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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "While Israel actually practices genocide and is also a theocracy but no one is seems to talk about regime change there."
I'm not for any genocides. Iranian regime calls for genocide though. Look, there are too many radicals in the world for the GAA supporters to handle.
As far as I can tell we are the tolerant ones.
God bless Ireland

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1752 - 18/06/2025 14:26:00    2619014

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "If Israel is a theocracy do you regard the United Kingdom as one also? Charlie is after all head of the state church there"
He's a tyrant, Songs of Praise is blasted out of town halls at 6am every morning and anyone not attending the school play is waterboarded with weak tea and John Smith's.

dolfos (Longford) - Posts: 136 - 18/06/2025 15:14:20    2619027

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "While Israel actually practices genocide and is also a theocracy but no one is seems to talk about regime change there."
Israel have regular changes of rulers. They have elections.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16346 - 18/06/2025 15:19:53    2619030

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "It all depends on who is pushing the regime change. Netanyahu or the US don't mind dictators or terrible regimes as long as they are on their side. The fallout of Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Libya has been horrendous for innocent civilians. Trump seems to be going down the GW Bush route ignoring his own security advisor who says Iran do not have a nuclear weapon or are not close to building one. It's all very similar to weapons of mass destruction. We better get building more IPAS centres as brutal civil war seems to usually follow regime change."
Ah yes the terrible weapons Iraq never had......

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16346 - 18/06/2025 15:21:08    2619031

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Replying To Viking66:  "Israel have regular changes of rulers. They have elections."
Is this a joke ? I assume so.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8448 - 19/06/2025 08:54:52    2619140

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Is this a joke ? I assume so."
It isn't actually. They do have elections. Reasonable free and fair. One reason put forward for Netanyahu's actions is that he is trying to avoid elections. He apparently has criminal or corruption charges pending. Not everyone in Israel agrees with the present course of action. Israel always seem to end up with coalitions and the more radical end of the spectrum is currently calling the shots. They are the only ones to cozy up to Netanyahu so wield massive influence - way above their share of the vote.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1681 - 19/06/2025 10:42:11    2619164

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Replying To Freethinker:  "It isn't actually. They do have elections. Reasonable free and fair. One reason put forward for Netanyahu's actions is that he is trying to avoid elections. He apparently has criminal or corruption charges pending. Not everyone in Israel agrees with the present course of action. Israel always seem to end up with coalitions and the more radical end of the spectrum is currently calling the shots. They are the only ones to cozy up to Netanyahu so wield massive influence - way above their share of the vote."
The one thing apparently even liberal Israelis agree with the hardliners on is the existential threat...as they see it...from Iran

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 378 - 19/06/2025 11:42:17    2619180

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Israel/Palestine is the most gerrymandered place on the planet. The large extreme elements of the area
do not want coexistence or 2 state solutions. It's a zero sum game for them.
I remember 2001 when Irish people wore their Bin Ladin t-shirts openly. The same morons are all about
Hamas and Hezbollah now. They pretend not to be anti-semitic when asked about the troubles over there.
How about peaceful demonstrations to reunite Ireland? What ever happened to that debate?

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1235 - 19/06/2025 12:04:40    2619189

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Replying To maroondiesel:  "Israel/Palestine is the most gerrymandered place on the planet. The large extreme elements of the area
do not want coexistence or 2 state solutions. It's a zero sum game for them.
I remember 2001 when Irish people wore their Bin Ladin t-shirts openly. The same morons are all about
Hamas and Hezbollah now. They pretend not to be anti-semitic when asked about the troubles over there.
How about peaceful demonstrations to reunite Ireland? What ever happened to that debate?"
What most of the t-shirt wearing and flag waving and river to the sea gang here can't comprehend is that there are people who detest what hamas did on oct 7th and also are very unhappy at the scale of Israel's reaction to that.

Those of us who'd like a two state solution (as opposed to the complete annihilation of Israel which the river to the sea people chant about) can see that this is becoming increasingly impossible to realise as a goal.

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 378 - 19/06/2025 13:01:40    2619213

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "The one thing apparently even liberal Israelis agree with the hardliners on is the existential threat...as they see it...from Iran"
While US imperialism in the Middle East and using the Israelis as a foothold there is the actual biggest existential threat to the region and has been for about 80 years.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 205 - 19/06/2025 13:26:55    2619225

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "What most of the t-shirt wearing and flag waving and river to the sea gang here can't comprehend is that there are people who detest what hamas did on oct 7th and also are very unhappy at the scale of Israel's reaction to that.

Those of us who'd like a two state solution (as opposed to the complete annihilation of Israel which the river to the sea people chant about) can see that this is becoming increasingly impossible to realise as a goal."
Sure it was the excuse that shower wanted to go in and level Gaza

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2400 - 19/06/2025 13:34:22    2619228

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Replying To Freethinker:  "It isn't actually. They do have elections. Reasonable free and fair. One reason put forward for Netanyahu's actions is that he is trying to avoid elections. He apparently has criminal or corruption charges pending. Not everyone in Israel agrees with the present course of action. Israel always seem to end up with coalitions and the more radical end of the spectrum is currently calling the shots. They are the only ones to cozy up to Netanyahu so wield massive influence - way above their share of the vote."
There is nothing fair about the elections in Israel. It's a dictatorship run by a war monger who will do anything to stay in power. And that has been the case there for 20 years give or take. Reasonable free and fair is a laughable statement.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8448 - 19/06/2025 13:36:12    2619230

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