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How many Rapps lads should be given a look in now? The reality is we have an average enough championship and who we have there the last few years are the best we have. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 27/11/2021 19:23:24 2390986 Link 0 |
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Bit of a low and possibly pre-planned cheap shot post after a result, reality is we've a very open championship with 6 or 7 teams capable of winning it, Rapps aren't the outstanding team in it, nobody will be making them outright favourites next year they'll be considered in the mix with Shels, Gorey, Martins etc. Also don't think anyone was making a clammer for a host of their players to be brought into the county panel. People suggested Ben Edwards as he's a consistent good man marker and Gooch who was quiet tonight but had an outstanding Wexford championship, Oisin Pepper at 18 looks to have a bright future but fine in the u20 set up for a year or 2. Question is do you want a open championship or something like Ballygunner's dominance in Waterford, good example is Tyrone football championship where they haven't had a Ulster champion since 2003 and they're county championship hasn't been retained since 2005, that hasn't done them any harm. Also look at the current Ballyhale team who if they won the all Ireland this year would probably be considered the best club team ever, this hasn't resulted in a Kilkenny golden generation. Good result for Oilgate in Intermediate beating Wicklow Senior champions Bray Emmets today, semi final at home against either Meath Senior champions Kildalkey or Offaly Senior B Champions Clodaigh Gaels, they've 10 senior A teams. Other semi is Naas who won Kildare Senior championship at home to Glenmore. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 27/11/2021 19:53:06 2390993 Link 0 |
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Not a pre-planned shot at all. I would just be concerned that our county champions, who were the most impressive winners I have ever seen, went down so tamely. If a dominate team like Oulart didn't mine many Leinster titles, then Rapps had no chance. They are the definition of greater than the sum of their parts. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 27/11/2021 20:09:42 2390994 Link 0 |
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I wouldn't agree with them being so impressive champions, they had a day of days against arguably a tired Annes team who were out 7 weeks on the spin although what Loughmore are doing in Tipp would contradict that. Rapps were lucky to beat Glynn in the semi final showing how open our championship is.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 27/11/2021 20:57:54 2390997 Link 0 |
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Yeah that's fair enough. The manner of victory was impressive, best since Gorey won senior. The long and short of it is Wexford champions shouldn't be so well beaten by Laois champs beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 27/11/2021 21:23:56 2391004 Link 0 |
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Rapps weren't hugely convincing winners against Ferns in their quarter-final either. They led through the first half all right but were pegged back during the second, and it was a goal against the run of play with about six or eight minutes left that really saw them through. Even after that, Ferns missed a couple of late chances that could have made a big difference too. Anyway, I think the ten-week gap without competitive hurling since the county final simply has to have been a big factor. And much as I'd like to see Wexford teams do well in Leinster, have to say that unfortunately I'm really not surprised by this evening's result. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2245 - 27/11/2021 21:28:23 2391005 Link 0 |
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I think another issue for the Rapps is their size profile especially in the forwards, would see them as a top of the ground team rather than a winter team.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 27/11/2021 21:54:02 2391007 Link 0 |
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Laois are probably going to surpass Wexford in Leinster hurling quite soon, and be dominant over them for the next 20 years or so. Ditto Dublin; they've a lot more coming through than Wexford. I can see Offaly also improve, but would consider that themselves and Wexford are going to be at about the same level. Not in 2022, but soon after, I predict.
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1910 - 28/11/2021 07:58:33 2391010 Link 0 |
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Lads getting their knickers in a twist, it is 10 weeks sense rapps played any sort of competitive hurling match and had one or two good players missing, unfortunately our new club structure is not going to suit the club leinster championship. As for the lads predicting every team in leinster is going to pass wexford out in the next few years, yawn. hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 931 - 28/11/2021 10:27:23 2391017 Link 1 |
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Maybe playing hurling off first in the split season has its disadvantages so! beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 28/11/2021 12:37:13 2391023 Link 0 |
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I think so. Can't judge the entire thing on just one match yesterday, of course, but I do think that if things stayed the way they are for another couple of years, and Wexford clubs went out of Leinster championship in first round after ten or twelve weeks without a competitive hurling match, then there'd be an inescapable conclusion to be drawn all right. But I wouldn't like a situation either where hurling doesn't even start until mid or late September. So more and more, I think the best all round would be a return to the old system of playing the championships alongside each other, with hurling one week and football the next. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2245 - 28/11/2021 13:01:40 2391025 Link 0 |
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Laois aren't setting the world alight at underage level so don't know where you're coming from with that comment about them passing wexford by. We saw the hammering wexford gave them this year in the championship as well. We've had three decent minor teams in the last few years and there's every reason to believe we can get 3 or 4 from each team to develop into good senior hurlers. Dublin have the potential to have a big say but we've been saying that about them for a few years now and they haven't been able to deliver.
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 28/11/2021 13:32:05 2391027 Link 0 |
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Oularts players werent largely playing senior football in the run up to any of their Leinster club hurling campaigns. Football is a completely different sport. I still think thats why our 2020 intercounty hurling campaign was so poor.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11842 - 28/11/2021 14:09:15 2391029 Link 0 |
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Laois only have 8 senior clubs but all 8 would probably be good enough for our senior championship. Certainly 4 of them would be. Carlows top teams likewise. The so called lesser counties dont have poorer senior clubs. Just less of them. Antrim for example have won a few times as many All Ireland senior club hurling titles as we have.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11842 - 28/11/2021 14:12:45 2391030 Link 0 |
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You are away with the coyotes lad
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11842 - 28/11/2021 14:13:36 2391031 Link 0 |
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Our "problem" is our sticking to the tradition of the GAA. We are the most dual county in Ireland. Most of our top hurlers are also their clubs top footballers and vice versa. But I for 1 wouldnt want to change our club structure to seperate hurling and football clubs just to be more competitive in Provincial and National competitions. I think it's great that my kids can play both sports with their classmates and pupils from the other National school in the parish. Alternating games each weekend and training for each sport on seperate nights during the week.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11842 - 28/11/2021 14:19:36 2391033 Link 0 |
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Our "problem" is our sticking to the tradition of the GAA. We are the most dual county in Ireland. Most of our top hurlers are also their clubs top footballers and vice versa. But I for 1 wouldnt want to change our club structure to seperate hurling and football clubs just to be more competitive in Provincial and National competitions. I think it's great that my kids can play both sports with their classmates and pupils from the other National school in the parish. Alternating games each weekend and training for each sport on seperate nights during the week.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11842 - 28/11/2021 14:19:42 2391034 Link 0 |
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The downside of the split was well known and last year we didn't see it although I would say the Shels would have been better equipped to take that break. It's not all good for football either. Either way next year there has to be change of some sort, there has to be more games in each code. After two games you are in a relegation playoff. Like the county team clubs need to blood younger players but doing that in the current structure is a massive risk. Winning games in the provincial club won't help the standard of the game across the county. So for me the first priority is raising the standards across the board in clubs but I don't see that happening with the the last two years setup. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 28/11/2021 16:29:17 2391044 Link 0 |
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the not playing for so many weeks arguemrent was blown out of the water by ballygunner today, its did not affect them , it seemed to me the rapps were not really bothered, or were just not good enough, one of their main players went off to play rugby, he was not much bothered was he? Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 28/11/2021 18:03:38 2391050 Link 0 |
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A 4 month window of no activity both this year and last would have forced the hand, also just to correct you it after 3 games teams were in a relegation play off but thats not ideal either.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 28/11/2021 19:03:59 2391053 Link 0 |