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I think even this early it's clear to see mayo will be promoted. There is a almighty scramble though who will go up with them and who will go down with any of the other 7 counties in contention for both.
I'm hopeful it will be Meath who join them, however until after tomorrow it's all only guessing and looking through green and gold eyes.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/05/2021 17:55:31    2341995

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Replying To downtothecore:  "Mayo faced a team today that had no kick out strategy or strategy for the Mayo kick outs so when you face a team at this level with these issues then result is only going one way. I think Mayo are good but I would not say awesome."
I don't disagree. Mayo are still experimenting and finding new payers with a big turnover from the old guard in the last three years. That's why I think division 2 suits us this year with the short snap season. That said nothing is guaranteed so happy with today but by no means getting carried away.

Down gave away a lot of ball and were easily turned over at times but as I said above, O Hagan is a real talent.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 15/05/2021 18:49:06    2342026

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Replying To seadog54:  "Great win today, same again next week and then rest first 15 for championship, even that might not be enough for us."
Now that's what I was thinking. They need a good rest after a win next week :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/05/2021 18:58:33    2342042

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Down were very poor yesterday apart from the odd individual performance, but as a team they weren't at the races at all and seemed to accept the inevitable once Tommy Conroy stuck the ball in the net. I was expecting a sticky encounter from them as they've some very good individuals. There were some very good performances from a few of the Mayo players as mentioned by other posters, but there were also a lot of patches of bad passing and possession being given away too, so really a spluttery performance which hopefully will improve. The conditions were a certainly a factor, with the heavy showers making ball carrying a foolish option and both teams got caught by that. It's good to start with a win and move on to next week. We'll see what Westmeath have to offer later. If Meath and Mayo both win their two opening rounds then the round between them could be reduced to a training exercise.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 16/05/2021 11:55:26    2342270

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Good to get games back. Not sure what to expect this year from ourselves. Last year's hammering by Dublin in Leinster championship was must have been difficult for the lads to take as beforehand we really seemed to be improving (we gave Dublin a good rattle in the league). I really hope the lads can move on from that this year and there is no bad mental scars left.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1349 - 16/05/2021 14:35:59    2342328

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Very pandemic hang over feel to game. Some basic errors, but at this stage and the way league is structured a win is all that counts. Tried direct playing for first half went back to running game for second with introduction of McMahon and Conlon. Scully made a impact when he came on too, all the subs added a impact which wasn't always the case in years gone by. That been said there was a lot of for the want of a better word , cobwebs, that needed to be blown off, hopefully that will bring on the team. On to next week with hope more so than any clear confidence. But it's always better to play bad and win than play great and get beat.
Hon the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/05/2021 18:13:36    2342449

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Very pandemic hang over feel to game. Some basic errors, but at this stage and the way league is structured a win is all that counts. Tried direct playing for first half went back to running game for second with introduction of McMahon and Conlon. Scully made a impact when he came on too, all the subs added a impact which wasn't always the case in years gone by. That been said there was a lot of for the want of a better word , cobwebs, that needed to be blown off, hopefully that will bring on the team. On to next week with hope more so than any clear confidence. But it's always better to play bad and win than play great and get beat.
Hon the royal"
As you say subs got us over the line, good to see Eamon Wallace playing so well when introduced. We looked very nervy at times but ground out an important win. Colgan played well in goals getting his kickouts right majority of time. Rode our luck today but two points in the bag.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 16/05/2021 19:31:32    2342498

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We had a surprisingly comfortable win against Cork, (though some poor finishing on their part helped). Next week against Clare is now a crunch game as winner should be through to playoff. Clare looked very impressive today and beat us last year, we are at home for this one so I'd say it is a 50/50 game. Dan Flynn came off with a hamstring injury so he will be out, but we have good options now in the forward line and Neil Flynn showed again he is different class from the dead ball.

NorthKildare (Kildare) - Posts: 197 - 17/05/2021 00:07:42    2342620

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Clare v Kildare. Draw
Mayo v Westmeath. Mayor
Down v Meath. Meath
Laois v Cork. Cork.

The hard one to call (I say hopefully) is Clare v Kildare, either could win, Clare beat Kildare last year. So I went for the draw

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/05/2021 12:04:20    2343581

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Replying To Pericles:  "Down were very poor yesterday apart from the odd individual performance, but as a team they weren't at the races at all and seemed to accept the inevitable once Tommy Conroy stuck the ball in the net. I was expecting a sticky encounter from them as they've some very good individuals. There were some very good performances from a few of the Mayo players as mentioned by other posters, but there were also a lot of patches of bad passing and possession being given away too, so really a spluttery performance which hopefully will improve. The conditions were a certainly a factor, with the heavy showers making ball carrying a foolish option and both teams got caught by that. It's good to start with a win and move on to next week. We'll see what Westmeath have to offer later. If Meath and Mayo both win their two opening rounds then the round between them could be reduced to a training exercise."
I'd expect Mayo and Meath to stay in the top two places in Div 2 North. Kildare should have enough to hold on to top spot in Div 2 South but I believe Cork will wrestle Clare out of second spot. If that transpires then both Mayo and Meath could have tricky enough semi finals against Cork and Kildare respectively and if Mayo win then no League final will take place and both they and the winner of the second semi final will be promoted.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 20/05/2021 16:22:13    2343707

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Its hard to know how much to take from last week's games and where teams are at. I felt Mayo and Kildare were better than expected with Meath and Laois a bit further away than expected. Its hard to know how much that was because of Down / Cork / Westmeath / Clare so this weekend will tell a good bit.

Kildare V Clare - Kildare
Westmeath V Mayo - Mayo
Down v Meath. Down
Laois v Cork. Cork

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 281 - 20/05/2021 17:20:54    2343721

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "I'd expect Mayo and Meath to stay in the top two places in Div 2 North. Kildare should have enough to hold on to top spot in Div 2 South but I believe Cork will wrestle Clare out of second spot. If that transpires then both Mayo and Meath could have tricky enough semi finals against Cork and Kildare respectively and if Mayo win then no League final will take place and both they and the winner of the second semi final will be promoted."
Why will no final take place. Just want ur opinion on that. I know they said unlikely, but why not ? Is it cause mayo will be out earlier than the other counties?

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/05/2021 17:22:05    2343722

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Replying To royaldunne:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "I'd expect Mayo and Meath to stay in the top two places in Div 2 North. Kildare should have enough to hold on to top spot in Div 2 South but I believe Cork will wrestle Clare out of second spot. If that transpires then both Mayo and Meath could have tricky enough semi finals against Cork and Kildare respectively and if Mayo win then no League final will take place and both they and the winner of the second semi final will be promoted."
Why will no final take place. Just want ur opinion on that. I know they said unlikely, but why not ? Is it cause mayo will be out earlier than the other counties?"
Because looking at the fixtures I see Mayo v Sligo is scheduled to played on June 26th which is a week after the League final is scheduled to take place and my understanding is that if a team who reaches the final is scheduled to play the weekend after in the Championship, then no final will take place.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 20/05/2021 17:41:36    2343728

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Replying To royaldunne:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "I'd expect Mayo and Meath to stay in the top two places in Div 2 North. Kildare should have enough to hold on to top spot in Div 2 South but I believe Cork will wrestle Clare out of second spot. If that transpires then both Mayo and Meath could have tricky enough semi finals against Cork and Kildare respectively and if Mayo win then no League final will take place and both they and the winner of the second semi final will be promoted."
Why will no final take place. Just want ur opinion on that. I know they said unlikely, but why not ? Is it cause mayo will be out earlier than the other counties?"
Royaldunne, I heard this, not sure if it's true , that any divisional finals with teams out in championship the next week, won't go ahead. Seems ridiculous and surely they could push the championship games out a week in that case so teams can compete for silverware.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 20/05/2021 17:48:07    2343731

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One thing the GAA seem to have forgotten about is what happens if a team involved in a relegation play-off is scheduled to play in the Championship the following weekend. It's unlikely to be an issue at the moment but theoretically it could still happen.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 20/05/2021 18:14:42    2343738

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Replying To NorthKildare:  "We had a surprisingly comfortable win against Cork, (though some poor finishing on their part helped). Next week against Clare is now a crunch game as winner should be through to playoff. Clare looked very impressive today and beat us last year, we are at home for this one so I'd say it is a 50/50 game. Dan Flynn came off with a hamstring injury so he will be out, but we have good options now in the forward line and Neil Flynn showed again he is different class from the dead ball."
All that extra training did us no good ffs! Cork...not Kildare btw.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 20/05/2021 18:26:04    2343743

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "I'd expect Mayo and Meath to stay in the top two places in Div 2 North. Kildare should have enough to hold on to top spot in Div 2 South but I believe Cork will wrestle Clare out of second spot. If that transpires then both Mayo and Meath could have tricky enough semi finals against Cork and Kildare respectively and if Mayo win then no League final will take place and both they and the winner of the second semi final will be promoted."
Westmeath were a bit unfortunate last weekend and could/should have secured the points. I expect Mayo won't have the cruise they had against Down for most of the game but they'll come out and perform to a level so Westmeath will need to match the effort. If they do it'll be close if they can get good quick ball into Heslin and co. I still expect Mayo will get over the line by a few points.

On the evidence of last weekend Down would need to show a lot of improvement to take the points off Meath and Meath are likely to be better themselves than last Sunday, so on that basis they should win by 6+.

Based too on last week, It's likely Cork will take the points against Laois, but I wouldn't put someone else's house on them!

Kildare v Clare should be a good game, with both looking like they've come back positive and healthy after the lockdown. It should be tight, possibly a draw, but if pushed I think Clare.

As regards semi-finals, if Mayo get to one I'd probably be more nervous of Clare than the other possibilities, but one game at a time and fingers crossed no injuries.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 20/05/2021 18:37:36    2343746

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "One thing the GAA seem to have forgotten about is what happens if a team involved in a relegation play-off is scheduled to play in the Championship the following weekend. It's unlikely to be an issue at the moment but theoretically it could still happen. "
Actually it wouldn't matter regarding the relegation play-offs as they are scheduled to take place on the same weekend as the League semi-finals.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 20/05/2021 20:20:04    2343763

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To royaldunne:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "I'd expect Mayo and Meath to stay in the top two places in Div 2 North. Kildare should have enough to hold on to top spot in Div 2 South but I believe Cork will wrestle Clare out of second spot. If that transpires then both Mayo and Meath could have tricky enough semi finals against Cork and Kildare respectively and if Mayo win then no League final will take place and both they and the winner of the second semi final will be promoted."
Why will no final take place. Just want ur opinion on that. I know they said unlikely, but why not ? Is it cause mayo will be out earlier than the other counties?"
Because looking at the fixtures I see Mayo v Sligo is scheduled to played on June 26th which is a week after the League final is scheduled to take place and my understanding is that if a team who reaches the final is scheduled to play the weekend after in the Championship, then no final will take place."]Thanks for that. I hadn't read into it too much tbh. I know they said the finals might not take place due to teams playing championship.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/05/2021 12:11:31    2343862

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "
Replying To royaldunne:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "I'd expect Mayo and Meath to stay in the top two places in Div 2 North. Kildare should have enough to hold on to top spot in Div 2 South but I believe Cork will wrestle Clare out of second spot. If that transpires then both Mayo and Meath could have tricky enough semi finals against Cork and Kildare respectively and if Mayo win then no League final will take place and both they and the winner of the second semi final will be promoted."
Why will no final take place. Just want ur opinion on that. I know they said unlikely, but why not ? Is it cause mayo will be out earlier than the other counties?"
Royaldunne, I heard this, not sure if it's true , that any divisional finals with teams out in championship the next week, won't go ahead. Seems ridiculous and surely they could push the championship games out a week in that case so teams can compete for silverware."]Cheers for that. Yep a chance of silverware that will be in short supply for majority of those hoping to reach final. Very disappointing

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/05/2021 12:12:56    2343863

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