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Dublin Vs Kerry

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Replying To sligo joe:  "I know that, so are you saying, leaving Dublin's covid issues aside, Dublin would have no home league game this year. If there was a rule that home advantage was rotated with each fixture then in the normal 7 game division 1, with two teams promoted a team could conceiveably have 6 away games or indeed 6 home games."
That's rubbish and would never happen... The games would/should be rotated each year for home/away advantage... with the 2 teams promoted taking the place of the 2 relegated teams... eg.. if Dublin were at home to the 2 relegated teams one season they would travel to both the promoted sides the following season and simply reverse the other 5 fixtures... not rocket science but maybe a bit too much for some...including the GAA fixtures committee...!!!!!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 286 - 24/05/2021 22:33:19    2345218

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Replying To TheUsername:  "You think hes from Cavan!!

Bless."
I am from Cavan- have you an issue with that??

Bit rich coming from you with your multiple "usernames." That is fairly sad stuff but I suppose your different accounts can agree with each other- give yourself a little morale boost!!

the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 25/05/2021 10:22:04    2345288

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Really? I think there are at least 4 legitimate contenders to Dublin this year. They're nowhere near as dominant as they once were, they were really lucky to win last years all Ireland, and the young lads coming through aren't as good as the older fellas who are retiring.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go offline for a while. I'm getting too distracted by all those flying pigs."
"Really lucky" just curious it what way where they really lucky?

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 25/05/2021 12:27:46    2345328

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Replying To greatpoint:  "I see the "this is the year that Kerry take down the Dubs" narrative is back in full flow from nearly every outlet. Hasn't happened in well over a decade and it won't be happening this year either."
I flagged that last week the media would be bigging us up, although I thought we'd be bate by 5-6 points which really we should have been if dublin took their chances, I seen nothing from our lads on Sunday that would give me confidence of us beating the Ulster champs not to mind dublin.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 13615 - 25/05/2021 12:43:26    2345339

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "I flagged that last week the media would be bigging us up, although I thought we'd be bate by 5-6 points which really we should have been if dublin took their chances, I seen nothing from our lads on Sunday that would give me confidence of us beating the Ulster champs not to mind dublin."
Dublin got 3 goals on Sunday, down Kerry's right side of defence Kingdom. It was a big test for Kerry after the Galway game, and Dublin were a different challenge. In my opinion, Kerry were denied a goal by the new advantage rule in the first half. It favoured Dublin in that case.
Kerry will learn from the game, I still regard them as Dublin's main threat in 2021.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 390 - 25/05/2021 13:24:57    2345356

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "That's rubbish and would never happen... The games would/should be rotated each year for home/away advantage... with the 2 teams promoted taking the place of the 2 relegated teams... eg.. if Dublin were at home to the 2 relegated teams one season they would travel to both the promoted sides the following season and simply reverse the other 5 fixtures... not rocket science but maybe a bit too much for some...including the GAA fixtures committee...!!!!!"
So a team like Roscommon getting promoted and relegated every second year might never get a home game v Dublin depending on who got relegated?

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 25/05/2021 13:48:49    2345370

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Replying To sligo joe:  "So a team like Roscommon getting promoted and relegated every second year might never get a home game v Dublin depending on who got relegated?"
I think that would be unfair on Roscommon to be honest- they only get to play the best teams every second year at best and why should they be denied their little moment in the sun and the chance to play in Croke Park on their turn? It is always a big day out for us smaller counties so this rule is ridiculous. I would not like it anyway.

the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 25/05/2021 15:09:25    2345390

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Peter Keane must be concerrrned how a team that plays the ball backwards so incessantly like Dublin got so many scores on his defensive thing. If this hull breach isn't sorted then Kerry will become a sinking ship that cannot ever refloat for a trip to glory. It will be collaaaa for his team.

the_creeler (Leitrim) - Posts: 119 - 25/05/2021 15:10:58    2345392

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Replying To MicktheMiller:  "Dublin got 3 goals on Sunday, down Kerry's right side of defence Kingdom. It was a big test for Kerry after the Galway game, and Dublin were a different challenge. In my opinion, Kerry were denied a goal by the new advantage rule in the first half. It favoured Dublin in that case.
Kerry will learn from the game, I still regard them as Dublin's main threat in 2021."
You're correct mick, and ya we'll learn a lot from the game the last day but will we learn enough to beat dublin in Croke Park should we get that far? And whereas our players will improve and get fitter can they improve and get fit enough to get us over line I'm not sure, we have what we have now and its up to the kerry management to sort it out.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 13615 - 25/05/2021 15:16:27    2345395

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We are looking with only couple weeks training. i can smell the success coming our way.

kerry4sam21 (Kerry) - Posts: 58 - 25/05/2021 15:16:39    2345396

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Replying To the_creeler:  "Peter Keane must be concerrrned how a team that plays the ball backwards so incessantly like Dublin got so many scores on his defensive thing. If this hull breach isn't sorted then Kerry will become a sinking ship that cannot ever refloat for a trip to glory. It will be collaaaa for his team."
Of course he is Creeler as are all Kerry fans. We have such talented forwards and footballers but our defending can let us down big time. Having said that 2 of the 4 goals were a result of Dublin's brilliance but the other two were naive defensive errors. With the scoring talent Kerry have at their disposal at mó I would be confident of beating any team if we could stop the concession of goals. However its easier said than done. Kerry outscore many teams but goals kill us. Anyway it's better find the weaknesses now before the championship.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2741 - 25/05/2021 15:29:12    2345400

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Replying To sligo joe:  "So a team like Roscommon getting promoted and relegated every second year might never get a home game v Dublin depending on who got relegated?"
That is not the issue..... I am merely making the point that a team will never have 6 out of 7 games at home or 6 out of 7 away for that matter which is what you were trying to say could happen....!!!!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 286 - 25/05/2021 16:20:31    2345416

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Replying To tonguey:  "I am from Cavan- have you an issue with that??

Bit rich coming from you with your multiple "usernames." That is fairly sad stuff but I suppose your different accounts can agree with each other- give yourself a little morale boost!!"
Ha ha ha!

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4144 - 25/05/2021 16:41:39    2345427

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Replying To kerry4sam21:  "We are looking with only couple weeks training. i can smell the success coming our way."
Not as much as everyone here smells the rat Jack. :-)

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 25/05/2021 16:45:11    2345429

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "That is not the issue..... I am merely making the point that a team will never have 6 out of 7 games at home or 6 out of 7 away for that matter which is what you were trying to say could happen....!!!!"
There is no rule dictating a rotation of home and away between individual teams but if there was and it was applied with respect to a team's last game against specific opposition including the promoted teams then a team could have 6 away games, i.e if the 4 teams that team A played at home were not relegated and team A's last games against the 2 promoted teams were at home. This could not happen in your system where the promoted teams home fixtures would be based on the teams they displaced. No such system exists as there is no rule. My original post re 6 away games was regarding alternate home and away rule for all teams promoted or not.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 25/05/2021 18:25:18    2345453

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Replying To MicktheMiller:  "Dublin got 3 goals on Sunday, down Kerry's right side of defence Kingdom. It was a big test for Kerry after the Galway game, and Dublin were a different challenge. In my opinion, Kerry were denied a goal by the new advantage rule in the first half. It favoured Dublin in that case.
Kerry will learn from the game, I still regard them as Dublin's main threat in 2021."
In fairness to the ref on the disallowed goal, he had blown for the foul a good bit before the shot was taken. The reason he couldn't allow the advantage was because it would have been overcarrying. He can't allow steps, just because a foul has been committed.
Damien Comer had a great goal chalked off against Kildare in the 2018 round robin for steps. His marker was climbing all over him as he burst through, so definitely too a few extra. The problem in that case was he didn't even get free-in.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1142 - 25/05/2021 20:52:18    2345499

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Replying To sligo joe:  "There is no rule dictating a rotation of home and away between individual teams but if there was and it was applied with respect to a team's last game against specific opposition including the promoted teams then a team could have 6 away games, i.e if the 4 teams that team A played at home were not relegated and team A's last games against the 2 promoted teams were at home. This could not happen in your system where the promoted teams home fixtures would be based on the teams they displaced. No such system exists as there is no rule. My original post re 6 away games was regarding alternate home and away rule for all teams promoted or not."
That makes no sense.... My explained system is the only logical way of having a fair set up... but the odd number of games (7) always leads to controversy as a Country sometimes end up with 4 away games 2/3 years running... but even this is generally avoidable with a bit of common sense.... which in the GAA is unfortunately not too common...!!!!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 286 - 25/05/2021 22:29:21    2345530

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "That's rubbish and would never happen... The games would/should be rotated each year for home/away advantage... with the 2 teams promoted taking the place of the 2 relegated teams... eg.. if Dublin were at home to the 2 relegated teams one season they would travel to both the promoted sides the following season and simply reverse the other 5 fixtures... not rocket science but maybe a bit too much for some...including the GAA fixtures committee...!!!!!"
That would be a sensible way of doing things Forever blue. The gaa don't do sense. It's not a big problem this year really but it can be very unfair for supporters and an extra expense for them when things are not done fairly. Also the league is usually played over the early months making travel more tedious for supporters.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2741 - 26/05/2021 08:11:54    2345557

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "That makes no sense.... My explained system is the only logical way of having a fair set up... but the odd number of games (7) always leads to controversy as a Country sometimes end up with 4 away games 2/3 years running... but even this is generally avoidable with a bit of common sense.... which in the GAA is unfortunately not too common...!!!!"
I am just explaining that if there was an absolute system of home and away as suggested by another post it could lead to a 6 to 1 breakdown home and away, I am not proposing it. Your suggested system would not lead to that, I know that and makes sense. The only negative in your system is a team like Roscommon getting promoted every 2nd year could end up playing, say Dublin, away always, if the relegated teams had been home to Dublin.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 26/05/2021 09:11:40    2345563

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "That would be a sensible way of doing things Forever blue. The gaa don't do sense. It's not a big problem this year really but it can be very unfair for supporters and an extra expense for them when things are not done fairly. Also the league is usually played over the early months making travel more tedious for supporters."
Well it would be time the Dublin supporters would be out of pocket a bit for travelling outside their boundary

the_creeler (Leitrim) - Posts: 119 - 26/05/2021 09:22:12    2345565

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