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Meath Vs Clare NFL Round 2

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Replying To Sheridan2010louth:  "Consistency has been Jones' problem, he was poor against Cork and very good today, the challenge for him is to back up a good performance now."
Yes I agree with you 100% . Beggars belief that some people thought he was really poor today. Was 1 of his better performances I thought but as you rightly said he needs to back it up now with consistently good performances.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 05/02/2023 18:57:28    2456698

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Replying To Sheridan2010louth:  "Keeo begging Bryan menton to come back and when Jack flynn is back fully fit start him too."
Begging a veteran who has opted out to come back is hardly moving on though like what was suggested.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 05/02/2023 18:58:25    2456701

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Scully was fantastic today, ran at the defence made and finished a great goal. Once again midfield destroyed Jones the pick of them but neither won a single kick out. Jones can't catch a ball in contest and goes up with one hand a lot. People complaining about the kickouts but there was no movement or options presented to him.

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 540 - 05/02/2023 19:07:53    2456709

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super crowd and 2 points are 2 points. Keep it going

seasiderblues (Meath) - Posts: 353 - 05/02/2023 19:21:45    2456717

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Replying To latouche25:  "Scully was fantastic today, ran at the defence made and finished a great goal. Once again midfield destroyed Jones the pick of them but neither won a single kick out. Jones can't catch a ball in contest and goes up with one hand a lot. People complaining about the kickouts but there was no movement or options presented to him."
I don't blame Harry one bit. No one showing , he's not to blame. Has to be Colm's number 1 priority

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/02/2023 19:46:58    2456745

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It's a bit unfair the likes of Walsh having to play 3 competitive games in a week. Gaa need to look at that seriously.

atta (Meath) - Posts: 704 - 05/02/2023 20:07:55    2456753

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Replying To atta:  "It's a bit unfair the likes of Walsh having to play 3 competitive games in a week. Gaa need to look at that seriously."
Totally. It's disgraceful

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/02/2023 20:18:18    2456758

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O Rourke has a point but he didn't have to start Walsh today and then bemoan Sigerson.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2837 - 05/02/2023 20:22:15    2456760

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Happy with the win , two wins out of two not a bad return for the new management set up and the players involved , lots to improve on which is good after a win also.

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 934 - 05/02/2023 20:35:19    2456764

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I don't blame Harry one bit. No one showing , he's not to blame. Has to be Colm's number 1 priority"
Agreed.

Was looking at the set up at every kickout and very often there was little or no movement outfield for hi. To hit.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 05/02/2023 20:47:05    2456775

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "O Rourke has a point but he didn't have to start Walsh today and then bemoan Sigerson."
What do you mean didn't have to start him. He contributed 10 pts last week. We were lucky to get through without him. So we were to risk losing a game without starting him for the sake of a college winter tournament? The point is that these players are being put under tremendous stress physically running these competitions in parallel but neither team management has any concern how the other team are doing. Its all on the player who doesn't want to let either team down. This is wrong but O'Rourke is hardly going to back down for his own agenda.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 594 - 05/02/2023 20:56:32    2456779

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Replying To Jinxie:  "Agreed.

Was looking at the set up at every kickout and very often there was little or no movement outfield for hi. To hit."
Yeah zero movement.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/02/2023 21:08:27    2456786

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Replying To Jinxie:  "Agreed.

Was looking at the set up at every kickout and very often there was little or no movement outfield for hi. To hit."
Exactly.........Begs the question How can management continue to look at that.? Its not like it was a new problem that is only seen recently. Something that one good focussed training session could improve. I believe that area has to show big improvement against Derry.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 05/02/2023 21:17:23    2456793

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A lot of poor stuff yesterday.
Can't understand why we can't get the kickouts sorted we had platers free at times and Hogan seem not to see them so it's not something they are working on .
We over played the ball a lot it seem very disjointed and unsure a lot of the time .
We still got a win playing poorly a young team that's going to take time to get used to playing together the bug test will come the next day hopefully we'll have Walsh and Costello back .
After going to both games it's worrying the soft frees that both refs blew for the second a hand is put in the whistle is blown its very hard watch the game they seem to want to take all contact out of it altogether .

mmc (Meath) - Posts: 281 - 06/02/2023 09:31:57    2456828

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On the kickouts I think we had a few issues.
1. The tactical setup looked odd to me, players were taking up static positions not moving and not creating space.
2. Some of the execution and decision making was poor from Harry. Trying difficult kicks to the centre back position where there were loads of bodies, kicking long to Cillian O'Sullivan at one stage. When Conlon came on he made a few good runs to the wing on Harry's left. Either he didn't see him or he didn't trust him with the ball, either way worrying.
3. We lost the aerial battle in the midfield and we lost a lot of breaks.

Disappointing to see since we've had no kickout strategy, it would have been an easy win for new management.

On the overall performance thought the full back line was good again even though Clare scored a lot. Lots of scorable frees conceded like in the Cork game. Few of them were very soft but have to adapt when the referee is like that. Scully is turning into a leader on the pitch you can see him orgaising the forwards the whole time. Leno did well, showed for ball well and big contribution on the scoreboard. Good idea from Management to have Jack O'Connor wing back against a team like Clare, he was out best player in 1st half carrying the ball forward.

royal11 (Meath) - Posts: 102 - 06/02/2023 10:17:31    2456833

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Replying To winatallcost:  "What do you mean didn't have to start him. He contributed 10 pts last week. We were lucky to get through without him. So we were to risk losing a game without starting him for the sake of a college winter tournament? The point is that these players are being put under tremendous stress physically running these competitions in parallel but neither team management has any concern how the other team are doing. Its all on the player who doesn't want to let either team down. This is wrong but O'Rourke is hardly going to back down for his own agenda."
The Sigerson is played at the wrong time but a lot of those players are on scholarships so they have to play College.

Walsh obviously an important player but there is a panel for a reason

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2837 - 06/02/2023 15:13:48    2456871

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Mixed bag. Good start with the goals but then didn't push on at all. In the second half I felt we didn't push on and when the bench was sprung it felt like the team got worse not better. At the same time it is another win and leaves us right in the mix for promotion if we can beat Derry. For the talk of a kicking game bar the first 15 minutes we didn't do much of it. We lost the shape and couldn't kick into the full forward line. Shane W and Matt C were definitely losses in terms of being outlets and linking the play. On the positives Adam O'Neill very good man to win contest and a seems comfortable at this level. Jones was much better this year and set up 2 of the goals Scully seems to have improved a good bit and good to see Lenihan back with Meath he is a sharp finisher.

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1527 - 06/02/2023 16:51:07    2456879

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A lot of talk on here about the kick out strategy or lack of one and a lot of people suprised the new management haven't implemented a kick out strategy.

Is it possible that they have tried to implement a kick out strategy and simply haven't been able to because the players just aren't capable of executing it?

And all the talk of no kick out strategy from previous management was just that the players couldn't get it done??

I doubt any management at Division 2 inter county level have not tried to implement a kick out strategy.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 06/02/2023 19:11:22    2456905

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Two very different opinions on kickouts, some laying blame on keeper and others saying no movement to give him options. In truth a bit of both, however, Hogan had options on several occassions and just like last week he either did not spot the free man or did not thrust in his own ability to go quickly. All concerned need to get on same wavelength quickly,its an ongoing issue that has to be sorted, priority one if we hope to improve. Overall a positive start to what is shaping up to be a very competitive division.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 06/02/2023 20:24:50    2456917

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Good result at the weekend and great to see big crowd out. Performance wasnt great all the same i feel. The number 6, lilis was causing all sorts of problems and we didn't seem to work out that the clare keeper was waiting for everyone to hit the wings on his kickouts and he just waited for the last man to run to the top of the D for nice easy 10 yard pass..

Walsh was a big loss as we lost that long target man, and when clare sat in, we really struggled to break them down. Felt a few times we should have had a long pop from 40+yards as that would mean they would have to start coming out and defend further out.

Kickouts in 2 quarter up to half time nearly cost us the match as were so poor. Rarely kicks at a target but floats it up nearly 20meters into the air so it hangs in the air allowing allcomers to attack so giving our men no advantage at all and forcing them to defend on the turn which killed us. Would have been better pumping it over the line and giving us a chance to face up to clare.

I was disappointed to see O'sullivan and the other man he clashed heads with come back onto the field as both had to have been concussed after a serious collision, and sully was hardly in it after that as he was clearly fazed by it. Head to head collisions should be automatic gone for the game if physio's have to come on to treat you i think.

Conceded far to many frees in scorable range which kept clare ticking over, albeit some of the frees the ref was calling on both teams were poor and didn't let the game develop any sort of flow.

Main thing is we won dirty and got the 2 points needed, but a lot of work to do.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 642 - 07/02/2023 08:54:09    2456935

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