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There's a fair amount of nonsense on here since the game. Mayo were by far the better team. The second half was a hiding to be honest and could have been much worse.
We all knew we'd have problems if Mayo ran at us from deep and the result looked inevitable about 10 minutes into the 2nd half.
If we'd managed to tack on a few points early in the 2nd half it could have built some pressure, but we didn't. Our first 7 or 8 attacks yielded 0 scores, which was unforgivable. While at the other end, Mayo were knocking them over with ease.
From a Galway point of view, Shane Walsh was outstanding in the first half. He was clearly hampered by the injury after that and was carry his arm for the rest of the game. To any Galway supporters who think we'd be better without him, they're in another world. It's a shame he doesn't get more opportunities to show what he can in Croke Park.
The very best of luck to Mayo in the semi final. I think they'll give Dublin/Kildare a serious rattle.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1241 - 26/07/2021 05:29:10    2364151

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Was still confident enough at half time. The breeze at pitch pitch level was strong and Mayo had not played at all first half. Once Mayo moved the ball fast we ran over Galway. Kevin McLouglains introduction was big. We had runners of the shoulder and were coming at Galway in waves.

A game of two halves of ever there was one. Will we beat Dublin? Probably not but it will be an interesting game.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10843 - 26/07/2021 06:58:57    2364153

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "It's interesting that there has been absolutely no inquest into the tunnel incident by Sunday Game analysts. Footage quite clearly demonstrating 3 mayo players throwing punches...wonder why it's being covered up...if I was a Dub I'd be asking some serious questions about the RTE agenda."
Should be an inquest into queues at Tesco on a Saturday morning, far rougher but my missus told me to toughen up.

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 578 - 26/07/2021 08:05:30    2364159

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "It's interesting that there has been absolutely no inquest into the tunnel incident by Sunday Game analysts. Footage quite clearly demonstrating 3 mayo players throwing punches...wonder why it's being covered up...if I was a Dub I'd be asking some serious questions about the RTE agenda."
It was hand bags - stop with the conspiracy theories

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 885 - 26/07/2021 08:23:54    2364162

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "It's interesting that there has been absolutely no inquest into the tunnel incident by Sunday Game analysts. Footage quite clearly demonstrating 3 mayo players throwing punches...wonder why it's being covered up...if I was a Dub I'd be asking some serious questions about the RTE agenda."
Sure Mayo are Rte's wee darlings don't you know, if that halftime brawl involved an Ulster team they'd be pouring over every camera angle to see who they could find guilty of thinking of throwing a punch.
Looking forward to the Dublin mayo match already, if there's a chance of beating Dublin for Mayo it's at semi final stage, Dublin Kerry final is still the most likely outcome, that would be some game.
Maybe Tyrone or Monaghan will upset the whole applecart though and bring Sam north, we live in hope.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1824 - 26/07/2021 09:16:08    2364168

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "The Championship as is suits Dublin Kerry and Mayo, Ulster champs will be battered and bruised as usual, the whole thing needs restructured, if it goes on like it is we'll just get more of the same and maybe that suits the other provinces top teams but it is a very big disadvantage for Ulster teams, we might have to be at our peak in May to try and beat Tyrone for example.
the majority of other counties need a 3 tiered All ireland that they have a chance to win a trophy at their own level."
Ulster a good championship. The overall standard, taking into account all the teams in it is higher than the other 3 provinces. But for a good while now the standard of the best team in the other 3 provinces has been higher than in Ulster.
At the moment I'd say the Ulster counties, who love the Ulster championship would be the biggest opponents of decoupling the provincial championships from the All Ireland.
In recent years, with the way you have Dublin consistently been the best team in the country with Kerry and Mayo consistently been ahead of the rest of the chasing pack.
This situation means few Ulster counties would actually favour decoupling the provincial championships from the All Ireland as they would feel it would devalue their provincial championship.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1008 - 26/07/2021 09:18:45    2364169

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Replying To HighKings:  "That was a legitimate goal in my eyes. He didn't push him, he stood his ground essentially and checked him with his hip. It was naive by the defender who was caught on the wrong side and good play by the forward."
I agree... I wrote that badly and made it seem like I agreed with the ref's decision, which I didn't. As said, half the goals in the game would be disallowed if the forward and defender need to be socially distanced before the ball arrives. Great goal too and thankfully it didn't affect the result.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2451 - 26/07/2021 09:38:55    2364175

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Was still confident enough at half time. The breeze at pitch pitch level was strong and Mayo had not played at all first half. Once Mayo moved the ball fast we ran over Galway. Kevin McLouglains introduction was big. We had runners of the shoulder and were coming at Galway in waves.

A game of two halves of ever there was one. Will we beat Dublin? Probably not but it will be an interesting game."
This is your best chance to beat us yew, ironically without O'Connor. I think Kildare will give us something to think about for the first time in years.
Looks like Kerry's if I'm honest though!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8285 - 26/07/2021 09:44:52    2364178

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Galway yet again fail miserably in Croker . Why?
I have been worried about this set up since the beginning. Players leaving the squad, no defensive plan, poor goalkeeping issues, no kick out strategy, no leaders, no bench, wrong substitution choices.
Once the game was switched our goose was cooked.
Mayo have an excellent manager in Horan and their conditioning and fitness levels are top class. The big pitch suits them.
Now we have the players in the county, we are winning underage titles but we need to ensure these young lads are given the right set up to help them progress.

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 591 - 26/07/2021 10:21:15    2364191

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "The Championship as is suits Dublin Kerry and Mayo, Ulster champs will be battered and bruised as usual, the whole thing needs restructured, if it goes on like it is we'll just get more of the same and maybe that suits the other provinces top teams but it is a very big disadvantage for Ulster teams, we might have to be at our peak in May to try and beat Tyrone for example.
the majority of other counties need a 3 tiered All ireland that they have a chance to win a trophy at their own level."
You can't blame being battered and bruised if you can't beat Cavan in an Ulster final to begin with.

I never heard anyone from Cavan whingeing last year when they were beaten by a better team in the semi-final, they took their beating like proper men and moved on.

I didn't see Down or Derry doing too much battering this year, I recall your own captain getting the line for kicking an opponent though, and you're complaining about being battered when you face real teams!

What's your excuse for the failure of Ulster teams to win Division one titles on a regular basis? Is it because of being battered and bruised as well, surely not?

The last time an Ulster team won a Division one title was 2008, Donegal and Tyrone only ever won one each, the 3 teams you are whingeing about have won 48 between them and have won 9 titles between them since an Ulster team last won one so maybe Ulster teams just aren't as good as you believe at the moment and that's the crux of it, and it has nothing to do with the excuse of being "battered and bruised".

You've been on here the last few weeks telling us how good Ulster football is and how Dublin, Kerry and Mayo don't get proper tests in their provinces, now your whingeing that Ulster teams are tested too much, so which one is it?

Dublin, Kerry and Mayo would relish playing in Ulster.

If you think the likes of Down, Derry or Cavan last year are serious tests, then Donegal have no business even thinking about competing in Croke Park.

The facts are that while Donegal do have a good squad of players they are far too flaky and are still overly dependent on the same man they were a decade ago and if they don't get their act together they could slip to fourth in Ulster never mind in Ireland so I think you have more than enough to focus on without worrying about other counties.

I'm sure Tyrone or Monaghan will relish a crack at Kerry.

Quit the whingeing and get on with it.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 26/07/2021 10:30:52    2364196

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Replying To Pericles:  "I agree... I wrote that badly and made it seem like I agreed with the ref's decision, which I didn't. As said, half the goals in the game would be disallowed if the forward and defender need to be socially distanced before the ball arrives. Great goal too and thankfully it didn't affect the result."
Agreed. I think it should have been allowed too. It was only a slight nudge with the hip, like all good forwards do when jostling for position.
We could have easily conceded 6 or 7 goals in the end. Sean Kelly was a big loss for sure, but our problems ran much deeper than that.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1241 - 26/07/2021 10:45:00    2364201

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "1st Dublin
2nd Kerry
Distance of 10 points plus the rest pretty easy rank it."
Just thinking about it, the margin yesterday was 6 points and Galway beat Roscommon by a similar margin. If you think that the Dubs and Kerry are 10 points better again that'd mean they'd likely beat the Rossies by 22 points+. If you equate Roscommon and Cork at the same level, then you might be right and it's not just a swipe at Mayo. Time will tell.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2451 - 26/07/2021 10:48:42    2364206

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "The Championship as is suits Dublin Kerry and Mayo, Ulster champs will be battered and bruised as usual, the whole thing needs restructured, if it goes on like it is we'll just get more of the same and maybe that suits the other provinces top teams but it is a very big disadvantage for Ulster teams, we might have to be at our peak in May to try and beat Tyrone for example.
the majority of other counties need a 3 tiered All ireland that they have a chance to win a trophy at their own level."
Mayo were facing the same dilemma pre-lockdown compounded by half the panel being in Dublin. For a couple of years the draw handed us Galway under KW in May and to preserve peaking for later the team had to take its chances and ended up with a backdoor journey. The trade-off was not getting too hung up about the provincial title, which most Ulster teams value almost as highly as an All Ireland. Donegal could probably do with leaving thoughts of Ulster titles out of their thinking when a normal championship resumes hopefully next year. There's obviously a risk going the backdoor too, since you can get a strong opponent who was shock beaten early in a different province or have to visit the likes of Longford who'll throw the kitchen sink at you on their patch, but Rochford has a fair bit of experience of what it takes and it'd probably improve Donegal in the long run. Mayo have only won the Connacht titles these last two years because the whole championship is so compressed. If we get back to normal next year and have to face Galway in May there's a good chance Mayo could lose that game and PJ (if he's still there and wants it) will be handed a two or three year extension on the back of "restoring pride" and finally getting one over on James Horan.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2451 - 26/07/2021 11:23:58    2364224

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "It's interesting that there has been absolutely no inquest into the tunnel incident by Sunday Game analysts. Footage quite clearly demonstrating 3 mayo players throwing punches...wonder why it's being covered up...if I was a Dub I'd be asking some serious questions about the RTE agenda."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9if86mdiTHw&ab_channel=Revelation4%3A3

Lets all take a look together shall we?

Give me the time stamp for ''clearly demonstrating 3 mayo players throwing punches''

You absolute spoofer

The only 3 of anything I see is Heaney and two other Galway lads on a lone Aidan oshea

nicko94 (Mayo) - Posts: 53 - 26/07/2021 12:09:10    2364242

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Replying To Pericles:  "Mayo were facing the same dilemma pre-lockdown compounded by half the panel being in Dublin. For a couple of years the draw handed us Galway under KW in May and to preserve peaking for later the team had to take its chances and ended up with a backdoor journey. The trade-off was not getting too hung up about the provincial title, which most Ulster teams value almost as highly as an All Ireland. Donegal could probably do with leaving thoughts of Ulster titles out of their thinking when a normal championship resumes hopefully next year. There's obviously a risk going the backdoor too, since you can get a strong opponent who was shock beaten early in a different province or have to visit the likes of Longford who'll throw the kitchen sink at you on their patch, but Rochford has a fair bit of experience of what it takes and it'd probably improve Donegal in the long run. Mayo have only won the Connacht titles these last two years because the whole championship is so compressed. If we get back to normal next year and have to face Galway in May there's a good chance Mayo could lose that game and PJ (if he's still there and wants it) will be handed a two or three year extension on the back of "restoring pride" and finally getting one over on James Horan."
The qualifiers "miraculously" tend to throw up ulster v ulster games anyway, which are obviously then hosted in ulster and attended handsomely by fans who only have to travel a short distance.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4566 - 26/07/2021 12:40:21    2364249

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Replying To Pericles:  "Just thinking about it, the margin yesterday was 6 points and Galway beat Roscommon by a similar margin. If you think that the Dubs and Kerry are 10 points better again that'd mean they'd likely beat the Rossies by 22 points+. If you equate Roscommon and Cork at the same level, then you might be right and it's not just a swipe at Mayo. Time will tell."
At this time I think we are 10 to 12 behind mayo genuinely we have regressed under current management.
And yes I think we would have gotten a similar thumping off Kerry as cork.
We wouldn't even get a goal opportunity the way we are set up at the moment.
2 years in a row mayo and Galway no goal, no sniff of 1.

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1587 - 26/07/2021 12:42:48    2364251

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Ulster a good championship. The overall standard, taking into account all the teams in it is higher than the other 3 provinces. But for a good while now the standard of the best team in the other 3 provinces has been higher than in Ulster.
At the moment I'd say the Ulster counties, who love the Ulster championship would be the biggest opponents of decoupling the provincial championships from the All Ireland.
In recent years, with the way you have Dublin consistently been the best team in the country with Kerry and Mayo consistently been ahead of the rest of the chasing pack.
This situation means few Ulster counties would actually favour decoupling the provincial championships from the All Ireland as they would feel it would devalue their provincial championship."
They'll come down to earth with a fair bang in a few weeks time and scurry off up north, tail firmly between legs.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 26/07/2021 12:54:53    2364260

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Replying To cavanman47:  "The qualifiers "miraculously" tend to throw up ulster v ulster games anyway, which are obviously then hosted in ulster and attended handsomely by fans who only have to travel a short distance."
Maybe if they don't want to tweak too much they could look at the backdoor and only allow in-province fixtures when there isn't an alternative? Otherwise teams should only be drawn against counties from one of the other 3 provinces. I'm sure that could be fairly implemented in the draws and it would introduce an element of diversity. I can think of one reason why some people wouldn't want to see this though... they'd be giving up the broadcasting sale-ability of two neighbouring rivals in a struggle to the death.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2451 - 26/07/2021 13:34:29    2364275

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "At this time I think we are 10 to 12 behind mayo genuinely we have regressed under current management.
And yes I think we would have gotten a similar thumping off Kerry as cork.
We wouldn't even get a goal opportunity the way we are set up at the moment.
2 years in a row mayo and Galway no goal, no sniff of 1."
I was slated on here for suggesting Cunningham was a poor appointment but he was. Short term impact but no real vision at all. Horrible set up.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7297 - 26/07/2021 13:55:30    2364285

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "At this time I think we are 10 to 12 behind mayo genuinely we have regressed under current management.
And yes I think we would have gotten a similar thumping off Kerry as cork.
We wouldn't even get a goal opportunity the way we are set up at the moment.
2 years in a row mayo and Galway no goal, no sniff of 1."
Hard to understand alright. Diarmuid Murtagh particularly looked to be top class just a few years ago, but when you look at the scores Roscommon are putting up these days they don't tally with the forward talent on view. Not getting ball in quickly enough I'm thinking. Not every team is equipped to do what the Dubs do... they have the 8 to 10 forwards who can keep moving throughout a game enabling them to play that structured possession game and still create scoring chances. Most counties don't have forwards with the same engines but are trying to employ the same tactics. Like going to a car dealer with 10K in your pocket looking to buy a Merc cos the neighbour has a brand new one. Your budget might be better spent on another make.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2451 - 26/07/2021 13:56:29    2364287

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