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Replying To stillaroyal:  "Not sure if there is a bit of tongue in cheek here. Ratoath could easily be current SHC champions had the original final fixture against Trim last year taken place. It didn't and recent weeks have been difficult for them but they have good minors coming through and haven't gone away.

Trim are better than they displayed yesterday and will be there or thereabouts for the next number of years but the best two teams this year are in the final.

Hard call, I can see Kiltale being favorites but that will suit Kildalkey."
How would Ratoath have easily won the SHC last October but not this August? Same players?

Kilyon had kiltale rattled 2 weeks ago only for a silly red card. Ran them to 1pt a few years ago in a final. There's people on here saying they're not fit to be in the SHC, yet Ratoath can lose by 15 points and no one calls for restructure? Ratoath have been senior for 5 years and have won 1 semi final v a recently promoted na fianna.

People need to stop driving their own clubs agendas and get down to the pitch and start coaching. No restructure is going to improve the standard of hurling in Meath. If you look at the underage hurling in Meath there's very few clubs that can field without amalgamation when it comes to u15 onwards. You can see the clubs that are putting in the effort, same clubs are at the top of the SHC, there's no shortcuts.

begining (UK) - Posts: 313 - 16/11/2021 11:43:48    2389622

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kiltale slight favs Kiltale 4/5 Kildalkey 6/5 Draw 8/1

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dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 790 - 17/11/2021 13:57:05    2389761

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Replying To begining:  "How would Ratoath have easily won the SHC last October but not this August? Same players?

Kilyon had kiltale rattled 2 weeks ago only for a silly red card. Ran them to 1pt a few years ago in a final. There's people on here saying they're not fit to be in the SHC, yet Ratoath can lose by 15 points and no one calls for restructure? Ratoath have been senior for 5 years and have won 1 semi final v a recently promoted na fianna.

People need to stop driving their own clubs agendas and get down to the pitch and start coaching. No restructure is going to improve the standard of hurling in Meath. If you look at the underage hurling in Meath there's very few clubs that can field without amalgamation when it comes to u15 onwards. You can see the clubs that are putting in the effort, same clubs are at the top of the SHC, there's no shortcuts."
Hi beginning, you picked my post up wrong. I said Ratoath could have easily won - i.e. they were favorites and there was a decent chance that they would have won but I was not saying that I thought that they would have won easily.

The reason I am saying that is that Trim had just lost the county intermediate final the previous week and were missing James Toher. Ratoath were on a high after winning their second county football and had no injuries afaik.

Of course we will never know. My basic point is that Ratoath should be quite competitive going forward and hopefully the championship will be as close next year.

stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 18/11/2021 10:32:39    2389824

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Replying To dickie10:  "kiltale slight favs Kiltale 4/5 Kildalkey 6/5 Draw 8/1

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Paddy Power badly wrong on this one. Kiltale not really at the races today. Martian Doran is some warrior, absolute made of steel

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 21/11/2021 17:04:28    2390183

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Kildalkey worthy winners, Kiltale never at races was closer and scoreboard than how game was!
I'd imagine trim are kicking themselves that they couldn't get there house in order.

Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 171 - 21/11/2021 18:05:24    2390189

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Congrats to near neighbours Boardsmill and Kidalkey on their respective Intermediate and Senior Hurling Title wins.
Well done.
After both had painful losses in last years Championship - good to see both get their hands on the trophies this time around.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4051 - 21/11/2021 19:12:26    2390208

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Well done to Kildalkey. Indisputably the best team in the championship this season. Were it not for a nightmare injury time in last season's semi final, they could have done the three in a row.
Commiserations to neighbours Drumree and congrats to Boardsmill. Thought Drumree had a shock championship in the bag when they were 7 up with just over 10 to go but fair play to Boardsmill for not giving up. There was only going to be one winner in extra time.

Well done to our lads for our first minor hurling title since 1970. Excellent achievement!

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 21/11/2021 20:52:57    2390236

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Replying To Meathgaalad:  "Kildalkey worthy winners, Kiltale never at races was closer and scoreboard than how game was!
I'd imagine trim are kicking themselves that they couldn't get there house in order."
Have to agree, fair play to kildalkey but in house rowing in Trim has potentially cost them a back to back but on form no1 can argue kildalkey best form this year.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 642 - 22/11/2021 12:55:45    2390309

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Kildalkey deserving champions. Wouldn't take away from it with internal politics in other clubs, that goes on everywhere.
Quality of match yesterday was well below the 2020 final played in August. I would put that down to the conditions. Maybe a different thread but if we are going for a split season, then I would prefer the inter county later in year and clubs earlier.

showforit (Meath) - Posts: 156 - 22/11/2021 13:57:13    2390322

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "Have to agree, fair play to kildalkey but in house rowing in Trim has potentially cost them a back to back but on form no1 can argue kildalkey best form this year."
I think it must be taken into consideration how difficult it is for dual clubs to win both championships. Trim have won both senior hurling and intermediate football in recent months. Very difficult for a club to sustain that with a fair number of dual players - injuries, tiredness and, of course, celebrations when you win something.

Same can be said for Ratoath who have a number of players who had 2 long seasons with the football and had to prepare for and play the county hurling final in August.

Kiltale also have a fair few dual players who have been training and playing football at senior level.

Of the big four hurling clubs I would reckon that Kildalkey have the least number of dual players though I stand to be corrected on that. Not to take away from the victory and they showed the mettle of true champions to come back from the smash and grab raid by Trim at the end of the semi last year.

stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 22/11/2021 21:52:21    2390389

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Fair play to kildalkey , won easier than scoreline shows in reality.
kiltale never got going , kildalkey played as good as i have seen them in a long time.

Very poor match to watch , not sure how much you can blame conditions

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 425 - 23/11/2021 09:11:33    2390399

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Replying To stillaroyal:  "I think it must be taken into consideration how difficult it is for dual clubs to win both championships. Trim have won both senior hurling and intermediate football in recent months. Very difficult for a club to sustain that with a fair number of dual players - injuries, tiredness and, of course, celebrations when you win something.

Same can be said for Ratoath who have a number of players who had 2 long seasons with the football and had to prepare for and play the county hurling final in August.

Kiltale also have a fair few dual players who have been training and playing football at senior level.

Of the big four hurling clubs I would reckon that Kildalkey have the least number of dual players though I stand to be corrected on that. Not to take away from the victory and they showed the mettle of true champions to come back from the smash and grab raid by Trim at the end of the semi last year."
Of course Kiltale have a fair few dual players. They draw from 2 parishes.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 23/11/2021 12:40:56    2390438

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Replying To MillerX:  "Of course Kiltale have a fair few dual players. They draw from 2 parishes."
think every club has dual players these days and I'm sure none would agree that they train any less than others, Kildalkey were easy winners last Sunday, Kiltale never looked like winning the game even when they got goals, i was very surprised how easy Kiltale rolled over. thought the referee was excellent, no bull**** frees like we are used to seeing, give a hit take a hit get on with it. The old brigade of Kildalkey have stood the test of time, could have been 3 in a row again and I don't think they are gone away now either. Kiltale when they went to the bench it was the old brigade that came in, not sure what else they had to offer on the day but where was murphy, eamon ryan and shirren and I am sure there a couple of more younger lads there, will be interesting to see how Kiltale recover and respond.

pixey (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 25/11/2021 09:29:01    2390715

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I'd say, looking back, some of the posters on this thread are embarrassed their predictions. With the exception of the game versus Longwood 50% of posters reckoned that Kildalkey would loose in each qualifying round!!!

An outsider looking in would think that Kiltale and Trim were super teams but the championship is played on the pitch, not on the web.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 25/11/2021 16:55:56    2390823

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Replying To pixey:  "think every club has dual players these days and I'm sure none would agree that they train any less than others, Kildalkey were easy winners last Sunday, Kiltale never looked like winning the game even when they got goals, i was very surprised how easy Kiltale rolled over. thought the referee was excellent, no bull**** frees like we are used to seeing, give a hit take a hit get on with it. The old brigade of Kildalkey have stood the test of time, could have been 3 in a row again and I don't think they are gone away now either. Kiltale when they went to the bench it was the old brigade that came in, not sure what else they had to offer on the day but where was murphy, eamon ryan and shirren and I am sure there a couple of more younger lads there, will be interesting to see how Kiltale recover and respond."
that surprised me too. nothing against old guard , great guys, great names there came on.
wonder generally is there also a level of apathy creeping in with younger players in clubs ...cant say i blame them....covid and all

Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 25/11/2021 17:28:44    2390829

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If people think back to last year everybody in hurling circles were saying this kiltale team are finished.
A year on they made a final , looked the best team going into it but didnt perform at all and kildalkey played the game of their lives , and fair play to them.

So things are not always as good or bad as it looks.
Kiltale are without two of their best players the past two years but yet came close to winning a championship this year without them. It remains to be seen if or when they will return.
Kildalkey had everybody to pick from and got everything right on the big day , i would think the pain of last years semi lit a huge fire under them for this year , but its clear they put the work in on kiltale.

Next years championship looks to be just as close , none of the big 4 teams are going anywhere for a while yet.

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 425 - 25/11/2021 17:48:39    2390833

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Replying To MillerX:  "I'd say, looking back, some of the posters on this thread are embarrassed their predictions. With the exception of the game versus Longwood 50% of posters reckoned that Kildalkey would loose in each qualifying round!!!

An outsider looking in would think that Kiltale and Trim were super teams but the championship is played on the pitch, not on the web."
Kildalkey do not have the number of county players that the other 3 semi final teams would have on paper they are 4th strongest and that explains the predictions

2020Vision (Meath) - Posts: 29 - 26/11/2021 10:02:07    2390868

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Replying To 2020Vision:  "Kildalkey do not have the number of county players that the other 3 semi final teams would have on paper they are 4th strongest and that explains the predictions"
I will probably get shot for saying this but Kildalkey hurlers playing football is very much a 2nd priority from what I have seen.

Kiltale, Trim and Ratoath - their dual players are playing with teams that have been in latter stages of SFC and IFC and have even been playing or training with county teams.

But, not an excuse - its up to those clubs to get things right and keep their players fresh etc and fair play Kildalkey -0 deserving SHC champions definitely.

stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 26/11/2021 10:26:58    2390869

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Replying To 2020Vision:  "Kildalkey do not have the number of county players that the other 3 semi final teams would have on paper they are 4th strongest and that explains the predictions"
There we go again…the game is not played on paper….

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 26/11/2021 11:25:55    2390878

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Replying To stillaroyal:  "I will probably get shot for saying this but Kildalkey hurlers playing football is very much a 2nd priority from what I have seen.

Kiltale, Trim and Ratoath - their dual players are playing with teams that have been in latter stages of SFC and IFC and have even been playing or training with county teams.

But, not an excuse - its up to those clubs to get things right and keep their players fresh etc and fair play Kildalkey -0 deserving SHC champions definitely."
Eight (8) of the Kildalkey team on Sunday played in the IFC for Ballivor this year and they too were involved in the knockout stages of the championship. If that number of players were only slightly interested in football do you honestly think they would have qualified from the group? As regards inter county teams, maybe that question should be directed at the various inter county managements.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 26/11/2021 11:36:53    2390880

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