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Replying To galwayford: "Meath and Cavan GAA, with respect neither have one a senior title in years, ok the Meath women won." Cavan literally won the Ulster Senior Championship 11 months ago? As regards the move, it seems a poor call, and bafflingly hastily executed. GallantJohnJoe (Cavan) - Posts: 329 - 01/10/2021 09:42:45 2383912 Link
Replying To Maroonatic: "I don't like it either but I have a certain sympathy. What goes up on a forum can be open to litigation if not properly & constantly moderated. The responsibility is all on the site owners. I mean, I see adventure parks and kid's playgrounds being shut down because of high insurance costs. Car insurance is astronomical, liability cover the same. We Irish do love to sue." If that's the case shut down the forums altogether. Someone can still post something libellous on the National page. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 01/10/2021 10:07:02 2383916 Link
Replying To GallantJohnJoe: "Cavan literally won the Ulster Senior Championship 11 months ago? As regards the move, it seems a poor call, and bafflingly hastily executed." Johnjoe I like your words and might borrow bafflingly hastily executed. Brilliant! GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 01/10/2021 10:17:15 2383919 Link
Replying To Administrator: "From this morning the individual forums in all bar two counties have been retired. The majority of discussion will be in one place, through the national forum where any topics can be discussed. There has been a growing trend towards this in recent years and with all messages individually moderated, it allows us to focus our resources more efficiently. It's a big change, but where would the GAA world be without amalgamations?" Could you please explain and/or clarify... 1. Who authorised the the retirement of almost all the county forums? 2. Was there any consultation with the users of the county forums? If not, why not? 3. Why were two of the county forums retained? 4. Was there an equality impact assessment done? 5. Have there been any consumer rights broken that are applicable in both parts of this island by such action? 6. Finally, I assume that the GAA HQ paid for the administration of this Hoganstand platform from monies raised from GAA supporters nationwide so does that not entitle those supporters to have a say on this matter? abc1234 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 406 - 01/10/2021 10:41:44 2383924 Link
People visit the hoganstand forums for a bit of crack / banter. While there they may browse through the news on the website. The news is not up to date and same news stories remains there for weeks /months on end even when story has advanced. The only other time I use the forum is at weekends of Championship / league matches where scores are kept up to date. As the County scene will now run from Feb to June or July, and if forums are closed, I along with a lot of other contributors will not be accessing website from July onwards. With the website been scarcely used for the latter half of the year, this could impact advertising revenue. The comment theme among contributors is PLEASE THINK THIS THROUGH AND REINSTATE. Even follow up your initial comment re the closing of these forums and perhaps give some insight into the reasons behind the decision. Jack L (None) - Posts: 3141 - 01/10/2021 10:51:45 2383926 Link
Most county forums were dead/very few posts. no surprise theyve been removed but surely if removing the overwhelming majority why not just remove them all then? but would a better format for forum as a while be better. maybe now have different headers and a different forum software like vbulletin or vanilla? KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 01/10/2021 11:24:42 2383929 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Johnjoe I like your words and might borrow bafflingly hastily executed. Brilliant!" Just used that quote in a work meeting this morning..... executive gold Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 01/10/2021 11:26:28 2383930 Link
Poor decision but would have been more acceptable and fair if notice was given that inactive forums would be closed and many of the county forums that were closed were far from inactive. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 01/10/2021 11:30:28 2383935 Link
Replying To Maroonatic: "I don't like it either but I have a certain sympathy. What goes up on a forum can be open to litigation if not properly & constantly moderated. The responsibility is all on the site owners. I mean, I see adventure parks and kid's playgrounds being shut down because of high insurance costs. Car insurance is astronomical, liability cover the same. We Irish do love to sue." Have a look at www.boards.ie sometime if you're not familiar with it already. All posts go up instantly, but there's a facility for other users to report a post if it seems out of order, and volunteer mods review all posts regularly too. A similar system would surely work here too. I don't like the GAA forum on boards.ie, because it's basically what it appears we now have to move towards here. There's just one thread per county, where all GAA matters relating to that county are discussed, instead of there being several sub-threads so that all issues can be discussed separately from each other. And the thing I really don't understand is if the move here really was down to having too many posts to moderate, across too many forums.....surely there'll be the same number of posts anyway, if people just continue to post all their county stuff to the national forum instead? I'm with many others here in hoping for a reply from the admins to address many of the points raised, but it looks at this stage as if we're not going to get it. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 01/10/2021 11:30:30 2383936 Link
Hi All, Enjoyed visiting the Limerick local site which was always very active on a daily basis coming up to games and possibly one of the most active forums of all based on some of the others I visited. Not a good move to get rid of the local forums IMO, as I think it will reduce the number of topics and postings. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 01/10/2021 11:35:56 2383939 Link
Admin, Is it possible to get the stats of which was the most/least active county forums? I remember you provided info like this a couple of years ago. Kerry and Wexford are active I believe. Alays some good discussions on the Limerick one. There was a tread on the Wicklow forum about the current health of hurling in the county which I was following (due to a personal interest) some very well informed and knowledgeable contributors . Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 738 - 01/10/2021 11:38:00 2383940 Link
You're all more than welcome on the Meath forums lads. Who do you guys think will win the Intermediate Championship this year? :) Meath10 (Meath) - Posts: 190 - 01/10/2021 11:57:22 2383944 Link
Just looked at the Cavan forum and it's not that busy, in fairness the meath one is, but so was loads of other county forums more allot so then Cavan and just as busy as meaths, there's plenty of forums too that had next to no traffic so understandable there , but hoganstand need to explain why they kept meath and Cavan and discarded the rest. Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 681 - 01/10/2021 12:02:53 2383945 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Johnjoe I like your words and might borrow bafflingly hastily executed. Brilliant!" True enough G&R, Bafflingly Hastily Executed, BHE is right up there with Haughey's GUBU!! Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3030 - 01/10/2021 12:12:26 2383947 Link
Replying To Meath10: "You're all more than welcome on the Meath forums lads. Who do you guys think will win the Intermediate Championship this year? :)" . Killinkere. They are right on the border so close enough. If they head south they will bate all before them. & Save a few pound on the travel. timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 01/10/2021 13:06:37 2383958 Link
Fair play not to bothered at the end of the day its just an internet forum. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4465 - 01/10/2021 13:13:15 2383962 Link
Replying To Meath10: "You're all more than welcome on the Meath forums lads. Who do you guys think will win the Intermediate Championship this year? :)" Taghmon. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13880 - 01/10/2021 13:18:01 2383964 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "Fair play not to bothered at the end of the day its just an internet forum." Me thinks it's a little bit more than that.? The National forum is no longer user friendly, as time goes on it will get more cumbersome to use. Topics are moving fast on the home page in fact some have moved on to the second page at speed. Even though the National forum wasn't overly inviting to all and sundry never the less everyone knew they could potter around on their own county forum at ease and if they wished. It now appears as if everyone is cooking in the one kitchen and we are tripping over one another searching for our individual post, yesterday I posted a couple of lines to KillingFields (Limerick) asking if he was behind all this and could he get it reversed, (all in jest) but it didn't get through. Personally I don't think this new way of doing things here is going to work out, either it will be reversed or the plug will be pulled, admin are monitoring posters opinions, satisfaction / dissatisfaction all of this will be processed and evaluated fiscally and plan B will be activated accordingly. It matters not who runs the Hoganstand.com business, at the end of the day the GAA have total ownership over all matters that are GAA related with patented / copyrights, etc, etc. therefore the GAA are making money out of this too, so it wouldn't be in their interest to see Hoganstand.com cease or discontinue. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3050 - 01/10/2021 14:08:18 2383978 Link
I really can't understand the uproar regarding this. Its not the end of the world. Just create your county related thread on the main page, instead of having to go to your county page. If half a dozen people from Longford want to discuss their junior championship then they can do this on the related thread on the main page. Like I said before. The reaction to this is totally OTT. Some of you guys really need to get out more. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 922 - 01/10/2021 14:10:15 2383979 Link
The difficulty with hoganstand forms has always been the moderation. It stifles any semblance of coherent discussion as users can wait 12 hours or more for their post to appear. And if it does get rejected, there's no indication that this has happened, why it happened or any means of appeal. As others noted, many special interest forums manage to thrive without engaging nannies, with 'report this post' working to help the users self-moderate. It always struck me as a walled fiefdom here. Maybe its good riddance. TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 205 - 01/10/2021 14:30:26 2383987 Link