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One could say the sending off was a bit harsh as their was nothing dangerous in the tackle (other accidental ones were more dangerous without any cards). The Tyrone player sent off was on a previous yellow so he needs to learn that two yellows is a red card. Tyrone's poor shooting close in cost them the match. It is just a pity that they play each other in first round Ulster (if I am correct). Some very good scores by both teams/individuals.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2276 - 15/05/2021 23:18:56    2342183

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Replying To panamasam:  "With all due respect Kevin he has to stand up for himself with some of the treatment he gets. Maybe sometimes he does go down a bit too early but maybe that is now a natural reaction to protect himself from some of the hits he has taken particularly to the head. You only realise how targeted Ryan is when you go to a game and see what happens to him off the ball usually a fair distance from where the ball is. Often seen him literally rugby tackled when starting to make a run some 30 metres plus from where the ball is."
I take yout point. I get that he gets targeted a lot but so dies Peter harte in every game. But you don't see Peter going down easily. Tierarn McCann jokes aside lol

Aside from that the main issue I have with him is his constant crying to officals. He is constantly at the officials ear complaining. Pick any championship game in the next few months and count the amount of times he is moaning to the official even if he hasn't been involved in the tackle I can guarantee he will be beside them complaining.

Anyway it is great to have the gaelic back on and to have something to debate about. Looking forward to all the matches and getting up to Donegal for he holidays. Pints, matches, banter and great scenery it's hard to beat.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 260 - 15/05/2021 23:38:40    2342194

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As the old saying goes - if we beat them anymore we get to keep them.

Surely we get to keep Tyrone at this stage now folks...???

eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1221 - 16/05/2021 08:10:50    2342216

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Donegal will win ulster and should have won it last year apart from a brain [email protected] game.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17778 - 16/05/2021 09:13:07    2342229

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Replying To thelowball:  "Good run out for both teams. Ryan does come for his share of attention, no way was O Neills tackle a yellow. Being small in stature, always leading with head on the run he is subject to hits. Don't think he is a diver.Both teams could say that they were not at full strength, the old guard for Donegal showing the way.Is McCole a championship player? mcMenamin, Ban and McGrath if fully fit would rate ahead of him. Pray tell what is Bonner waiting for with regards to Gallen. 5 mins at end doesn't do anything for his confidence. Get him in the game. Tyrone's forward set up very strange as it proved on day to be wasteful. They have uncovered a gem in Donaghy, no Canavan until late, where is McShane,would have to be recovered from injury by now?Mickey Harte may not have been Tyrone's problem ! As for Bonner ,under pressure to deliver,especially with Kerry's demolition of Galway."
How does Kerry's demolition of Galway put pressure on bonner, surely you can't blame him for Galway s performance but knowing your history you probably do.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1105 - 16/05/2021 09:41:14    2342236

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With regards McHugh, yes he does complain a lot but he has a point in that there is a lot of off the ball stuff going on in every game that the linesmen should be pulling up but don't. Someone like McHugh relies on his speed rather than strength & if he is being constantly impeded then I would imagine it could get pretty frustrating.
As to the game itself, I enjoyed it. The difference was that Tyrone took some bad shooting decisions wheras Donegal were more clinical but with key players missing on both sides I wouldn't be reading too much into this as regards the championship.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5003 - 16/05/2021 09:56:39    2342237

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Replying To kevin03:  "I take yout point. I get that he gets targeted a lot but so dies Peter harte in every game. But you don't see Peter going down easily. Tierarn McCann jokes aside lol

Aside from that the main issue I have with him is his constant crying to officals. He is constantly at the officials ear complaining. Pick any championship game in the next few months and count the amount of times he is moaning to the official even if he hasn't been involved in the tackle I can guarantee he will be beside them complaining.

Anyway it is great to have the gaelic back on and to have something to debate about. Looking forward to all the matches and getting up to Donegal for he holidays. Pints, matches, banter and great scenery it's hard to beat."
Agree that McHugh's complaining/bitching is really irritating and granted Peter Harte does not do that, but if you believe Peter is not right up there in attempting to "buy" frees then really you need to look again.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 16/05/2021 10:47:52    2342253

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Replying To kevin03:  "It was a tackle to his arm holding the ball. Wasn't a shot to the guts. He didn't dive on this occasion but he went down like he had been shot. He's a top quality player which is why it annoys me even more when he acts like he shouldn't be tackled. Can't stand Michael mckieran on the Tyrone team either for similar behaviour.

Over all how happy are the Donegal fans with their teams performance today? Tyrone seemed flat today but suppose we can't look too much into the first game."
Like Tyrone probably have 4 lads to come back into the starting team.

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 730 - 16/05/2021 11:15:26    2342258

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Agree that McHugh's complaining/bitching is really irritating and granted Peter Harte does not do that, but if you believe Peter is not right up there in attempting to "buy" frees then really you need to look again."
No doubt Peter and nearly every player buys frees. However you don't see those players constantly shouting at the ref like mchugh, he tries to ref the bloody game. More annoying is when he wasn't even involved in the foul he is over shouting anyway.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 260 - 16/05/2021 12:15:41    2342278

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Donegal will win ulster and should have won it last year apart from a brain [email protected] game."
Disagree with a lot of this comment.

I watched cavan u21s beat us in 2013 and 2014. Both matches they were deserved winners. The backbone of the current team are made up of these players. Maybe they will get it right again this year, who knows?

Taking nothing for granted anymore. Cavan in the ulster final. Mayo in castlebar. Tyrone in Ballybofey. 3 games we were pumped up going into the match for by our own supporters and the media too. I won't fall for it again, gotta respect the opposition for what they are.

Having said that, winning in Omagh is a great result and one that we will take any day of the week. Well done lads.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3809 - 16/05/2021 14:44:56    2342337

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@rory, Was that the Galway team in disguise in last years Ulster final v Cavan? Donegal could be close but won't get there as long as Bonners around. History me boy!

thelowball (USA) - Posts: 353 - 16/05/2021 14:46:45    2342338

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Replying To kevin03:  "I take yout point. I get that he gets targeted a lot but so dies Peter harte in every game. But you don't see Peter going down easily. Tierarn McCann jokes aside lol

Aside from that the main issue I have with him is his constant crying to officals. He is constantly at the officials ear complaining. Pick any championship game in the next few months and count the amount of times he is moaning to the official even if he hasn't been involved in the tackle I can guarantee he will be beside them complaining.

Anyway it is great to have the gaelic back on and to have something to debate about. Looking forward to all the matches and getting up to Donegal for he holidays. Pints, matches, banter and great scenery it's hard to beat."
Yes but did Peter Harte have to step away from the game for a few months on account of doctors advice due to numerous concussions from head trauma? Might explain why Ryan is so vocal now when some of those hits went unpunished.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2649 - 16/05/2021 18:02:15    2342442

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Replying To panamasam:  "Yes but did Peter Harte have to step away from the game for a few months on account of doctors advice due to numerous concussions from head trauma? Might explain why Ryan is so vocal now when some of those hits went unpunished."
I think it could happen that fellas will end up wearing protective head gear like Peter Cech used to wear, Ryan takes an awful lot of hits to the head, he is small and fast and hard for a bigger man to tackle him without fouling him I suppose,
good game today between Armagh and Monaghan, nothing is easy in Ulster, hard to say who'll be in the relegation play off yet, I think there's a lot more to come from Tyrone and the Cavan game we'll see them shaping up better, not sure of this joint manager set up Tyrone have, think there has to be one man in charge.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1766 - 16/05/2021 20:03:54    2342515

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If we're going to continue to talk about diving, the most blatant one I've seen in manys a year came late in the game yesterday, with Daragh Canavan carrying on the family tradition. The resulting free was scored, but had no impact on the end result, so I can see why its not being called out.

Good to get the win yesterday, but hard to read into anything, things will be a lot different come championship time when I expect these two teams to meet again,

petejoeduff (Donegal) - Posts: 328 - 16/05/2021 20:36:38    2342527

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Replying To panamasam:  "Yes but did Peter Harte have to step away from the game for a few months on account of doctors advice due to numerous concussions from head trauma? Might explain why Ryan is so vocal now when some of those hits went unpunished."
Exactly. When you're asking the ref for protection from constant fouling, you're a diver and a whinger according to some. If the officials would do their job right he might not need to stand up for himself. It seems Gaelic Football is a sport where it's okay to be fouled continuously and the answer is to man up.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1015 - 16/05/2021 20:37:55    2342528

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Exactly. When you're asking the ref for protection from constant fouling, you're a diver and a whinger according to some. If the officials would do their job right he might not need to stand up for himself. It seems Gaelic Football is a sport where it's okay to be fouled continuously and the answer is to man up."
Not going to disagree. Cynical fouling needs stopped but he's not the only one to recieve it. Every good player gets it but doesn't resort to the constant screaming in officals face that Ryan does. I wouldn't have such an issue with it if he just did it when he is fouled but it doesn't matter who is fouled mchugh is always at the ref side shouting.


Like I said before, just watch any game and come back to me on how many times he beside an offical shouting. You will be surprised.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 260 - 16/05/2021 22:05:32    2342572

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Exactly. When you're asking the ref for protection from constant fouling, you're a diver and a whinger according to some. If the officials would do their job right he might not need to stand up for himself. It seems Gaelic Football is a sport where it's okay to be fouled continuously and the answer is to man up."
Agree with what your saying, Sean Cavanagh was always getting fouled off the ball as well. Refs and linesmen mightn't see these fouls as they're keeping up with the game but umpires have no excuse for not seeing this fouling going on, their standing doing nothing with a full view of the field. Even with close calls for points they standing looking at each other not knowing whether to make a call or not. Not just Donegal players being fouled, all top players get the treatment.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 895 - 16/05/2021 22:16:55    2342579

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Agree with what your saying, Sean Cavanagh was always getting fouled off the ball as well. Refs and linesmen mightn't see these fouls as they're keeping up with the game but umpires have no excuse for not seeing this fouling going on, their standing doing nothing with a full view of the field. Even with close calls for points they standing looking at each other not knowing whether to make a call or not. Not just Donegal players being fouled, all top players get the treatment."
I agree about Cavanagh and other top players getting the treatment but to be fair, as another poster has alluded to, McHugh has suffered enough concussion to highlight that he gets an extra layer of it. Players who come from deep at pace tend to get this treatment more than corner forwards where defenders are less obvious about fouling for obvious reasons. Anything seems to go out the field at times and especially off the ball. Agree totally about umpires who seem to see nothing or care little.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1015 - 17/05/2021 08:06:32    2342636

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If Donegal and Tyrone do meet in the Ulster semi final as many are expecting it will be a mouth watering encounter that's for sure anyway, long way to go before that and I hope Bonner has learned the lesson well from last year,
I think the refereeing is even more complicated now by new rules, a lot of umpires do very little and would rather the ref and linesmen take any flack than them, cynical tactical fouling on and off the ball has to be stamped out,

Paul Donaghy made a name for himself nationally on Saturday evening, why was this man not playing for Tyrone before? if Tyrone get firing on all cylinders and cut down the wide count they will take some stopping.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1766 - 17/05/2021 10:15:08    2342678

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Replying To petejoeduff:  "If we're going to continue to talk about diving, the most blatant one I've seen in manys a year came late in the game yesterday, with Daragh Canavan carrying on the family tradition. The resulting free was scored, but had no impact on the end result, so I can see why its not being called out.

Good to get the win yesterday, but hard to read into anything, things will be a lot different come championship time when I expect these two teams to meet again,"
Canavan's was a clear foul. Don't think many Donegal fans would suggest otherwise. It was a clear blank card as well.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1945 - 17/05/2021 19:02:57    2342895

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