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2021 championship starting this weekend, who are lada tipping for the win ?
I'm not up to date as i used to be but going on recent results and league games ill give it a go.
Longwood V Kildalkey
Do Longwood have a team ? Didn't feild in league and Damien Healy missed Meaths Joe Mcdonagh i can't understand how they compete in senior A there consistently in QF SF and one final in last decade.
Kildalkey by 10+
Kiltale V Na Fianna
Na Fianna are ever proving team with a host of young players think they got to the semi last year and got close to Trim recently in league game, but kiltale will have to much in there locker.
Kiltlae by 5
Trim V Ratoath
No love lost here i would think, knowing trim they will be all still up in the clouds and Ratoath will surely be out to prove a point.
Ratoath by 5
Senior B
Kilmessan V killyon
Both teams that have gone back alot in the last few years, Killyon have had plenty young hurlers come threw but seem to of failed to progress and Ballivor recent good run in football may be taken from the hurling, Amazing how far Kilmessan have fallen but everything comes in cycles im sure they will be back but they are still dependent on lada in there mid 30s Clynch,Brennan, keenas, Reilly but i think they will have enough.
Kilmessan by 2
Blackhall Gaels V Wolfe Tones
Great to see Wolfe Tones back in senior grade, be interesting to see if there footballers play if they do they have a chance, but blackhall have some quality that Tones don't with Whitty,Moro,Myler be enough see them threw.
Blackhall by 6
Athboy V Dunboyne
This will be keenly contested game will both teams having good scoring forwards , Sean Quigley showed form end of Meaths campaign and he could be the difference.
Dunboyne by 2
Slimbob (Meath) - Posts: 26 - 19/08/2021 11:17:43
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Senior A
Longwood v Kildalkey
Expect Longwood will field a team, might not be blessed with talent but will not give up, Kildalkey in a bit of transition but should be winning by 10+ if they want to be considered contenders.
Longwood to be relegated from this group, Kildalkey be hoping for QTR Final spot.
Kiltale v Na Fianna
Kiltale are a team that i think will have a massive say this year, don't be surprised if they top the group beating everyone, Na Fianna have a good group of players which could be stronger if a few more players were dual players as opposed to just football. Kiltale by 6
Kiltale to top this group, Na Fianna hoping for QTR place.
Trim v Ratoath
Understand Trim might be down a few this weekend, 2 teams will be there or thereabouts again this year, can Trim kick on ? definitely have the talent but have the group the want ? Ratoath will want to get that senior hurling championship so they need to reverse the final result to get their campaign off to a good start. Ratoath by 4
Ratoath for semi final spot, Trim QTR final spot
Senior B
Kilmessan v Killyon
Both teams rely heavily on the old guard, don't see either having any major say in the knockout stages, Killyon have some new blood coming through but just not enough, will fancy a winning start here, Kilmessan also have new blood but again just not enough and will also fancy a wining start.
Killyon by 2
The loser of this could be in a dogfight come the latter stages.
BGH v Wolfe Tones
This division suits BHG, they will be hoping to get into a QTR final, like other teams in this group they have some very good players but just lack the quality in numbers, Wolfe Tones back in the top flight for first time in many years will be hoping for a winning start but i don't see it coming.
BHG by 6
BHG possible QTR final place, Wolfe Tones will be the target for all teams in this group to avoid relegation.
CNG v Dunboyne
Both teams will be looking at a QTR final spot as a target, the winners of this game will set them up nicely for that. Dunboyne will be happy with most of their performance's to date and will fancy a clean sweep in this group which i think is possible, Quigley if match fit will have a big say in this game, CNG have some very nice young hurlers mixed with a bit of the old guard, not sure they have enough for Dunboyne this weekend but will trouble most other teams in the group.
Dunboyne by 5
Dunboyne to top the group, CNG will need to beat remaining teams to make QTR final.
StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 19/08/2021 12:32:10
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Replying To StickFan: "Senior A
Longwood v Kildalkey
Expect Longwood will field a team, might not be blessed with talent but will not give up, Kildalkey in a bit of transition but should be winning by 10+ if they want to be considered contenders.
Longwood to be relegated from this group, Kildalkey be hoping for QTR Final spot.
Kiltale v Na Fianna
Kiltale are a team that i think will have a massive say this year, don't be surprised if they top the group beating everyone, Na Fianna have a good group of players which could be stronger if a few more players were dual players as opposed to just football. Kiltale by 6
Kiltale to top this group, Na Fianna hoping for QTR place.
Trim v Ratoath
Understand Trim might be down a few this weekend, 2 teams will be there or thereabouts again this year, can Trim kick on ? definitely have the talent but have the group the want ? Ratoath will want to get that senior hurling championship so they need to reverse the final result to get their campaign off to a good start. Ratoath by 4
Ratoath for semi final spot, Trim QTR final spot
Senior B
Kilmessan v Killyon
Both teams rely heavily on the old guard, don't see either having any major say in the knockout stages, Killyon have some new blood coming through but just not enough, will fancy a winning start here, Kilmessan also have new blood but again just not enough and will also fancy a wining start.
Killyon by 2
The loser of this could be in a dogfight come the latter stages.
BGH v Wolfe Tones
This division suits BHG, they will be hoping to get into a QTR final, like other teams in this group they have some very good players but just lack the quality in numbers, Wolfe Tones back in the top flight for first time in many years will be hoping for a winning start but i don't see it coming.
BHG by 6
BHG possible QTR final place, Wolfe Tones will be the target for all teams in this group to avoid relegation.
CNG v Dunboyne
Both teams will be looking at a QTR final spot as a target, the winners of this game will set them up nicely for that. Dunboyne will be happy with most of their performance's to date and will fancy a clean sweep in this group which i think is possible, Quigley if match fit will have a big say in this game, CNG have some very nice young hurlers mixed with a bit of the old guard, not sure they have enough for Dunboyne this weekend but will trouble most other teams in the group.
Dunboyne by 5
Dunboyne to top the group, CNG will need to beat remaining teams to make QTR final." Senior A
Longwood v Kildalkey
Kildalkey for the win but longwood will make them work for it but should be a double scores win for the men in blue
Kiltale v Na Fianna
Dont think Na Fianna will keep it out to Kiltale. Struggled against trims intermediate team in the league so with kiltale with a point to prove i cant see this being anything other than a demolition.
Trim v Ratoath
Think this will be close to call. Both teams are missing a few from the final but expect it to be a puck of a ball again. Going to give it to the champions as they will want to prove it was no fluck.
Senior B
Kilmessan v Killyon
Killyon get the pick for me over Kilmessan. Question for both teams will be how much to the old legs have left in the tanks.
BGH v Wolfe Tones
Blackhall again should have too much but if tones can limit the frees, they could keep it close.
CNG v Dunboyne
Dunboyne to set down a marker as the team to beat but they have to be mindful of athboy forwards.
Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 642 - 20/08/2021 10:03:19
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Replying To Irish_downunder: "Senior A
Longwood v Kildalkey
Kildalkey for the win but longwood will make them work for it but should be a double scores win for the men in blue
Kiltale v Na Fianna
Dont think Na Fianna will keep it out to Kiltale. Struggled against trims intermediate team in the league so with kiltale with a point to prove i cant see this being anything other than a demolition.
Trim v Ratoath
Think this will be close to call. Both teams are missing a few from the final but expect it to be a puck of a ball again. Going to give it to the champions as they will want to prove it was no fluck.
Senior B
Kilmessan v Killyon
Killyon get the pick for me over Kilmessan. Question for both teams will be how much to the old legs have left in the tanks.
BGH v Wolfe Tones
Blackhall again should have too much but if tones can limit the frees, they could keep it close.
CNG v Dunboyne
Dunboyne to set down a marker as the team to beat but they have to be mindful of athboy forwards." Kildalkey v Longwood , Kildalkey - Longwood a bit in disarray this season looks like
Kiltale V Na Fianna - Kiltale , Na Fianna could be hammered but you never know with them
Trim v Ratoath - Draw - very well matched
Kilmessan v Killyon - Kilmessan - could go either way
BGH v Tones - BHG - depends on footballers for wolfe tones but BHG a little more hurling in them
CNG v Dunboyne - dunboyne are playing well enough
Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 20/08/2021 11:14:47
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Anyone at trim Ratoath game for report?
Was not expecting that score
Most likely trim still celebrating ?
Only news I'm getting is about officiating
head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 21/08/2021 19:04:35
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Replying To head4dblackspot: "Anyone at trim Ratoath game for report?
Was not expecting that score
Most likely trim still celebrating ?
Only news I'm getting is about officiating" Match is on the Meath GAA TV Youtube channel.
Combination of Ratoath being at the races more than 2 weeks ago, Trim having a hangover and also missing a number of players.
Won't say much about the refereeing display but it left a lot to be desired.
Massive win for Na Fianna over Kiltale.
Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 21/08/2021 20:27:03
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I was at it, great game for 20 mins, Trim missed a sitter of a goal to go 5 up and never recovered. In fairness to trim, they buried a team mate friday after a week of celebrations, how they bounce back will tell a lot!
Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 171 - 22/08/2021 08:21:13
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Watched on youtube, and I wouldn't say Trim weren't trying, just that the focus and sharpness weren't there compared to the final, or even their Davis Cup Semi Final. Then as others have said you have a few circumstances; Ratoath having far more motivation, Trim's celebrations taking their toll, plus some injuries and also the tragic loss of their clubmate only days before.
Hard to read much into the game, but still a good start for Ratoath.
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1668 - 22/08/2021 16:02:33
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Some result for Na Fianna. Really didnt see that on the cards at all. Group A now wide open after ratoath beat a gassed trim.
Next few rounds should be cracking with Trim v Kiltale having massive importance now.
Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 642 - 24/08/2021 08:14:39
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Kildalkey looking good again and with 3 teams winning over the weekend, that can only feed confidence in the club. Longwood not at the races and evident that no hurling done given they skipped the league. They will be back in Group B where they can build again next year.
Ratoath beat a lacklustre Trim team but very unfair on both having to play a county final and then turnaround 2 weeks later and start into a new championship. Really takes away from enjoying a brilliant win for Trim. They also had to deal with some tragic news so I think any team would have struggled to get up to the pitch of things at the weekend.
Na Fianna had a good win over Kiltale but not that surprising given Na Fianna ran Trim to a couple of points a week out from the county final and are starting to bare the fruits of their underage successes. Kiltale look like a team that are finished with no new talent coming through after a very successful spell and will be looking for a win over Longwood to retain a place in the A group. Not sure how long they will remain in Group A and will probably follow the same trajectory as Kilmessan.
Kilmessan probably should have held on over Killyon but both teams are in a similar space with plenty of youth but still relying on the older players.
No real surprise with Blackhall beating Tones. Expect a short stay in Senior for them as football becomes the priority for a lot of their players.
Dunboyne and Clann na Gael was closer than the scoreline suggests. I think Dunboyne are the pick of this group and will trouble the A group teams in the quarter final. I wouldn't write off Clann na Gael coming through this group. They do have to contend with being a dual club which may scupper them in the later rounds as bodies get tired.
Ratoath, Kildalkey, Trim and Na Fianna to go through from A and Dunboyne and Killyon to make it through in B (but I do think that second spot could go to any one of 4 left in that group).
Kildalkey to take Ratoath in the final with Ratoath eyeing a 3 in a row football.
off_the_wall (Roscommon) - Posts: 72 - 24/08/2021 11:21:04
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Replying To off_the_wall: "Kildalkey looking good again and with 3 teams winning over the weekend, that can only feed confidence in the club. Longwood not at the races and evident that no hurling done given they skipped the league. They will be back in Group B where they can build again next year.
Ratoath beat a lacklustre Trim team but very unfair on both having to play a county final and then turnaround 2 weeks later and start into a new championship. Really takes away from enjoying a brilliant win for Trim. They also had to deal with some tragic news so I think any team would have struggled to get up to the pitch of things at the weekend.
Na Fianna had a good win over Kiltale but not that surprising given Na Fianna ran Trim to a couple of points a week out from the county final and are starting to bare the fruits of their underage successes. Kiltale look like a team that are finished with no new talent coming through after a very successful spell and will be looking for a win over Longwood to retain a place in the A group. Not sure how long they will remain in Group A and will probably follow the same trajectory as Kilmessan.
Kilmessan probably should have held on over Killyon but both teams are in a similar space with plenty of youth but still relying on the older players.
No real surprise with Blackhall beating Tones. Expect a short stay in Senior for them as football becomes the priority for a lot of their players.
Dunboyne and Clann na Gael was closer than the scoreline suggests. I think Dunboyne are the pick of this group and will trouble the A group teams in the quarter final. I wouldn't write off Clann na Gael coming through this group. They do have to contend with being a dual club which may scupper them in the later rounds as bodies get tired.
Ratoath, Kildalkey, Trim and Na Fianna to go through from A and Dunboyne and Killyon to make it through in B (but I do think that second spot could go to any one of 4 left in that group).
Kildalkey to take Ratoath in the final with Ratoath eyeing a 3 in a row football." If Ratoath make it to another final they definitely will not be beaten
Ratoath did not perform to their best in final while Trim played to their best and scraped it by a pint in extra time, last puck of the game
Lot of talk about trim in last week game being tired/ hung over/gassed
They were beaten by 14 pints
Only scored 2pints from play , 9 in total
10 of Ratoath team played involved with football team and played a match previous week
I think a bit of balance
Ratoath maybe not getting enough credit
And trim are definitely been given a pass for there woeful performance
head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 24/08/2021 12:25:06
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Replying To head4dblackspot: "If Ratoath make it to another final they definitely will not be beaten
Ratoath did not perform to their best in final while Trim played to their best and scraped it by a pint in extra time, last puck of the game
Lot of talk about trim in last week game being tired/ hung over/gassed
They were beaten by 14 pints
Only scored 2pints from play , 9 in total
10 of Ratoath team played involved with football team and played a match previous week
I think a bit of balance
Ratoath maybe not getting enough credit
And trim are definitely been given a pass for there woeful performance" Are you clueless or what. They buried one of their closest 24hrs before the game.
Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 642 - 24/08/2021 13:56:50
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Replying To head4dblackspot: "If Ratoath make it to another final they definitely will not be beaten
Ratoath did not perform to their best in final while Trim played to their best and scraped it by a pint in extra time, last puck of the game
Lot of talk about trim in last week game being tired/ hung over/gassed
They were beaten by 14 pints
Only scored 2pints from play , 9 in total
10 of Ratoath team played involved with football team and played a match previous week
I think a bit of balance
Ratoath maybe not getting enough credit
And trim are definitely been given a pass for there woeful performance" Ha. There were people on here saying that Trim would be beat out the gate in the county final. This post has a hint of the same over the top nonsense.
No guarantee that either will be in this years final - let Ratoath break the duck and win one and your confidence can be justified.
trim1 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 24/08/2021 14:30:50
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Replying To head4dblackspot: "If Ratoath make it to another final they definitely will not be beaten
Ratoath did not perform to their best in final while Trim played to their best and scraped it by a pint in extra time, last puck of the game
Lot of talk about trim in last week game being tired/ hung over/gassed
They were beaten by 14 pints
Only scored 2pints from play , 9 in total
10 of Ratoath team played involved with football team and played a match previous week
I think a bit of balance
Ratoath maybe not getting enough credit
And trim are definitely been given a pass for there woeful performance" Ha. There were people on here saying that Trim would be beat out the gate in the county final. This post has a hint of the same over the top nonsense.
No guarantee that either will be in this years final - let Ratoath break the duck and win one and your confidence can be justified.
trim1 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 24/08/2021 14:50:22
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Replying To trim1: "Ha. There were people on here saying that Trim would be beat out the gate in the county final. This post has a hint of the same over the top nonsense.
No guarantee that either will be in this years final - let Ratoath break the duck and win one and your confidence can be justified." I for one never thought trim would be beaten out the gate or never seen that said
Trim were worthy winners on the day and fully deserve all the plaudits
At the end of the day finals are there to be won and trim went ahead and did just that and Ratoath are left to figure out where it all went wrong
They need to learn from this and I think they will which is why I'm saying if they are lucky enough (and luck is a factor) to get to another final they will get over the line
Interest for me is to see trim next game and how they perform and if they come up short what will excuses be?
Tired/gassed/hungover?
head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 24/08/2021 16:35:03
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Replying To head4dblackspot: "I for one never thought trim would be beaten out the gate or never seen that said
Trim were worthy winners on the day and fully deserve all the plaudits
At the end of the day finals are there to be won and trim went ahead and did just that and Ratoath are left to figure out where it all went wrong
They need to learn from this and I think they will which is why I'm saying if they are lucky enough (and luck is a factor) to get to another final they will get over the line
Interest for me is to see trim next game and how they perform and if they come up short what will excuses be?
Tired/gassed/hungover?" Fair enough. Credit must be given to Ratoath on their performance but the Trim lads had a tough week.
The main thing I disagreed with you was where you said that Ratoath definitely wont be beaten if they get to the final again. I reckon that it would be very much 50 50 if they came up against Kildalkey, Kiltale or Trim. Each of them have won the SHC in recent years and know how to win a final. Ratoath havent proved that yet.
A final is difficult hurdle to cross - as we have found in the football!
stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 24/08/2021 21:29:10
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Replying To stillaroyal: "Fair enough. Credit must be given to Ratoath on their performance but the Trim lads had a tough week.
The main thing I disagreed with you was where you said that Ratoath definitely wont be beaten if they get to the final again. I reckon that it would be very much 50 50 if they came up against Kildalkey, Kiltale or Trim. Each of them have won the SHC in recent years and know how to win a final. Ratoath havent proved that yet.
A final is difficult hurdle to cross - as we have found in the football!" Agree with that.
I think whoever won the 2020 final was most likely going to lose the first game of the 2021 final. Trim would obviously have been celebrating, were missing players and obviously had to deal with a tragedy in the week prior to the game so were nowhere close to their best. Obviously, our lads were hurting from the final so wanted to prove a point.
Also don't know how anyone can say we won't be beaten if we get to the final. While Trim could struggle (remains to be seen), Kildalkey would be looking to prove a point this year as well having thrown away the semi final against Trim last year. It's a very open championship and I'd expect the 3rd and 4th placed teams in group A to make it to the semi finals. If that were to happen, it's anyone's guess who makes it to the final and who wins it.
Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 25/08/2021 10:29:57
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So with round 1 over and with 1 shock result and not a shock i predicted where Na Fianna beat Kiltale we move on to round 2.
Longwood V Na Fianna
NA Fianna to continue their winning ways, Longwood wont survive this group.
Na Fianna by 10
Ratoath V Kildalkey
Ratoath never really looked troubled in round 1, many reasons for Trims performance, Kildalkey struggled with Longwood in the first half but as expected wont handy, Ratoath will want to continue winning ways and i think they will by a slender margin after a battle.
Ratoath by 3
Kiltale V Trim
Both teams down 2 points, this will have a full championship feeling about it, neither will want another loss especially Kiltale with Ratoath to face in round 4 and Kildalkey in round 5 and Trim face Kildalkey in round 3. I fancy the champions to edge this one but only just.
Trim by 2
Kilmessan V BHG
Kilmessan opening round draw could be a costly point drooped but might be a saving grace after round 5. BHG seemed to have a decent win over Tones, teams in this group IMO are battling for 2nd as Dunboyne i think will top it.
BHG by 2
Dunboyne V Killyon
Dunboyne clipped CNG with a good score playing well, Killyon could have a tough day here unless they have a full team available which they didn't the last day, lets hope they have but i still fancy Dunboyne.
Dunboyne by 7
Wolfe Tones V CNG
Tones well beaten on the scoreboard by BHG as were CNG by Dunboyne, the red card that O Sullivan got for CNG could be the telling factor so i fancy Tones here but only just.
Tones by 3
StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 25/08/2021 13:26:04
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The allocation of pitches I have to say has been poor in my opinion .. I don't know about anyone else opinion but longwood should not deserve senior hurling matches after not fielding for the league and also the pitch was in terrible condition for killyon v kilmessan.
Also might aswell have been a home fixture for killyon.
Anyone else thinking the same ?
Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 84 - 28/08/2021 02:39:31
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Wouldnt agree with it being a home fixture for killyon as they would play there no more than kilmessan.
would agree with not fielding a team in the the league as being an issue. Where does that leave any relegation. Maybe no relegation from davis cup but still unfair for it to have been allowed.
Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 29/08/2021 01:01:45
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