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Replying To royaldunne:  "Also from RUMOURS, the players had a meeting with management after league. Only 4 players spoke at the meeting, keoghan, O'Sullivan, mcentee and jones (current capt and previous 2, plus our best player in league) . They held their hands up and said they hadn't performed but that they felt the style of play that was been asked had left confusion and a inability to execute it as management would have liked, and it was decided that we would revert to a more defensive type of play, using the running game as the main game plan . Again this is what I was told over the weekend by a man from a club who has someone on team from his club. It was a very healthy meeting. I've been critical of Colm during league. But credit where credit is due, if he has listened to the players and taken them views on board then we have to give him and the other management team credit. I hope and pray we see a game plan that they can execute. As you said in newbridge the players looked awful and had 0 faith in the way they were playing. IF that has changed then we have to get behind management and players as they embark on a more familiar type of play."
All made up

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 938 - 17/04/2023 15:38:05    2471403

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All well and good reverting to a defensive style, but problems are up front as well - we can't score. We don't have a reliable scoring forward. Walsh could be the man but inconsistency and injuries still there.

Since Stephen Bray have we had a forward we can rely on? We just don't have natural footballers like we used to. And I'm not going back that far, we'd kill for a few forwards like a Brian Farrell, Joe Sheridan or Cian Ward right now.

NYRoyal (USA) - Posts: 31 - 17/04/2023 16:36:37    2471420

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Coffey, Rogers, Wyer and one more from deveopment squad added to panel and James Mac also returns. Anyone know for certain, is Jordan Morris part of panel?

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 17/04/2023 18:13:19    2471438

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Replying To NYRoyal:  "All well and good reverting to a defensive style, but problems are up front as well - we can't score. We don't have a reliable scoring forward. Walsh could be the man but inconsistency and injuries still there.

Since Stephen Bray have we had a forward we can rely on? We just don't have natural footballers like we used to. And I'm not going back that far, we'd kill for a few forwards like a Brian Farrell, Joe Sheridan or Cian Ward right now."
Micky Newman since then

royal11 (Meath) - Posts: 102 - 18/04/2023 08:21:15    2471481

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Replying To seadog54:  "Coffey, Rogers, Wyer and one more from deveopment squad added to panel and James Mac also returns. Anyone know for certain, is Jordan Morris part of panel?"
Yes he is, he never left it to many people on here with little to do than spread gossip.

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 540 - 18/04/2023 10:46:00    2471509

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Replying To latouche25:  "Yes he is, he never left it to many people on here with little to do than spread gossip."
I wrote that last night but never got printed. Jordan was injured prior to Kildare game. He is still on panel. And if fit will play on Sunday. Good to see James Mac back too.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/04/2023 12:58:56    2471561

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Possible starting team. I'd say we'll see the more experienced lads getting the start for the championship games and who know the defensive system better.

1. Harry Hogan

2. Adam O'Neill
3. Michael Flood
4. Cathal Hickey

5. Padraic Harnan
6. Donal Keogan
7. Shane McEntee

8. Jack Flynn
9. Ronan Jones

10. Cillian O'Sullivan
11. Matthew Costello
12. Jason Scully

13. Jordan Morris
14. Donal Lenihan
15. Diarmuid Moriarty

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 464 - 18/04/2023 13:51:38    2471573

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Replying To LoyalRoyal:  "Possible starting team. I'd say we'll see the more experienced lads getting the start for the championship games and who know the defensive system better.

1. Harry Hogan

2. Adam O'Neill
3. Michael Flood
4. Cathal Hickey

5. Padraic Harnan
6. Donal Keogan
7. Shane McEntee

8. Jack Flynn
9. Ronan Jones

10. Cillian O'Sullivan
11. Matthew Costello
12. Jason Scully

13. Jordan Morris
14. Donal Lenihan
15. Diarmuid Moriarty"
Padraic Harnan... Seriously?

Selwyn (Meath) - Posts: 387 - 18/04/2023 19:08:05    2471654

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Replying To LoyalRoyal:  "Possible starting team. I'd say we'll see the more experienced lads getting the start for the championship games and who know the defensive system better.

1. Harry Hogan

2. Adam O'Neill
3. Michael Flood
4. Cathal Hickey

5. Padraic Harnan
6. Donal Keogan
7. Shane McEntee

8. Jack Flynn
9. Ronan Jones

10. Cillian O'Sullivan
11. Matthew Costello
12. Jason Scully

13. Jordan Morris
14. Donal Lenihan
15. Diarmuid Moriarty"
That's a poor team, no punch up front at all

AthboyCelt (Meath) - Posts: 148 - 18/04/2023 21:43:12    2471690

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Replying To AthboyCelt:  "That's a poor team, no punch up front at all"
Who would you go with instead?

Scorers for Meath in League:

CORK: Shane Walsh 1-7 (0-2f, 0-2m); Jordan Morris 1-2; Cillian O'Sullivan 1-1; Mathew Costello 0-2 (1f); Cathal Hickey, Jack O'Connor 0-1 each
CLARE: Donal Lenihan 2-2 (0-2f), Jordan Morris 1-2 (0-1m, 0-1f), Jason Scully 1-1, Jack O'Connor 0-1, Daithi McGowan 0-1, Darragh Campion 0-1.
DERRY: T O'Reilly 1-1, D Lenihan 0-2, D Moriarty 0-1, R Jones 0-1, A Lennon 0-1 (1f), B Conlon 0-1
LIMERICK: Matthew Costello 1-3 (2fs), Donal Lenihan 1-0, Jordan Morris 0-3, Diarmuid Moriarty 0-2, Jack Flynn, Ronan Jones, and Jack O'Connor 0-1 each.
DUBLIN: Mathew Costello 1-2 (0-1f), Jack Flynn 0-3 (0-1 45), Diarmuid Moriarty 0-2 (0-1f), Aaron Lynch 0-2, Cathal Hickey 0-1, Donal Lenihan 0-1.
KILDARE: Ronan Jones 0-1, Jack Flynn 0-1f; Matthew Costello 0-1f, C O'Sullivan 0-1. Donal Lenihan 0-4(f)

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 464 - 19/04/2023 11:04:21    2471748

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What's the situation with Joey Wallace? We had him playing in Croke Park versus the Dubs when he was too young, too inexperienced and too light.

Now when he has good experience and is physically stronger he is nowhere to be seen.

stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 19/04/2023 14:50:40    2471793

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Replying To stillaroyal:  "What's the situation with Joey Wallace? We had him playing in Croke Park versus the Dubs when he was too young, too inexperienced and too light.

Now when he has good experience and is physically stronger he is nowhere to be seen."
Done his cruciate in the semi final of the championship. Probably nowhere near ready

Selwyn (Meath) - Posts: 387 - 19/04/2023 15:22:22    2471798

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Replying To stillaroyal:  "What's the situation with Joey Wallace? We had him playing in Croke Park versus the Dubs when he was too young, too inexperienced and too light.

Now when he has good experience and is physically stronger he is nowhere to be seen."
Is he still out injured?

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/04/2023 17:30:23    2471834

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Replying To LoyalRoyal:  "Possible starting team. I'd say we'll see the more experienced lads getting the start for the championship games and who know the defensive system better.

1. Harry Hogan

2. Adam O'Neill
3. Michael Flood
4. Cathal Hickey

5. Padraic Harnan
6. Donal Keogan
7. Shane McEntee

8. Jack Flynn
9. Ronan Jones

10. Cillian O'Sullivan
11. Matthew Costello
12. Jason Scully

13. Jordan Morris
14. Donal Lenihan
15. Diarmuid Moriarty"
Where's Eoghan Frayne and Conor Gray?

Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 184 - 19/04/2023 19:34:23    2471864

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Replying To Sheridan2010louth:  "Where's Eoghan Frayne and Conor Gray?"
What are you on about those two for nowhere near ready and massively overrated

Meathfor@life (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 19/04/2023 21:16:32    2471876

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Replying To Sheridan2010louth:  "Where's Eoghan Frayne and Conor Gray?"
Are they cleared to play with u20s knocked out?

NYRoyal (USA) - Posts: 31 - 19/04/2023 21:33:05    2471879

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Replying To Sheridan2010louth:  "Where's Eoghan Frayne and Conor Gray?"
The performance of all the u20s on Tuesday v what IMO are a middlein Dublin team would suggest to me that none of them are anywhere near ready to be starting senior inter county championship.

The 4 or 5 who have been brought in should be given time to get to train away and get to grips with senior inter county training and challenge games and not thrown in at the deep. I don't think it would do the young lads themselves or the team for that matter any good.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 20/04/2023 09:41:43    2471895

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Pointed out to me this morning. That by 6pm on Sunday all Meath footballers could be out of premier contests at all major grades (minor ,u20 senior) on 23rd of April.
It does send shivers down the spine. While I don't think we will be, it is still a possibility . I think many including myself pinned a lot of hope (perhaps too much) on u20s. I don't know if any of them will be drafted in to seniors but Sunday needs to see a drastic turn around from us to give the long suffering supporters hope of a bit longer of a year.
Hon the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/04/2023 10:52:16    2471912

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I wrote that last night but never got printed. Jordan was injured prior to Kildare game. He is still on panel. And if fit will play on Sunday. Good to see James Mac back too."
Why did he play 2 club league games with Kingscourt then in recent weeks?

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 584 - 20/04/2023 11:14:57    2471922

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Replying To LoyalRoyal:  "Who would you go with instead?

Scorers for Meath in League:

CORK: Shane Walsh 1-7 (0-2f, 0-2m); Jordan Morris 1-2; Cillian O'Sullivan 1-1; Mathew Costello 0-2 (1f); Cathal Hickey, Jack O'Connor 0-1 each
CLARE: Donal Lenihan 2-2 (0-2f), Jordan Morris 1-2 (0-1m, 0-1f), Jason Scully 1-1, Jack O'Connor 0-1, Daithi McGowan 0-1, Darragh Campion 0-1.
DERRY: T O'Reilly 1-1, D Lenihan 0-2, D Moriarty 0-1, R Jones 0-1, A Lennon 0-1 (1f), B Conlon 0-1
LIMERICK: Matthew Costello 1-3 (2fs), Donal Lenihan 1-0, Jordan Morris 0-3, Diarmuid Moriarty 0-2, Jack Flynn, Ronan Jones, and Jack O'Connor 0-1 each.
DUBLIN: Mathew Costello 1-2 (0-1f), Jack Flynn 0-3 (0-1 45), Diarmuid Moriarty 0-2 (0-1f), Aaron Lynch 0-2, Cathal Hickey 0-1, Donal Lenihan 0-1.
KILDARE: Ronan Jones 0-1, Jack Flynn 0-1f; Matthew Costello 0-1f, C O'Sullivan 0-1. Donal Lenihan 0-4(f)"
Had a look yesterday and our average scoring across all three grades this year is about 12 scores a game. That's just not enough to win any match at any level.

Meath are lacking players with composure and who are able to take a score. Donal lenihan top scored in the league with 3-9, Jordan Morris had 2-10 and Shane Walsh 1-10. In Seven league games our top scorers didn't even breach 20 points. We're also very poor when it comes to the advanced mark. 0-3 across the seven games, some teams are getting 3-4 Points a game off it. We also had 7 different free takers across the league,think there was 19-20 points from that. You're free taker over 7 games should be chipping in 4-6 points a game at least. That's a Colm O'Rourke problem and needs to be resolved, no county in the country is playing without a designated free taker even if there's one from the left a one from the right, it needs to be sorted out. And one final one in all our seven games this year only once v Carlow have we out scored our opponents.

This is the key issue and needs resolution.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 20/04/2023 12:30:17    2471945

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