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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Dressing rooms not being open hardly a big deal for three of the four sides involved on Sunday next. Their players live within 5-15 mins away and in fact pre Covid some of those teams togged out at their home venue and arrived ready for action. Bit of a nuisance for Garrycastle but they're an experienced bunch who are used to Cusack Park. Dressing rooms no issue for hurlers last weekend."
They should be open it's not fair like they are supposed to be open all of ireland now so why keep them closed

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 74 - 28/10/2021 12:10:12    2387702

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Replying To Left Full:  "I think all the hurlers that got their gear & belongings absolutely soaked before halftime due to a massive downpour would disagree with you. Its ridiculous that dressing rooms remain closed."
ye its not fair on them they should be open

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 74 - 28/10/2021 12:10:47    2387703

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Replying To Bettyboo22:  "ye its not fair on them they should be open"
The GAA Guidelines on dressing rooms are that they can be used if all players are vaccinated. If the team is a mixed immunity group then pods of 6 only are allowed. If teams are still togging out outside then it's because all their players aren't vaccinated or the clubs have decided not to ask the players if they're vaccinated.

midfield9 (Westmeath) - Posts: 94 - 28/10/2021 16:46:29    2387747

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Replying To midfield9:  "The GAA Guidelines on dressing rooms are that they can be used if all players are vaccinated. If the team is a mixed immunity group then pods of 6 only are allowed. If teams are still togging out outside then it's because all their players aren't vaccinated or the clubs have decided not to ask the players if they're vaccinated."
An email went out to all clubs in action this weekend that the dressings would not be opened, full stop regardless of being vaccinated or not! Yet another excellent call by our county board… Absolutely crazy with the weather that we're having at the minute.

Westmeathking (Westmeath) - Posts: 54 - 28/10/2021 18:20:27    2387759

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Replying To midfield9:  "The GAA Guidelines on dressing rooms are that they can be used if all players are vaccinated. If the team is a mixed immunity group then pods of 6 only are allowed. If teams are still togging out outside then it's because all their players aren't vaccinated or the clubs have decided not to ask the players if they're vaccinated."
They are not opening the dressing rooms in cusack same as last weekend vaccinated or not . Let's hope the rain holds off

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 74 - 29/10/2021 08:09:54    2387780

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Replying To midfield9:  "The GAA Guidelines on dressing rooms are that they can be used if all players are vaccinated. If the team is a mixed immunity group then pods of 6 only are allowed. If teams are still togging out outside then it's because all their players aren't vaccinated or the clubs have decided not to ask the players if they're vaccinated."
Untrue. General guidance from Croke Park is they can be opened with some restrictions i think, but Westmeath County Board have made their own call on the dressings rooms being available and they have decided not to open them regardless of any guidance from Croke Park.

gti (Westmeath) - Posts: 214 - 29/10/2021 09:03:51    2387781

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It's a disgrace they're not opening dressing rooms when the GAA have given permission to allow players to use them. Even if they only decided to allow players to use them after the game for showers and to get changed but have team talks etc outside. Making lads travel across the county without a chance to shower at this time of year is a joke.

And it was dictated by the county board. Nothing to do with clubs not asking players.

anon (None) - Posts: 346 - 29/10/2021 12:01:15    2387810

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Replying To anon:  "It's a disgrace they're not opening dressing rooms when the GAA have given permission to allow players to use them. Even if they only decided to allow players to use them after the game for showers and to get changed but have team talks etc outside. Making lads travel across the county without a chance to shower at this time of year is a joke.

And it was dictated by the county board. Nothing to do with clubs not asking players."
Well Said !

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 74 - 29/10/2021 13:24:34    2387822

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Dressing rooms not being open hardly a big deal for three of the four sides involved on Sunday next. Their players live within 5-15 mins away and in fact pre Covid some of those teams togged out at their home venue and arrived ready for action. Bit of a nuisance for Garrycastle but they're an experienced bunch who are used to Cusack Park. Dressing rooms no issue for hurlers last weekend."
Not sure what experience has got to do with it, Claretandblue. If you're soaked wet after a game and have to travel 28 miles to have a shower, being used to playing in Cusack Park isn't really much of a help!

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 394 - 29/10/2021 18:59:02    2387854

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Both games are on Iarmhi Tv they will be two great Games to watch looking forward to them.

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 74 - 30/10/2021 08:22:09    2387861

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The Downs flatter to deceive once again. You have to hand it to Garrycastle though. They always come good at the business end of the championship

mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 146 - 31/10/2021 13:35:15    2387955

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Great win for Garrycastle in first semi final. Fully merited win. Started brilliantly and the two early goals virtually killed off the match. The Downs were chasing the game from the first minute and that suited Garrycastle's game plan and their experience was vital. Alex Gardiner, James Dolan, Tom O' Halloran, Justin Barrett and the McCallons were immense. The Downs defence looked porous throughout and Peter Murray faced a thankless job with poor protection outfield. The Downs did miss chances, especially early on but they never looked likely to overcome the early deficit. Disappointing for them after an impressive league section of the championship. The four week break may not have helped and their last crucial championship match was at least six weeks ago.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 674 - 31/10/2021 14:06:01    2387962

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Garrycastle best team from start to finish and very accurate while The Downs shooting was shocking. Yes a very poor start for them but they rallied before half time. However a sloppy 3rd goal after the restart meant it was game over.
Second game was much better and fair play to Lomans for grinding out the win like they always seem to do. Flattered by the margin but stronger bench sealed the deal. Difficult conditions for both matches and no dressing rooms open. Didn't think the refereeing was great in both games but dont think it influenced the outcome although Kinnegad might think differently. Sets up an intriguing final with the best 2 teams.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 935 - 31/10/2021 17:19:07    2387975

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Great win for Garrycastle in first semi final. Fully merited win. Started brilliantly and the two early goals virtually killed off the match. The Downs were chasing the game from the first minute and that suited Garrycastle's game plan and their experience was vital. Alex Gardiner, James Dolan, Tom O' Halloran, Justin Barrett and the McCallons were immense. The Downs defence looked porous throughout and Peter Murray faced a thankless job with poor protection outfield. The Downs did miss chances, especially early on but they never looked likely to overcome the early deficit. Disappointing for them after an impressive league section of the championship. The four week break may not have helped and their last crucial championship match was at least six weeks ago."
Great to be in the park today. The semi finals were great to watch. The first semi final showed that experience counts for everything. Garry Castle were outstanding. James dolan was immense. But Alex gardiner was on fire. They have a great management and will be hard beaten. The defending champions had to dig deep against a fired up kinnegad outfit. But when the big questions were asked the big men ó toole and heslin stood up. It will be a great final. I won't make a call just yet. I was very upset to see no dressing rooms available for a county semi final i think the players deserve better

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1524 - 31/10/2021 17:57:32    2387979

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Coralstown Kinnegad disappointed undoubtedly at final whistle yesterday but they've made significant progress this year, definitely a championship winning side in next couple of years if they avoid injuries. Loman's still the team to beat, Ronan O' Toole has been relatively quiet in championship by his high standards but his performance in final quarter yesterday was sublime, four great points, one in particular was outrageous and ultimately the difference. John Heslin, TJ Cox, Fola and Sam McCartan also contributed immensely. Two best teams in final. Interesting that quarter finalists are both in final, Milltownpass also after finishing fourth. Game sharpness possibly helping those sides. Challenge matches no substitute.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 674 - 01/11/2021 12:31:47    2388056

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Coralstown Kinnegad disappointed undoubtedly at final whistle yesterday but they've made significant progress this year, definitely a championship winning side in next couple of years if they avoid injuries. Loman's still the team to beat, Ronan O' Toole has been relatively quiet in championship by his high standards but his performance in final quarter yesterday was sublime, four great points, one in particular was outrageous and ultimately the difference. John Heslin, TJ Cox, Fola and Sam McCartan also contributed immensely. Two best teams in final. Interesting that quarter finalists are both in final, Milltownpass also after finishing fourth. Game sharpness possibly helping those sides. Challenge matches no substitute."
i take it you didnt see the first semi final as you made no comment on it . the champions did enough yesterday but to say they are the team to beat tells me you must be a lomans man and more luck to you , as a neutral i have to say garrycastle were the best team on view yesterday . they are the team that will take all the beating

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1524 - 01/11/2021 14:58:56    2388079

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Garrycastle very impressive vs both Shamrocks and The Downs. However, both teams set up very naively and let Gardiner and Dolan run riot. Lomans will not allow that to happen, even if they need to put 12 behind the ball as they did for the 1st half v Kinnegad. The Downs had no excuse having seen the 2 boys make hay in the quarter final. Garrycastle's accuracy was unreal, maybe 3 or 4 wides in total while I'd say the downs had 14 or 15. Should be a tight entertaining final but I really think the Lomans strength off the bench will win it for them.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 935 - 01/11/2021 16:30:31    2388091

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I made a detailed comment on the first game Mick. In between both games. Loman's have been the standard bearers for almost ten years, seventh successive final, Garrycastle their biggest rivals in that time but the Athlone outfit won 1 game out of 5 in league stages, hardly justifies favourites tag. Loman's have won their last four matches when they've been back to full strength. I'm not a betting man but would be amazed if Loman's are not decent favourites, maybe 4-6.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 674 - 01/11/2021 17:49:55    2388101

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The Downs done very well to comeback in that game. Garrycastle were on shooting fire.
Future Looks Bright for Coralstown kinnegad that's with an awful amount of injuries they still made the Semi Final Fairplay to them.

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 74 - 01/11/2021 19:51:25    2388117

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "i take it you didnt see the first semi final as you made no comment on it . the champions did enough yesterday but to say they are the team to beat tells me you must be a lomans man and more luck to you , as a neutral i have to say garrycastle were the best team on view yesterday . they are the team that will take all the beating"
Have to agree I think Garrycastle have been excellent the last two games.. Scoreline flattered the Downs if anything, always felt Garrycastle aswell had another gear to go to if needed. I think Lomans just about deserved their win but have to credit Kinnegad, thought they gave a brilliant account of themselves and are sure to win a county title in the next couple of years. I do think Garrycastle are the best team in the championship and could do well against a somewhat weak Lomans defence.

westmeathman99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 01/11/2021 21:48:30    2388124

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