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Replying To Whyalwaysmeath:  "Delighted with the win today, thought we made it very difficult on ourselves second half with alot of mistakes, carrying the ball into dead ends and getting swamped out of it a few times, made the end more nervy than it needed to be.

Great to bounce back though and put up a decent score after the semi final, thought Conlon was excellent, lively all day and 3 points was a good return. Keogan was again superb.

Most expect us to lose all 3 super 8 games, that may well happen or we may pull off a surprise but whatever the outcome, playing Donegal, Mayo and Kerry in competitive matches will serve us very well ahead of playing our trade in Division 1 next year, it's experience that should stand to us. It's been a great year, anything else is a bonus and progress has undeniably been made. Have to be happy with that."
Have to totally agree. Let's be honest only one team will win, and that is Dublin. The others have all notions about themselves, but Meath have progressed so much this year, that even 3 defeat won't matter. All eyes now turn to January and the league for me. I will go to every match believing we will win every one starting in ballybofey, but you know what? I really won't be bothered too much. Every goal achieved. What a year, next step in been in the shake up starts now, but it will be another 2/3 years before we will get there.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15994 - 07/07/2019 20:37:00    2207366

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Have to totally agree. Let's be honest only one team will win, and that is Dublin. The others have all notions about themselves, but Meath have progressed so much this year, that even 3 defeat won't matter. All eyes now turn to January and the league for me. I will go to every match believing we will win every one starting in ballybofey, but you know what? I really won't be bothered too much. Every goal achieved. What a year, next step in been in the shake up starts now, but it will be another 2/3 years before we will get there."
Ah yeah absolutely, will take time to build, few years at least. No pressure on them now, they should be able to go out an enjoy the 3 games. Today can't have been enjoyable because there was alot of pressure on it.

Meant to call out McGills brilliant block towards the end, capped another fine performance from him.

Whyalwaysmeath (Meath) - Posts: 23 - 07/07/2019 21:18:41    2207398

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Regardless of whether Meath are a top 8 team or not, they are there and as previous posters say have had impressive results in the league,
They did beat Armagh in a wind swept Navan bit the wind was there for both teams
Leinster and Ireland needs a stronger Meath, hopefully their fans come out and support them,
Well done the royals

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1546 - 07/07/2019 21:23:25    2207406

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Replying To Whyalwaysmeath:  "Ah yeah absolutely, will take time to build, few years at least. No pressure on them now, they should be able to go out an enjoy the 3 games. Today can't have been enjoyable because there was alot of pressure on it.

Meant to call out McGills brilliant block towards the end, capped another fine performance from him."
Yeah it was brilliant. Also have to call out Ben Brennan, the guy got unfairly singled out of all the forwards the last day who had a off day, and received dogs abuse, he was battling from moment he came on today and scored a brilliant point that actually turned out to be the winning score, Ben is a family man with a young child, so I felt really sorry for what he went through. And I'm delighted for him on a personal level.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15994 - 07/07/2019 21:50:25    2207447

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Replying To cuchulainn35:  "Regardless of whether Meath are a top 8 team or not, they are there and as previous posters say have had impressive results in the league,
They did beat Armagh in a wind swept Navan bit the wind was there for both teams
Leinster and Ireland needs a stronger Meath, hopefully their fans come out and support them,
Well done the royals"
Appreciate that. And best wishes for next year. That was some wind in navan that day.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15994 - 07/07/2019 21:51:41    2207448

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Have to totally agree. Let's be honest only one team will win, and that is Dublin. The others have all notions about themselves, but Meath have progressed so much this year, that even 3 defeat won't matter. All eyes now turn to January and the league for me. I will go to every match believing we will win every one starting in ballybofey, but you know what? I really won't be bothered too much. Every goal achieved. What a year, next step in been in the shake up starts now, but it will be another 2/3 years before we will get there."
More nonsense.
Other teams will have notions, your full of notions some of the rubbish you post on here.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1224 - 07/07/2019 21:53:24    2207451

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Replying To westkerry:  "More nonsense.
Other teams will have notions, your full of notions some of the rubbish you post on here."
Enjoy your trip to navan.
Hon the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15994 - 07/07/2019 22:18:00    2207473

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Apologies on behalf of meath for not being the inter provincial standard you are used to watching."
Short reply is all that is needed to dismiss them, unlike the War and Peace effort from some to praise them

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4169 - 07/07/2019 23:36:38    2207519

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Yeah it was brilliant. Also have to call out Ben Brennan, the guy got unfairly singled out of all the forwards the last day who had a off day, and received dogs abuse, he was battling from moment he came on today and scored a brilliant point that actually turned out to be the winning score, Ben is a family man with a young child, so I felt really sorry for what he went through. And I'm delighted for him on a personal level."
Yea I wonder who compiles the highlight reels in rte, they didn't even show mcgills block at the end, as good as any point. I didn't hear Brennan getting any over the top abuse in fairness..... he got slated for missing 3 scorable frees alright, and he should have scored and im sure he knows that

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 660 - 08/07/2019 07:24:52    2207556

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Meath have had better season then Armagh..Armagh and McGeeney are always hyped. A good team with potential. But Meath were promoted to div 1. Armagh werent promoted. Meath played Armagh in the league and comprehensivly beat them. Meath dominated the first half were 9 points up at half time . Armagh had a good 10 to 15 mins at start of second half but Meath took control and won by 6 points. Meath played by Armagh and won by 6 points this year , Meath were promoted , Armagh werent. Armagh couldnt beat Kildare. Meath beat kildare and should have beaten them.by comprehensivly by 6 or 7 points as they dominated the second half. Meath have better defence then Armagh.

In every ranking I have seen this year , in 3 of them I have saw Meath are ranked eitheir 8 or 9th in the country. Meath are not division 4 or division 3 team. Meath are a top division 2 team trying break into top 8. Meath are a top ten team. So to question Meath in last 8 seems a strange one and probaly comes from people who hate Meath football and want and need Meath football to fail. If Meath are not in top 8 teams in the country they are not million miles away Meath are top ten team and to say otherwise is usually someone wants and needs Meath to fail.

All below are facts. Not opinion just facts.

Since Longford game last year.
Meath went toe toe toe with All Ireland finalist Tyrone and only for 5th min point in injury time for Tyrone Meath would have won. Tyrone win in extra time in contervesey. Overall brillant performance by Meath against one best teams in the country.

Meath played two time Ulster champions this year. Donegal were strong favourites. Meath dominated the game til 63rd min in Ballybofey and were 4 points up. Donegal scored a lucky goal but showed their class to win game by 2 points. Another excellent performance by Meath against one of best teams in the country.

Meath played Donegal in the league final. Meath were best team in first half 5 points ahead at half. Donegal were the better team in second half and win by 2. Kildare played Donegal a week earlier and were beaten by 11 points by Donegal. That was third time in 2 years Meath went toe toe toe with Donegal and the difference between teams was the brilliant McBreaty and Murphy. Two excellent Meath performances this year against possibly the second or third best team in the coutry.

This year Meath have won 10 competitive game. They only won 3 last year. Tippearey and Cork comprehensivly beat Meath last year Meath defeated both team well this year.

This year
Meath defeated Tippearey by 4 points.
Meath defeated Armagh by 6 points.
Meath defeated kildare by 1 point.
Meath defeated Cork by 6 points.
Meath defeated Clare by 5 points.
Meath defeated Clare by 1 point.
Meath defeated Fermanagh by 7 points.
Meath defeated Offaly by 2 points.
Meath defeated Carlow by 15 points.
Meath defeated Laois by 11 points.

From those results Meath are not div 3 or div 4 team. Meath can beat every team in divsion 2. Donegal are not division 2 team. Meath are not in top 6 or 7 teams in the country but they are 8th 9th or 10th. Meath defeated Armagh and kildare this year and are ahead of both. Cavan and Galway would be close tight games with Meath. But overall Meath have shown this year massive improvement and going in right direction.

Meath defeated Armagh by 6 points ( one of the teams of the summer). Meath defeated Cork by 6 points. Cork are in the super 8. Meath defeated Laois by 11 points and laois nearly reached super 8. Meath beat Offaly who have their best season in years in championship. Meath are not top 6 or 7 team. But to say they are crap is wrong and comes from someone who wants and needs Meath to fail and hates Meath.

Meath could struggled in super 8. like Roscommon last year. But Roscommon showed this championship that playing Super 8 football and div 1 football is priceless experience and one of the reasons why Roscommon beat Mayo and Galway and are Connacht champions. Even if Meath are hammered in the three games, 3 games in Super 8 and spring in div 1 is priceless for these players and is worth ten years in div 2.

Super 8 will great experience next year for div 1. Meath next year could have 8 or 9 panelist returning including our best forward Donal lenihan. Next year Donal lenihan, Ronan Jones , Eamon Wallace, Joey Wallace, Ruari O Coilean, Niall kane , Alan Forde and Paddy Kennelly by chance should all be return after travelling or working or in college abroad this year. Also Meath have a very strong under 20 team this year. And there is allot of very talented young forwards coming through Meath at ages 17 18 19 20. James Conlon has been excellent but James Conlon wouldnt be the best talent we have coming through I would rate Walsh , Mitchell , Costello and Finnerty higher. So next year Meaths panel will be stronger.

For people who hate Meath football this will be bad news. But Meath are getting stronger and will continue to get stronger. Next season 2020 and 2021 this Meath team.will.peak and make its biggest impact in championship. We could struggle in next 3 games but it will invaluable experience for this Meath. And super 8 football and div 1 football next year will mean in next years championship Meath will make big impact. With players peaking eg Keoghan McGill McEntee. Returning players eg Lenihan. And new talent eg Walsh Costello.

Meath have good forwards and Conlon looks a real talent. But Meath wouldnt not have div 1 forwards. I would say kildare Donegal Galway have better forwards then Meath. But Meath had best defence in div 2. And Meath have division 1 defence. Meath have a better defence then some teams in div 1. Kerry and Galway dont have defenders as good as McGill or keoghan. Harnan would walk onto allot of division 1 defences. Blanket defences have destroyed defending. Players dont want to defend. Where are all great man markers like Tom Sullivan Sean Lockart Marc O Se gone.

Dublin and Mayo have great defenders. They can go 15 on 15 . So do Meath. Meath have been shakey at the back for 20 years. This is the most solid Meath defence in over 20 years.
Keoghan Harnan McGill are quality top class defenders. Keoghan is one best defenders in Ireland. McGill is one best full backs in Ireland. Harnan is a proven quality inter county defender who is still only 24. Lavin and Gallagher are out and out man markers. And are good ones. Ryan has been excellent addition to the backs. A fast hard tackling Summerhill Meath defender in the mould of other Summerhill defender eg Lyons and Mark Reilly. While Kane , Mcoy , Curran are all good defenders also.

Meath kept Dublin to their lowest score in championship match in first half in 8 years in leinster final. The last time Dublin scored so low in championship match was in 2011 v McGuiness Donegal. Keoghan kept Kilkenny the quitest I have ever seen him. And McGill kept Costello very quite. At least 4 of the Meath backs got better of Dublin forward line. They tired in last 15 mins. But Meath have a good quality defence defenders who are natural defenders.

Overall people read allot into Dublin game. Dublin have hammered every team in leinster by average 15 points in last 5 years. Dublin have hammered nearly every team in the country in league or championship in last 5 years that includes Tyrone Mayo and kerry. Dublin second team hammered Roscommon by 15 points last year. Dublin are possibly the greatest team ever ro play football. To compare any team v them is unfair. especially upcoming top ten team like Meath. look at Meaths excellent performances v Donegal 3 times , Tyrone and Meath excellent results v Armagh kildare Galway Roscommon Fermanagh Laois Cork under McEntee. Thats shows where Meath are at.

For the people who want and so badly need Meath to fail the super 8 could be enjoyment for u. But overall in the next two to three years Meath are going get stronger and stronger. They have the management team. They have some quality players peaking eg Keoghan McGill McEntee Harnan Newman Sullivan Menton kane..And have some exciting young talent coming through eg James Conlon Ethan Devine Dara Campion Shane Walsh Matthew Costello Aaron Lynch Cian McBride Luke Mitchell. And u never know Meath might do better in super 8 then people think. If Newman is gone that could be a massive blow for Meath. But Meath will not fear Donegal Mayo or kerry our record v all three teams is real good."
Wow this is so cringey is hurts me, especially the meath football.... it just matters more haha!

"Don't right us off yet. We are Meath and that matters to ten and thousands in our great county. We are quite people, but byjaysus when we are risen we are ferocious and fierce competitors, the fiecest toughest competitors u will ever meet. The blood that runs through Meath footballers veins is the thickest most stubborn most unyeilding u will come across. Hate us all u want. But we aint going anywhere. Meath football it just matters more."

Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 133 - 08/07/2019 13:06:28    2207772

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Replying To cuttothebone:  "Something awful wrong with a system when either of these teams get in super 8's ahead of the likes Galway, Armagh or Cavan, but thems the breaks i suppose."
Clare have drawn with Armagh and Cavan in their last 2 league encounters and lost to Armagh in a very tight game last year int he qualifiers. Those teams are not that much better than Meath or Clare. Bar the top 6 or 7, there is very little between about the next 10 or 12 in mine opinion.

Clareman (Clare) - Posts: 977 - 08/07/2019 15:55:01    2207936

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Replying To Clareman:  "Clare have drawn with Armagh and Cavan in their last 2 league encounters and lost to Armagh in a very tight game last year int he qualifiers. Those teams are not that much better than Meath or Clare. Bar the top 6 or 7, there is very little between about the next 10 or 12 in mine opinion."
I'd agree completely. The standard of Meath/Clare wasn't of the highest standard but for a one-off championship game it was very, very entertaining. Clare in my view have better individuals around certain areas than Meath; Brennan, O'Connor, Tubridy, etc are very good players. I did however feel that Meath as a team were superior and their strength (in the backs), and their physical conditioning as the game wore on was the difference. If both teams werent as wasteful it could have ended maybe 3-19 to 1-20. It was a very high-scoring, nervy, old fashioned game where the two teams gave it everything and yes, it was messy and error-strewn but what of it? I agree, outside Dublin, Tyrone, Kerry, Mayo, and Donegal there's maybe 6/8 teams of a very similar standard who could be in Meath's position today and another number of teams knocking on the door. Personally I really enjoyed the game and I hope Meath/Clare meet more often as it was a very good spirited game and a fascinating tussle.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 184 - 08/07/2019 16:44:52    2207981

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Meath have had better season then Armagh..Armagh and McGeeney are always hyped. A good team with potential. But Meath were promoted to div 1. Armagh werent promoted. Meath played Armagh in the league and comprehensivly beat them. Meath dominated the first half were 9 points up at half time . Armagh had a good 10 to 15 mins at start of second half but Meath took control and won by 6 points. Meath played by Armagh and won by 6 points this year , Meath were promoted , Armagh werent. Armagh couldnt beat Kildare. Meath beat kildare and should have beaten them.by comprehensivly by 6 or 7 points as they dominated the second half. Meath have better defence then Armagh.

In every ranking I have seen this year , in 3 of them I have saw Meath are ranked eitheir 8 or 9th in the country. Meath are not division 4 or division 3 team. Meath are a top division 2 team trying break into top 8. Meath are a top ten team. So to question Meath in last 8 seems a strange one and probaly comes from people who hate Meath football and want and need Meath football to fail. If Meath are not in top 8 teams in the country they are not million miles away Meath are top ten team and to say otherwise is usually someone wants and needs Meath to fail.

All below are facts. Not opinion just facts.

Since Longford game last year.
Meath went toe toe toe with All Ireland finalist Tyrone and only for 5th min point in injury time for Tyrone Meath would have won. Tyrone win in extra time in contervesey. Overall brillant performance by Meath against one best teams in the country.

Meath played two time Ulster champions this year. Donegal were strong favourites. Meath dominated the game til 63rd min in Ballybofey and were 4 points up. Donegal scored a lucky goal but showed their class to win game by 2 points. Another excellent performance by Meath against one of best teams in the country.

Meath played Donegal in the league final. Meath were best team in first half 5 points ahead at half. Donegal were the better team in second half and win by 2. Kildare played Donegal a week earlier and were beaten by 11 points by Donegal. That was third time in 2 years Meath went toe toe toe with Donegal and the difference between teams was the brilliant McBreaty and Murphy. Two excellent Meath performances this year against possibly the second or third best team in the coutry.

This year Meath have won 10 competitive game. They only won 3 last year. Tippearey and Cork comprehensivly beat Meath last year Meath defeated both team well this year.

This year
Meath defeated Tippearey by 4 points.
Meath defeated Armagh by 6 points.
Meath defeated kildare by 1 point.
Meath defeated Cork by 6 points.
Meath defeated Clare by 5 points.
Meath defeated Clare by 1 point.
Meath defeated Fermanagh by 7 points.
Meath defeated Offaly by 2 points.
Meath defeated Carlow by 15 points.
Meath defeated Laois by 11 points.

From those results Meath are not div 3 or div 4 team. Meath can beat every team in divsion 2. Donegal are not division 2 team. Meath are not in top 6 or 7 teams in the country but they are 8th 9th or 10th. Meath defeated Armagh and kildare this year and are ahead of both. Cavan and Galway would be close tight games with Meath. But overall Meath have shown this year massive improvement and going in right direction.

Meath defeated Armagh by 6 points ( one of the teams of the summer). Meath defeated Cork by 6 points. Cork are in the super 8. Meath defeated Laois by 11 points and laois nearly reached super 8. Meath beat Offaly who have their best season in years in championship. Meath are not top 6 or 7 team. But to say they are crap is wrong and comes from someone who wants and needs Meath to fail and hates Meath.

Meath could struggled in super 8. like Roscommon last year. But Roscommon showed this championship that playing Super 8 football and div 1 football is priceless experience and one of the reasons why Roscommon beat Mayo and Galway and are Connacht champions. Even if Meath are hammered in the three games, 3 games in Super 8 and spring in div 1 is priceless for these players and is worth ten years in div 2.

Super 8 will great experience next year for div 1. Meath next year could have 8 or 9 panelist returning including our best forward Donal lenihan. Next year Donal lenihan, Ronan Jones , Eamon Wallace, Joey Wallace, Ruari O Coilean, Niall kane , Alan Forde and Paddy Kennelly by chance should all be return after travelling or working or in college abroad this year. Also Meath have a very strong under 20 team this year. And there is allot of very talented young forwards coming through Meath at ages 17 18 19 20. James Conlon has been excellent but James Conlon wouldnt be the best talent we have coming through I would rate Walsh , Mitchell , Costello and Finnerty higher. So next year Meaths panel will be stronger.

For people who hate Meath football this will be bad news. But Meath are getting stronger and will continue to get stronger. Next season 2020 and 2021 this Meath team.will.peak and make its biggest impact in championship. We could struggle in next 3 games but it will invaluable experience for this Meath. And super 8 football and div 1 football next year will mean in next years championship Meath will make big impact. With players peaking eg Keoghan McGill McEntee. Returning players eg Lenihan. And new talent eg Walsh Costello.

Meath have good forwards and Conlon looks a real talent. But Meath wouldnt not have div 1 forwards. I would say kildare Donegal Galway have better forwards then Meath. But Meath had best defence in div 2. And Meath have division 1 defence. Meath have a better defence then some teams in div 1. Kerry and Galway dont have defenders as good as McGill or keoghan. Harnan would walk onto allot of division 1 defences. Blanket defences have destroyed defending. Players dont want to defend. Where are all great man markers like Tom Sullivan Sean Lockart Marc O Se gone.

Dublin and Mayo have great defenders. They can go 15 on 15 . So do Meath. Meath have been shakey at the back for 20 years. This is the most solid Meath defence in over 20 years.
Keoghan Harnan McGill are quality top class defenders. Keoghan is one best defenders in Ireland. McGill is one best full backs in Ireland. Harnan is a proven quality inter county defender who is still only 24. Lavin and Gallagher are out and out man markers. And are good ones. Ryan has been excellent addition to the backs. A fast hard tackling Summerhill Meath defender in the mould of other Summerhill defender eg Lyons and Mark Reilly. While Kane , Mcoy , Curran are all good defenders also.

Meath kept Dublin to their lowest score in championship match in first half in 8 years in leinster final. The last time Dublin scored so low in championship match was in 2011 v McGuiness Donegal. Keoghan kept Kilkenny the quitest I have ever seen him. And McGill kept Costello very quite. At least 4 of the Meath backs got better of Dublin forward line. They tired in last 15 mins. But Meath have a good quality defence defenders who are natural defenders.

Overall people read allot into Dublin game. Dublin have hammered every team in leinster by average 15 points in last 5 years. Dublin have hammered nearly every team in the country in league or championship in last 5 years that includes Tyrone Mayo and kerry. Dublin second team hammered Roscommon by 15 points last year. Dublin are possibly the greatest team ever ro play football. To compare any team v them is unfair. especially upcoming top ten team like Meath. look at Meaths excellent performances v Donegal 3 times , Tyrone and Meath excellent results v Armagh kildare Galway Roscommon Fermanagh Laois Cork under McEntee. Thats shows where Meath are at.

For the people who want and so badly need Meath to fail the super 8 could be enjoyment for u. But overall in the next two to three years Meath are going get stronger and stronger. They have the management team. They have some quality players peaking eg Keoghan McGill McEntee Harnan Newman Sullivan Menton kane..And have some exciting young talent coming through eg James Conlon Ethan Devine Dara Campion Shane Walsh Matthew Costello Aaron Lynch Cian McBride Luke Mitchell. And u never know Meath might do better in super 8 then people think. If Newman is gone that could be a massive blow for Meath. But Meath will not fear Donegal Mayo or kerry our record v all three teams is real good."
Ha haaa ! Jaysus that's some load of wallop.
That was Meath's All Ireland . They'll get a roasting now they are in the big time.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1003 - 08/07/2019 16:56:44    2207995

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Ha haaa ! Jaysus that's some load of wallop.
That was Meath's All Ireland . They'll get a roasting now they are in the big time.

i couldn't agree any more. meath got promotion because they were at their fittest during the league and got a start on everybody else. they beat nobody realistically in the back door and being embarrassed in the leinster final

super 8's will be 3 losses and div 1 next year will be relegation. there's at least 10 or 11 teams i'd say are better than them

superdub (Dublin) - Posts: 347 - 08/07/2019 17:33:40    2208020

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Replying To superdub:  "Ha haaa ! Jaysus that's some load of wallop.
That was Meath's All Ireland . They'll get a roasting now they are in the big time.

i couldn't agree any more. meath got promotion because they were at their fittest during the league and got a start on everybody else. they beat nobody realistically in the back door and being embarrassed in the leinster final

super 8's will be 3 losses and div 1 next year will be relegation. there's at least 10 or 11 teams i'd say are better than them"
Can I ask who would they be?

Eri (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 08/07/2019 18:46:18    2208052

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Replying To Miami305:  "Wow this is so cringey is hurts me, especially the meath football.... it just matters more haha!

"Don't right us off yet. We are Meath and that matters to ten and thousands in our great county. We are quite people, but byjaysus when we are risen we are ferocious and fierce competitors, the fiecest toughest competitors u will ever meet. The blood that runs through Meath footballers veins is the thickest most stubborn most unyeilding u will come across. Hate us all u want. But we aint going anywhere. Meath football it just matters more.""
what about Galway over hyped little Nancy boys in both hurling and football who believe they are better then everyone else both don't put in the work to make that happen apart from once in twenty years

meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 415 - 08/07/2019 20:02:21    2208103

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Replying To Clareman:  "Clare have drawn with Armagh and Cavan in their last 2 league encounters and lost to Armagh in a very tight game last year int he qualifiers. Those teams are not that much better than Meath or Clare. Bar the top 6 or 7, there is very little between about the next 10 or 12 in mine opinion."
Exactly, there's a lot of teams around the same level. Picking the top eight teams is not exactly straight forward.

A rough try:

1. Dublin

2 - 5: Tyrone, Mayo, Kerry, Donegal

6 - 7: Roscommon and Galway

8: Anyone's guess. About 7 teams could probably argue the toss. Cork, Clare, Monaghan, Cavan, Armagh, Meath, Kildare etc. Just depends on the day. Monaghan were above all those teams but have regressed bit this year, might only be temporary though.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 207 - 08/07/2019 20:13:36    2208113

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