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Replying To Pikeman96:  "That's just the "teaser" piece they put up of the first few paragraphs of a story, and you have to subscribe then to get the rest of it. The whole article won't be online until maybe next week, if it ever goes up at all.

Have to either subscribe or else buy the paper the old-fashioned way if you want to read the full story now."
Ah sorry, I've the Independent subscription so I think that covers it for me.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 03/11/2021 16:33:40    2388304

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Replying To wexico15:  "Ah sorry, I've the Independent subscription so I think that covers it for me."
Same as. Only 5.99

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 03/11/2021 17:43:04    2388321

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "That's just the "teaser" piece they put up of the first few paragraphs of a story, and you have to subscribe then to get the rest of it. The whole article won't be online until maybe next week, if it ever goes up at all.

Have to either subscribe or else buy the paper the old-fashioned way if you want to read the full story now."
Whole article is online Pikeman. No names apart from the 2 Foleys mentioned though

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 03/11/2021 17:44:09    2388322

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Replying To beano:  "I don't know who said it was 11, was always the six I referred to earlier plus the current two panelists."
Countyman2022. Presumably Darragh or Shane mustve rang him told him he was in the panel for next year by his username......

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 03/11/2021 17:45:56    2388323

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Replying To beano:  "But when you take it isolation, it seems okay.

There is Jack Cullen, widely regarded as one of if not the best WB in the county, and a player whose skill-set we've been crying out for. Consistently excellent.

Eoin Molloy was a solid corner-back pre-injury in a problem area for Wexford. Best man-marker around. His two brothers have been called up as well, Cian is very much one for the future but there is no harm getting him on a S and C programme already, while Gary is a versatile lad who has been consistent at club level too.

Aodhan Doyle again is one of the top performers in his position over the last few years, is athletic and worth looking at.

Finally, Charlie McGuckin was injured for Gorey this year, but is a good team-player, plays the work-horse role well (don't have many candidates to potentially play a 'Bonner Maher' role) and previously played underage at county level.

Besides, its only a preliminary training squad. It would be far worse had no-one was called up and the Status Quo remained."
Yeah I suppose when your consider there hoping to trial 60 players not in the panel this year I think that's 92 in the equation as 32 were on the panel this year. Taking that into account 6 Gorey lads getting a chance on top of Conor Mc and Dunbar isn't too extraordinary, we were considering the other poster suggesting 9 or 11. Agree on your points on the players,arguably Cian Molloy is the best hurler in Wexford in the 19-21 age bracket, along with Jack Cullen looks to have the toolkit to be a 1st 15 player for a long number of years, although not the best sample size his brother Gary played 2 Walsh Cup games at corner back in 2020 and didn't put a foot wrong from my memory, Eoin was actually the youngest panel member in 2019 but hopefully after a couple of injury ravaged years can fulfil his potential. I'd rate Aodhan  Doyle along with Shane Lawlor of Rathnure as the best club players of the last 3-4 years who were never in the panel under Davy. I must admit I presumed he had no interest as his form would have been impossible to ignore, funnily he was tailor made for the running style which to be fair was pretty effective at times under Davy arguably McGuckin might have suited his style too.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 04/11/2021 07:30:51    2388350

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Replying To Viking66:  "Whole article is online Pikeman. No names apart from the 2 Foleys mentioned though"
Yup, as Wexico points out above, the likes of him or yourself will see the whole thing online since you've already got a subscription to it. Dinosaurs like myself who still buy the paper the old-fashioned way only get to see the first few paragraphs.

Have read the piece myself anyway. The bit about the District League to involve 60 players not already in the senior squad is interesting. Think it shows Egan and his crew are very open to giving new lads a chance and bringing them in if they think they're good enough.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2247 - 04/11/2021 09:53:29    2388355

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Yup, as Wexico points out above, the likes of him or yourself will see the whole thing online since you've already got a subscription to it. Dinosaurs like myself who still buy the paper the old-fashioned way only get to see the first few paragraphs.

Have read the piece myself anyway. The bit about the District League to involve 60 players not already in the senior squad is interesting. Think it shows Egan and his crew are very open to giving new lads a chance and bringing them in if they think they're good enough."
Which I think is a great idea, although as another poster said I'm not sure if you could expect more than a handful if that to make the step up.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 04/11/2021 12:56:06    2388381

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Yup, as Wexico points out above, the likes of him or yourself will see the whole thing online since you've already got a subscription to it. Dinosaurs like myself who still buy the paper the old-fashioned way only get to see the first few paragraphs.

Have read the piece myself anyway. The bit about the District League to involve 60 players not already in the senior squad is interesting. Think it shows Egan and his crew are very open to giving new lads a chance and bringing them in if they think they're good enough."
Taking his comments at face value and in good faith he seems to value not treading on the toes of clubs referencing u20 football club championship, i was reading he played u17 or u18 international rules so hopefully he can emphasise with dual commitments.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 04/11/2021 14:34:36    2388392

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Replying To Viking66:  "Which I think is a great idea, although as another poster said I'm not sure if you could expect more than a handful if that to make the step up."
Agreed. But at least he's making efforts to have a look anyway. Otherwise these lads wouldn't get another chance to impress until club action resumes next year, when the inter-county stuff is already over.

Would also welcome how he's obviously mindful of football commitments. I still have massive time for Davy myself, but a breath of fresh air is a good thing too.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2247 - 04/11/2021 15:31:56    2388399

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Agreed. But at least he's making efforts to have a look anyway. Otherwise these lads wouldn't get another chance to impress until club action resumes next year, when the inter-county stuff is already over.

Would also welcome how he's obviously mindful of football commitments. I still have massive time for Davy myself, but a breath of fresh air is a good thing too."
Exactly I taught Davy made us very competitive and had some great times, 2020 was a freak year in all our lives so wouldn't just him on that championship but time was right for change.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 04/11/2021 16:07:34    2388408

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Replying To wexico15:  "Exactly I taught Davy made us very competitive and had some great times, 2020 was a freak year in all our lives so wouldn't just him on that championship but time was right for change."
*judge him*

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 04/11/2021 17:01:01    2388418

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I see an bord pleanala overturned the planning granted by the Council on appeal for the new developments at Ferns. Article online in the Independent/People. Sorry Pikeman. Who appealed does anyone know?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 05/11/2021 12:40:39    2388466

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Replying To Viking66:  "I see an bord pleanala overturned the planning granted by the Council on appeal for the new developments at Ferns. Article online in the Independent/People. Sorry Pikeman. Who appealed does anyone know?"
http://www.wexfordgaa.ie/2021/11/wexford-gaa-bulletin-3/

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 05/11/2021 13:59:41    2388478

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Replying To Viking66:  "I see an bord pleanala overturned the planning granted by the Council on appeal for the new developments at Ferns. Article online in the Independent/People. Sorry Pikeman. Who appealed does anyone know?"
The full article is actually online for this one: https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/news/blow-for-wexford-gaa-as-an-bord-pleanala-refuses-planning-for-ferns-centre-of-excellence-expansion-41018287.html
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The paper's a bit funny in how it puts up the full article for some things, but just the "teaser" for others.

Anyway, there were two objectors - both local farmers. One had particular concerns over access/traffic, as new entrance to the CoE from the "old" N11 would be directly opposite his own gate. Both had concerns about damage to crops in fields adjoining the CoE, and to the ditches/fences between them, from people going to retrieve stray footballs/hurling balls and even from kids going "exploring" while they were at the CoE for any reason.

Both also said something along the lines of how they're generally supporters of the GAA and how they hoped some resolution could be reached on these things so as not to stop the entire development, but that they were unhappy with any proposed solutions put forward so far by Wexford GAA.

I know all this because the documents are online somewhere and I read through them a few months back, just out of interest. Can't remember if the latest ones are on the County Council site or the Bórd Pleanála site, though. Might put up the link sometime later, if I can find it.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2247 - 05/11/2021 14:47:52    2388483

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No time like the present, so here we go: https://www.pleanala.ie/en-ie/case/310127
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I think hugely significant is the fact that the Bord Pleanála inspector recommended that the project be given the go-ahead, but the board themselves then decided differently. Their reason for doing so is that the new entrance from the "old" N11 (now the R772) would be inappropriate and not in line with other stated objectives to minimise access/egress points on such roads.

Huge blow for Wexford GAA when you consider it was always thought the current entrance would be only temporary until the bypass opened around Ferns, and that then there'd be no problem in putting an entrance on a road that was no longer a national route.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2247 - 05/11/2021 15:03:54    2388485

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "The full article is actually online for this one: https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/news/blow-for-wexford-gaa-as-an-bord-pleanala-refuses-planning-for-ferns-centre-of-excellence-expansion-41018287.html
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The paper's a bit funny in how it puts up the full article for some things, but just the "teaser" for others.

Anyway, there were two objectors - both local farmers. One had particular concerns over access/traffic, as new entrance to the CoE from the "old" N11 would be directly opposite his own gate. Both had concerns about damage to crops in fields adjoining the CoE, and to the ditches/fences between them, from people going to retrieve stray footballs/hurling balls and even from kids going "exploring" while they were at the CoE for any reason.

Both also said something along the lines of how they're generally supporters of the GAA and how they hoped some resolution could be reached on these things so as not to stop the entire development, but that they were unhappy with any proposed solutions put forward so far by Wexford GAA.

I know all this because the documents are online somewhere and I read through them a few months back, just out of interest. Can't remember if the latest ones are on the County Council site or the Bórd Pleanála site, though. Might put up the link sometime later, if I can find it."
I would say the issue is perhaps not so much the damage done but the potential liability of the farmers to kids rambling onto their lands, it's a genuine concern I would have thought. A farmer that has lands that surrounds a local club might be ok with it but not at the coe.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 05/11/2021 17:08:04    2388496

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Replying To zinny:  "
Replying To Pikeman96:  "The full article is actually online for this one: https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/news/blow-for-wexford-gaa-as-an-bord-pleanala-refuses-planning-for-ferns-centre-of-excellence-expansion-41018287.html
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The paper's a bit funny in how it puts up the full article for some things, but just the "teaser" for others.

Anyway, there were two objectors - both local farmers. One had particular concerns over access/traffic, as new entrance to the CoE from the "old" N11 would be directly opposite his own gate. Both had concerns about damage to crops in fields adjoining the CoE, and to the ditches/fences between them, from people going to retrieve stray footballs/hurling balls and even from kids going "exploring" while they were at the CoE for any reason.

Both also said something along the lines of how they're generally supporters of the GAA and how they hoped some resolution could be reached on these things so as not to stop the entire development, but that they were unhappy with any proposed solutions put forward so far by Wexford GAA.

I know all this because the documents are online somewhere and I read through them a few months back, just out of interest. Can't remember if the latest ones are on the County Council site or the Bórd Pleanála site, though. Might put up the link sometime later, if I can find it."
I would say the issue is perhaps not so much the damage done but the potential liability of the farmers to kids rambling onto their lands, it's a genuine concern I would have thought. A farmer that has lands that surrounds a local club might be ok with it but not at the coe."
Any word on how the hurlers are going lads? I know early days with new management team etc... Looking forward to seeing what new players will be introduced into the squad for next year.

logger (Wexford) - Posts: 296 - 15/11/2021 14:40:14    2389541

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Tough league group this year. Cork, Galway, Clare, Limerick and Offaly. Limerick at home first on 6th February.any word on the squad ir anything lads?

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 933 - 19/11/2021 08:48:25    2389940

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Replying To hunting:  "Tough league group this year. Cork, Galway, Clare, Limerick and Offaly. Limerick at home first on 6th February.any word on the squad ir anything lads?"
It's a tough group all right, but just wondering where you're getting that date from? Haven't seen anything anywhere yet myself about fixtures, and have been looking out for them....

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2247 - 19/11/2021 11:17:57    2389956

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Replying To hunting:  "Tough league group this year. Cork, Galway, Clare, Limerick and Offaly. Limerick at home first on 6th February.any word on the squad ir anything lads?"
I'm glad we've a tough league group, get us road tested for championship, heard nothing since the article in the local papers about Paudie Foley's return and potential district tiral games. If they go ahead i hope their open to the public like Tipperary are doing this weekend.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 19/11/2021 11:26:51    2389958

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