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Dublin Getting 2 Home Games In The Super 8s. Fair Or Unfair?

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What's wrong with Clones, yesterday in Newbridge showed that the same excitement works with smaller venues the same as large, fans may not get tickets, well like yesterday tough, it's a GAA match not Mass with the Pope, games will go ahead even if only 1 person shows up

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 01/07/2018 11:50:18    2117136

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A lot of rumours in Donegal that the county board will look for the game to be played outside Croke Park. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next week or so.

Not sure that Dublin v Donegal would sell out Croke Park anyhow. It would bring incredible excitement to Clones or Castlebar if the game was there.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1951 - 01/07/2018 12:01:24    2117142

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Yes, it's clearly unfair.

Whoever draws Dublin in their neutral game should have the option of forgoing a Croke Park game to play it at a properly neutral venue.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4731 - 01/07/2018 12:08:43    2117145

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I love how everything about Dublin is not about Dublin! Jim Mc looking for some publicity. Donegal getting in early excuses.

Super 8s is one home, one away and one Croke Park so nothing in there about a neutral venue.

Now since you all say CP is our home ground then it is normal we play there twice. If you do not agree with this then stopping voting to keep Dublin in CP.

I go back to the 70s and 80s so remember the trips around Leinster, great great days out. '83 in Cork and '01 in Thurles (*2) are inconic days in GAA history.

By the way I keep asking and never get an answer. Can some tell me the net net money that Dublin get? In that how much money do Dublin generate versus how much we get?

This way we can see how much we are taking from the GAA.....................or how much we are putting in!

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 01/07/2018 12:12:46    2117147

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Replying To NaomhNaille:  "i don't exactly agree with that, the final in particular should be played in the national stadium regardless who's in it. bit like saying that russia shouldn't have their world cup games at home."
Ya but Russia won't have all their games at home in the next World Cup or the next 10 World Cups , Dublin will have home games for as long as they want them.

And for people who say that the Dublin fans will have no problem traveling up and down the country ye have to remember the Dublin fans won't be kicking the ball over or under the bar , it's the Dublin team that wants to stay in crokepark In their dressing room 1 and their warm up in front of the hill.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 01/07/2018 12:19:34    2117150

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"Now since you all say CP is our home ground then it is normal we play there twice."

So Witnof, going by your logic, Dublin have the right to 2 home games and every other team only deserve one. well this may seem like news to you but every other county deserve the same rights as Dublin do. you should get off your high horse and see that Dublin are majorly advantaged when it comes to the Super 8s.

NaomhNaille (Donegal) - Posts: 125 - 01/07/2018 12:32:35    2117153

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Replying To NaomhNaille:  "so say if it was on a Saturday night at 7 you wouldn't see Donegal fans home until 2/3 unless they stay down overnight, far from ideal either way. castlebar would make more sense to me"
Like i say, play it on Saturday, people have all weekend to travel. Thats just my personal preference. In fact i wouldn't be opposed to Semple stadium or the Gaelic grounds either to be honest. Everyone would be traveling really both Dubs and Donegal supporters, may as well have the juice worth the squeeze.

I dont mind Castlebar and it would be handy for you guys, dont think it would be a serious option though, i would think the crowd would be higher then 30k for a quaterfinal no?

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4541 - 01/07/2018 12:35:20    2117157

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Replying To witnof:  "I love how everything about Dublin is not about Dublin! Jim Mc looking for some publicity. Donegal getting in early excuses.

Super 8s is one home, one away and one Croke Park so nothing in there about a neutral venue.

Now since you all say CP is our home ground then it is normal we play there twice. If you do not agree with this then stopping voting to keep Dublin in CP.

I go back to the 70s and 80s so remember the trips around Leinster, great great days out. '83 in Cork and '01 in Thurles (*2) are inconic days in GAA history.

By the way I keep asking and never get an answer. Can some tell me the net net money that Dublin get? In that how much money do Dublin generate versus how much we get?

This way we can see how much we are taking from the GAA.....................or how much we are putting in!"
Surely you don't think it is fair that Dublin will get 2 Super 8 games at home wheras the other teams only get 1 home game. Does that not in any way seem unfair?

You mention money and I don't have any figues but I'd say you are right in saying Dublin generate more money than any of the other counties. However this particular issue is not about money, it's about each team getting the same number of home games. Or its not about the result either, Dublin would more than likely win in a neutral venue anyway.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1951 - 01/07/2018 13:10:40    2117172

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I think the Donegal Dublin game should be played in Croker but Dublin's home game should be in parnell park.
Look at the atmosphere in Newbridge yesterday instead of a half full Croker this is what championship is all about.
On a side note I think Dublin will win their matches no matter where they play

DL (Donegal) - Posts: 210 - 01/07/2018 13:17:23    2117174

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Like i say, play it on Saturday, people have all weekend to travel. Thats just my personal preference. In fact i wouldn't be opposed to Semple stadium or the Gaelic grounds either to be honest. Everyone would be traveling really both Dubs and Donegal supporters, may as well have the juice worth the squeeze.

I dont mind Castlebar and it would be handy for you guys, dont think it would be a serious option though, i would think the crowd would be higher then 30k for a quaterfinal no?"
You're off your rocker, if it isn't in Clones then Croke Park is the next best place. Sending Donegal to Thurles or Limerick is madness.

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 277 - 01/07/2018 13:42:03    2117178

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A neutral game in Ulster?

Hmm

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 01/07/2018 14:37:20    2117194

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Replying To jimbodub:  "A neutral game in Ulster?

Hmm"
well it's an improvement from a neutral game in a pitch where one of the teams have played 95% of their Championsip games in in the past 10 years don't ya think?

NaomhNaille (Donegal) - Posts: 125 - 01/07/2018 14:54:12    2117203

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Like i say, play it on Saturday, people have all weekend to travel. Thats just my personal preference. In fact i wouldn't be opposed to Semple stadium or the Gaelic grounds either to be honest. Everyone would be traveling really both Dubs and Donegal supporters, may as well have the juice worth the squeeze.

I dont mind Castlebar and it would be handy for you guys, dont think it would be a serious option though, i would think the crowd would be higher then 30k for a quaterfinal no?"
Castlebar capacity is only 2,000 more than Clones.

Either would be fine.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 01/07/2018 15:03:59    2117205

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Donegal fans calling for a neutral game in Ulster

Think it deserves to be somewhat questioned

Lesser of two evils I suppose but still a bit funny tbh

Either way let's see what happens

Don't think you'll have very many Dubs complaining wherever we're told to play although if we're told to play an Ulster team in Ulster... I'll laugh a wee bit

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 01/07/2018 15:12:00    2117209

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Donegal fans calling for a neutral game in Ulster

Think it deserves to be somewhat questioned

Lesser of two evils I suppose but still a bit funny tbh

Either way let's see what happens

Don't think you'll have very many Dubs complaining wherever we're told to play although if we're told to play an Ulster team in Ulster... I'll laugh a wee bit"
And to be told to play Dublin in Croke Park as a neutral venue..............everyone else will laugh!! Problem is the Croke Park game as a neutral venue for everyone should have been tackled earlier, when this format was finalised. A stipulation for moving Dublin's neutral game should have been put in. Forward planning isn't very strong at HQ it seems.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 01/07/2018 15:26:04    2117217

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Why should it be Clones?"
biggest stadium that is equidistant or thereabouts didnt think it had to be explained

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 277 - 01/07/2018 15:39:17    2117221

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Replying To kildare73:  "And to be told to play Dublin in Croke Park as a neutral venue..............everyone else will laugh!! Problem is the Croke Park game as a neutral venue for everyone should have been tackled earlier, when this format was finalised. A stipulation for moving Dublin's neutral game should have been put in. Forward planning isn't very strong at HQ it seems."
No needs to be in CP. How else can the GAA afford to keep bailing out Kildare

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 01/07/2018 15:46:20    2117225

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Replying To kildare73:  "And to be told to play Dublin in Croke Park as a neutral venue..............everyone else will laugh!! Problem is the Croke Park game as a neutral venue for everyone should have been tackled earlier, when this format was finalised. A stipulation for moving Dublin's neutral game should have been put in. Forward planning isn't very strong at HQ it seems."
No needs to be in CP. How else can the GAA afford to keep bailing out Kildare

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 01/07/2018 15:46:30    2117226

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Replying To kildare73:  "And to be told to play Dublin in Croke Park as a neutral venue..............everyone else will laugh!! Problem is the Croke Park game as a neutral venue for everyone should have been tackled earlier, when this format was finalised. A stipulation for moving Dublin's neutral game should have been put in. Forward planning isn't very strong at HQ it seems."
They are looking at getting 50-60 thousand into HQ during the championship. A big game featuring Dublin live on TV

It's a big money spinner for the association and let's be honest when it comes to Dublin it's not the first time the GAA have cashed in off Dublin.. I understand their motives but really I'm sort of sick of it tbh

You won't see me complaining if it's moved

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 01/07/2018 15:53:03    2117230

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Donegal fans calling for a neutral game in Ulster

Think it deserves to be somewhat questioned

Lesser of two evils I suppose but still a bit funny tbh

Either way let's see what happens

Don't think you'll have very many Dubs complaining wherever we're told to play although if we're told to play an Ulster team in Ulster... I'll laugh a wee bit"
If a neutral game staged half way between Donegal and Dublin makes you laugh a "wee bit", can you imagine how a neutral game between Donegal & Dublin in Croke Park has us?

There are fellas here who have been rolling around in the aisles for weeks now, I'm amazed you can't hear the hearty guffaws from Jones's Rd.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 01/07/2018 15:56:54    2117232

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