets, season tickets, corporate boxes, meet the players events. Not all viewers are equal and some are more valuable than others, premium fans, sponsor's fans, influencers each bring different levels of revenue and promotion The games: Abandon the leagues, Munster, Leinster and McDonagh cups and concentrate on the one thing that people care about: All Ireland's. Move to the premier league style home and away games to increase revenue, ensure that you get the best games and a promotion/relegation battle comes with with lost revenue of demotion (also great viewership). Broadcast the games at different times (and different platforms) to increase the viewership, Monday and Thursday night for BIG games break up the week, increasing viewership which increases value and revenue. The whole GAAGo is a litmus test, does everyone have the right to see the best games for free? All Ireland finals yes should be free to air (promotion) but there is a value to these high profile games, maybe free "sponsored by..." The brand: This is the most important part of the product. Build and protect image rights, the "County" logo should be changed to something that's intellectual property. All merchandise that contains the logo should provide revenue. Open up merchandise deals to all companies, not just "Guaranteed Irish", the goal is to get the best valuation for the product. Everyone knows the Yankees and Red Sox logo and you pay to have it on merch, hats, scarfs, car stickers. Look at media strategy, they are not all the same, which ones are promotion (free) and which are generating revenue for the media company (Fee). Open various revenue channels Fantasy leagues are a huge area, lock in fans and also generate revenue. These are hard questions, not all inclusive and definitely not a day 1. Again a fully thought out and progressive strategy would need to be established, but you asked for my thoughts so there you go. The bottom line is the risk of player burn out is real and planning how to protect (and compensate) the most important asset should be something the GAA should be very worried about. BostonGuy (Galway) - Posts: 160 - 24/08/2023 15:38:21 2502101 Link 1 |
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He relocated to Oranmore which robbed Kinvara of having Gearoid in the spine the last number of years!
Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 200 - 24/08/2023 15:43:37 2502102 Link 1 |
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Kinvara's loss was Oranmore's gain…..ha ha ha.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2484 - 24/08/2023 21:31:16 2502148 Link 0 |
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Ballinasloe is the place to be next weekend looking at the fixtures for the final round of group games. Turlough against Thomas' on Saturday evening, Sarsfields against Ardrahan and the Bridge against Larkins in a double header on Sunday. That will be Sarsfields trying to stay in the championship and Turlough will be under pressure for qualification as well, although it would be cruel if Turloughmore went out in the group given the way the Gort game ended. Ardrahan Sarsfields is a belter with Johnny Glynn coming back for the game and Ardrahan topping the group while Sarsfields have to win. galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 872 - 25/08/2023 11:42:36 2502195 Link 1 |
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You can't lose what you never had
Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 25/08/2023 12:08:06 2502201 Link 1 |
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It might be 'cruel' but it's not like they would have anyone else to blame if they went out
Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 25/08/2023 12:08:56 2502202 Link 1 |
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Forgot Turlough will actually be ok coming third given the Portumna scoring difference so should be safe.
galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 872 - 25/08/2023 12:17:35 2502203 Link 1 |