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Failed with 50.6% voting in favour. We need change but this is what happens when you put forward 2 bad proposals.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 738 - 23/10/2021 12:58:18    2386928

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Failed, good day for the GAA let's get a better proposal in its place.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 23/10/2021 13:13:22    2386930

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Greed, ignorance, selfishness wins the day.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2897 - 23/10/2021 13:26:10    2386934

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Good day for football, now lower teams have to get their finger out.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 23/10/2021 13:27:50    2386936

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Replying To Whammo86:  "Failed, good day for the GAA let's get a better proposal in its place."
Put the Jim McGuinness proposal before Congress next year.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 738 - 23/10/2021 13:30:08    2386938

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "Actually a 3 tier system is needed."
Good post there.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2897 - 23/10/2021 13:30:47    2386939

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Replying To wexico15:  "Complete nonsense, there all well aware they won't win the All Ireland in any structure, they just want more games for their players further into the year."
At the expense of better teams.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 23/10/2021 13:31:34    2386940

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Colm Parkinson and other supporters now calling for a player strike. Remember that most players didn't respond to the GPA and a strike would make them deeply unpopular within their counties and clubs.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 738 - 23/10/2021 13:33:42    2386941

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That's great news as this proposal was lacking, let the gaa go away now and tweak it to something better,

Personally I'm not against change but changing from 1 unfair system to another unfair system just isn't right.

Let's try and even things up as well by moving dublins quarter final out of Croke Park.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/10/2021 13:42:05    2386944

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Lads what about the dubs getting 6-7 games at home under this new proposal?

dublin should have to play their quarterfinals away from crokepark."
The cash cow that is Dublin will be milked even more by the GAA next year with full stadiums back again.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 23/10/2021 13:43:44    2386945

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Depressing decision. No fans at many provincial championship matches any more. The division 1 teams like Galway and Mayo voting to preserve the status quo smacks of the Super League. Let's make sure to keep out the small counties. God forbid Longford made a quarter final. Shame on the GAA

Rebel2020 (Cork) - Posts: 75 - 23/10/2021 13:45:31    2386946

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It was good imho that the Proposal B was rejected. The elephant in the room was Covid 19. We had a fairly low key championship this year, small crowds, and half full stadia. It will be good to have the crowds back at say Munster hurling final, or Clones.
The media and Govt were not nice to the GAA last year. And this vote is a step in the right direction to reform down the line.
Another issue is the GAA have not got media partners anymore. Who would show the Proposal B matches.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 23/10/2021 13:55:57    2386948

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A very dark day for gaelic football but with no football championship worth looking at next summer it has been some day for the
promotion of hurling! It's an ill wind..

cuttothebone (Kildare) - Posts: 163 - 23/10/2021 13:59:15    2386949

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Replying To Rebel2020:  "Depressing decision. No fans at many provincial championship matches any more. The division 1 teams like Galway and Mayo voting to preserve the status quo smacks of the Super League. Let's make sure to keep out the small counties. God forbid Longford made a quarter final. Shame on the GAA"
God forbid Longford might have to get up to Division 1 or 2 to make a QF. Wouldn't want to make things difficult for them.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 738 - 23/10/2021 14:02:05    2386951

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Replying To Rolo2010:  "Colm Parkinson and other supporters now calling for a player strike. Remember that most players didn't respond to the GPA and a strike would make them deeply unpopular within their counties and clubs."
Sounds like they're anti democracy.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/10/2021 14:07:13    2386952

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For years we've been hearing that the Provincial Championships/Councils is the elephant in the room. What a great chance to kick the big guy out! Today was a day to liberate the GAA football world by creating a pathway to a significantly better future for both players and supporters.
You can talk all you want about tweaking future proposals but its clear that it will be extremely difficult to break from the Provinces.

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 23/10/2021 14:09:02    2386953

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Replying To Whammo86:  "Failed, good day for the GAA let's get a better proposal in its place."
Exactly, let them go away and come back with something better.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/10/2021 14:09:45    2386954

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Sounds like they're anti democracy."
Overseas vote today was 19%
Players was less than 5%
Some Counties had more votes than other Counties!

Democracy?

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 23/10/2021 14:10:39    2386955

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Replying To Soma:  "I think Proposal B is a bad idea but if a team are not good enough to finish in the top 5 in Division 1 what difference does it make if they qualify or not, its only 1 extra championship game they will be getting anyway surely? The team who finish top of division 4 make the knockout phase but will get beat in their first knockout game, probably badly, what benefit is that to them?"
There is usually very little difference between 4th - 6th in Division 1 but regardless of where teams finish in Div 1 it has for some counties taken a lot of hard work, dedication and effort to reach that level.

Proposal B wasn't all bad but the major issue I suspect many had and the reason it was rejected is likely due to handing a team finishing 25th in league standings a place in the knock out stages over a team who finished 6th. Yes find a creative solution to provide a pathway to lower league teams but this proposal was not that solution and it's a good congress have agreed it isn't the right way forward.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 23/10/2021 14:10:44    2386956

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Replying To Rolo2010:  "God forbid Longford might have to get up to Division 1 or 2 to make a QF. Wouldn't want to make things difficult for them."
Let's be honest. If Galway or Mayo come out the right side of the draw in Connacht by avoiding Roscommon (50/50 chance) they are have two shots to win 1 game to be in a Quarter Final. They voted to preserve that inequality .

Rebel2020 (Cork) - Posts: 75 - 23/10/2021 14:14:18    2386957

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