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No League Finals - A Joke

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Colm Cooper is correct stating no league finals is undermining the integrity of the competitions. Surely one extra match as a final could be facilitated??
The league of Ireland can play a 20 match season , surely to god we can complete a 5 match league schedule ffs. Are the GAA saving money on medals or what??

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 333 - 31/05/2021 10:33:31    2346818

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Replying To OpenStand:  "Colm Cooper is correct stating no league finals is undermining the integrity of the competitions. Surely one extra match as a final could be facilitated??
The league of Ireland can play a 20 match season , surely to god we can complete a 5 match league schedule ffs. Are the GAA saving money on medals or what??"
I'm quite blasé on the finals. Are they really needed? Sure they'll be fine if we can fit them in, but otherwise I'd cut them if needed. Most will be happy to confirm promotion. I'd rather teams were able to prepare sufficiently for their championship match without a final being too close to their opener. And an unfair comparison to LOI, we're having a split season, trying to run off the league and then championship, to then go to club season. They had a head start due to being a pro sport, which they got no matter if you agreed with that or not. In a tight window, it is easily the one I'd cut if things were tight. Is anyone going to realistically remember the finals and who was in them by next year?

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 1126 - 31/05/2021 10:53:50    2346833

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Replying To OpenStand:  "Colm Cooper is correct stating no league finals is undermining the integrity of the competitions. Surely one extra match as a final could be facilitated??
The league of Ireland can play a 20 match season , surely to god we can complete a 5 match league schedule ffs. Are the GAA saving money on medals or what??"
I know we're not in normal times currently and we're all grateful to have some GAA back on our screens, but surely we could squeeze in a league final somewhere/sometime? Joint winners? Come on now.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2508 - 31/05/2021 10:56:43    2346836

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Ah sure that's the Kerry crowd again and they too precious to play that week. GAA accommodating them again.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 31/05/2021 11:05:51    2346842

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Replying To catch22:  "Ah sure that's the Kerry crowd again and they too precious to play that week. GAA accommodating them again."
No division two finals or four either- so GAA accommodating Carlow, Louth, Mayo and Meath too????? I know you are a Dub but really must try harder Jim

the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 31/05/2021 11:10:00    2346849

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Happened in the hurling last year and they just used the first round of Munster as the final as the draw worked out that way.


Why not do the same with the league match between the 2 sides next year? Have them in Croker in front of the biggest crowd in 2 years. . .division 2 and 3 finals on a Saturday, division 1 and 4 finals on the Sunday, and give each team 3 home and 3 away games from their other 6 fixtures.

A great start to next year's league and some closure and reward for teams and fans of the 8 successful teams from this year.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4541 - 31/05/2021 11:11:52    2346850

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The gaa made the rules knowing damn well if Kerry or Donegal made finals in div 1 they would nt let them play. Kerry and Donegal would love to play but again unfair bias. It was easy. Let the top team in both North and south play a final. No that would make sense. The gaa hierarchy are a joke. Hopefully Larry Mac will improve things.
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CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2679 - 31/05/2021 11:28:56    2346856

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We have a 2 week gap now to the semi finals, why was there a need for this? a game a week has been doing teams good, I know I'd rather be playing than training, no reason the leagues couldn't have been finished properly.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1731 - 31/05/2021 11:31:32    2346858

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Replying To tonguey:  "No division two finals or four either- so GAA accommodating Carlow, Louth, Mayo and Meath too????? I know you are a Dub but really must try harder Jim"
Ah don't worry bout him or her Tonguey. For someone in the ús there texting very early lol. catch or mermaid is obseesd with the Kingdom and the bitterness is consuming him or her. Some Kerry person must have ran off with his or hers ex love.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2679 - 31/05/2021 11:40:03    2346861

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "We have a 2 week gap now to the semi finals, why was there a need for this? a game a week has been doing teams good, I know I'd rather be playing than training, no reason the leagues couldn't have been finished properly."
Ya you're right, teams will probably have challenge games set up for next weekend anyway so why not plough right through.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 13447 - 31/05/2021 11:40:42    2346862

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "We have a 2 week gap now to the semi finals, why was there a need for this? a game a week has been doing teams good, I know I'd rather be playing than training, no reason the leagues couldn't have been finished properly."
Agreed or let top in each group play a final. No thinking behind this at all.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2679 - 31/05/2021 11:50:29    2346869

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Especially in hurling, the league is a joke anyway and has been for a few years. It is essentially a pre-season competition. There will be no league final in hurling this year unless the teams qualifying for it play each other in the championship. And if that comes about this year, will anyone actually care that there's a league trophy at stake? Not at all ....the only thing that will matter is winning the championship match and getting through to the next round / winning Liam. If all those other pre-season competitions are dispensed with (I.e. Walsh Cup, Waterford Crystal) then the loss of status that the hurling league has is no problem as it will serve its purpose as a slightly competitive warm up for the championship

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1593 - 31/05/2021 11:56:22    2346875

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Replying To Dubsfan28:  "I know we're not in normal times currently and we're all grateful to have some GAA back on our screens, but surely we could squeeze in a league final somewhere/sometime? Joint winners? Come on now."
Of course it could be fitted in. If Tyrone beat Kerry and you beat Donegal there will be a final. They should ve just let top of North and south play each other in final or else forget the two week gap and play a final.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2679 - 31/05/2021 12:04:14    2346882

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Especially in hurling, the league is a joke anyway and has been for a few years. It is essentially a pre-season competition. There will be no league final in hurling this year unless the teams qualifying for it play each other in the championship. And if that comes about this year, will anyone actually care that there's a league trophy at stake? Not at all ....the only thing that will matter is winning the championship match and getting through to the next round / winning Liam. If all those other pre-season competitions are dispensed with (I.e. Walsh Cup, Waterford Crystal) then the loss of status that the hurling league has is no problem as it will serve its purpose as a slightly competitive warm up for the championship"
Agreed a pure joke.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2679 - 31/05/2021 12:05:01    2346883

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Replying To catch22:  "Ah sure that's the Kerry crowd again and they too precious to play that week. GAA accommodating them again."
For a man who claims to give Kerry little thought here you are again talking about them

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 703 - 31/05/2021 12:06:21    2346886

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "I'm quite blasé on the finals. Are they really needed? Sure they'll be fine if we can fit them in, but otherwise I'd cut them if needed. Most will be happy to confirm promotion. I'd rather teams were able to prepare sufficiently for their championship match without a final being too close to their opener. And an unfair comparison to LOI, we're having a split season, trying to run off the league and then championship, to then go to club season. They had a head start due to being a pro sport, which they got no matter if you agreed with that or not. In a tight window, it is easily the one I'd cut if things were tight. Is anyone going to realistically remember the finals and who was in them by next year?"
I agree, a league is just that, a round robin competition, league finals are just add ons we dont need, pointless.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4727 - 31/05/2021 12:17:46    2346899

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Of course it could be fitted in. If Tyrone beat Kerry and you beat Donegal there will be a final. They should ve just let top of North and south play each other in final or else forget the two week gap and play a final."
That would've meant some forward thinking and not some rushed in nonsense like we have seen.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2508 - 31/05/2021 12:24:42    2346906

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Especially in hurling, the league is a joke anyway and has been for a few years. It is essentially a pre-season competition. There will be no league final in hurling this year unless the teams qualifying for it play each other in the championship. And if that comes about this year, will anyone actually care that there's a league trophy at stake? Not at all ....the only thing that will matter is winning the championship match and getting through to the next round / winning Liam. If all those other pre-season competitions are dispensed with (I.e. Walsh Cup, Waterford Crystal) then the loss of status that the hurling league has is no problem as it will serve its purpose as a slightly competitive warm up for the championship"
Might be for the top 8 teams or so but the National Hurling League is highly competitive and taken very seriously....there is more to hurling than 8 teams

ArmaghCat (Armagh) - Posts: 86 - 31/05/2021 12:26:35    2346907

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For most counties in divisions 2-4, the aim is promotion, the final Is a bonus, but in fairness, the likes of Louth and Carlow would love to play for a trophy as the championship is meaningless to them.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1591 - 31/05/2021 12:46:47    2346915

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Like something out of Father Ted, teams entering a competition no team can actually win.
The GAA falling over themselves to be the most Covid Compliant organisation in the world.

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 333 - 31/05/2021 13:06:49    2346928

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