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Replying To Viking66: "Think they got their wires crossed" No wires crossed. Just left out O'Brien out of list.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 1056 - 17/07/2026 16:38:48
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Replying To Viking66: "As far as I remember Paudie Foley hurled mostly wingback for Wexford.
Dara Kehoe and Richie Lawlor are nearly 6', Conor Foley, Cian Molloy, Eoin Ryan, Eoin Whelan and Jack Redmond are a little over it. We have a few 6' plus lads coming up out of u20 too." Yeah but regardless of where he played, it's been too easy for teams to play against our defence ever since 2023
I think you're over-estimating Richie Lawlor's height by a little bit, the others are probably that height and yes, those who are 20 or younger seem to be taller and look to have better S&C work done
But the lads you mentioned being taller leaves out the fact we've very few "skyscrapers" (Charlie Roark and Charlie Mooney would be good examples of players who are "skyscrapers"), most players don't need to be that tall but you need to have a few on the team
Also, even with those lads who are around or just above 6'0, you still have the likes of Simon Roche, Cian Byrne, Cillian Byrne, Darragh Carley, Richie Lawlor, Corey Byrne-Dunbar, David Codd, and Oisín Pepper who are no taller than 5'10
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1440 - 17/07/2026 17:21:58
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "I've come around on Derek McGrath tbh, was initially against him when I heard the rumours about a month ago but while he will play a sweeper system, we have had a soft spine ever since Paudie Foley stopped playing so a sweeper might actually suit us, teams usually drop their #6 back anyway so it's not as if the way Limerick and Galway play is that far away from being a sweeper system, there is some degree of overlap between the two
He does have a track record of success, most important thing is that he gets the best hurlers in Wexford hurling for Wexford, will still need to blood in young players during the league but it's a lot easier to blood them in when you don't have to rather than when you have to
I still think there's good young talent in the county (Enough to be competitive in Leinster aside from Galway although Munster is a completely different kettle of fish), problem is we're behind on S&C in that 21-24yo bracket and even when they do fill out, a load of them are around 5'9
Anyway, we just need some sort of boost because there's a lot of negativity in the county, hopefully Derek is the man to give us that shot in the arm" Tadhg Deburca was one of the best defenders of that era. He has been very unlucky with injuries but a top hurler when fit. McGrath had a lot to do with that.
Waterford were a very exciting team to watch under McGrath. They were excellent at times and played a high intensity high tempo brand of hurling. They couldn't sustain it for 70+ minutes though and were heavily punished on the scoreboard during their bulls. They lost a few big games because of this but won a few too. If he matches what he did at Waterford I think you will be happy enough.
Ive met him a few times and hes an absolute gent.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 740 - 17/07/2026 17:36:55
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Are you suggesting they might have been the other candidates?
I honestly don't know myself. Anything I heard along the way would have just been the same sort of rumours that everybody else was hearing anyway." Absolutely, its all rumours!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20293 - 17/07/2026 22:35:11
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Yeah but regardless of where he played, it's been too easy for teams to play against our defence ever since 2023
I think you're over-estimating Richie Lawlor's height by a little bit, the others are probably that height and yes, those who are 20 or younger seem to be taller and look to have better S&C work done
But the lads you mentioned being taller leaves out the fact we've very few "skyscrapers" (Charlie Roark and Charlie Mooney would be good examples of players who are "skyscrapers"), most players don't need to be that tall but you need to have a few on the team
Also, even with those lads who are around or just above 6'0, you still have the likes of Simon Roche, Cian Byrne, Cillian Byrne, Darragh Carley, Richie Lawlor, Corey Byrne-Dunbar, David Codd, and Oisín Pepper who are no taller than 5'10" Not sure why you are saying since 2023? Paudie Foley didnt play for us in 2021 either, and we had 2 bad beatings in our only 2 Championship games in 2020. Hes a good player, but not the best back in Wexford. He'd left the panel 3 different times between 2015 and the end of 2022. The best ability is availability.
As regards the others on the list there around 5'10 or less, only Richie and Cian have played more than a few Championship minutes before this year. Some of those lads likely wont make many more Championship appearances. Its up to themselves if they really want it and can improve to the level required. Plenty of lads aroumd the country their height have had great Senior intercounty careers.
Oisin Pepper was good in the Football tonight, looks to have got a good bit stronger, and still can be explosive.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20293 - 17/07/2026 23:03:19
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Yeah but regardless of where he played, it's been too easy for teams to play against our defence ever since 2023
I think you're over-estimating Richie Lawlor's height by a little bit, the others are probably that height and yes, those who are 20 or younger seem to be taller and look to have better S&C work done
But the lads you mentioned being taller leaves out the fact we've very few "skyscrapers" (Charlie Roark and Charlie Mooney would be good examples of players who are "skyscrapers"), most players don't need to be that tall but you need to have a few on the team
Also, even with those lads who are around or just above 6'0, you still have the likes of Simon Roche, Cian Byrne, Cillian Byrne, Darragh Carley, Richie Lawlor, Corey Byrne-Dunbar, David Codd, and Oisín Pepper who are no taller than 5'10" Richie is about 5 foot 8
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4614 - 17/07/2026 23:35:43
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "I've come around on Derek McGrath tbh, was initially against him when I heard the rumours about a month ago but while he will play a sweeper system, we have had a soft spine ever since Paudie Foley stopped playing so a sweeper might actually suit us, teams usually drop their #6 back anyway so it's not as if the way Limerick and Galway play is that far away from being a sweeper system, there is some degree of overlap between the two
He does have a track record of success, most important thing is that he gets the best hurlers in Wexford hurling for Wexford, will still need to blood in young players during the league but it's a lot easier to blood them in when you don't have to rather than when you have to
I still think there's good young talent in the county (Enough to be competitive in Leinster aside from Galway although Munster is a completely different kettle of fish), problem is we're behind on S&C in that 21-24yo bracket and even when they do fill out, a load of them are around 5'9
Anyway, we just need some sort of boost because there's a lot of negativity in the county, hopefully Derek is the man to give us that shot in the arm" I've come around to it too. We haven't the players to go 15 on 15 so if he wants to make us more competitive with sweepers etc then fair enough. McGrath seemed to have a content camp in Waterford from memory with nearly every available player committing. I'm surprised he wanted the job in all honesty so fair play for taking it. Not an easy gig.
Challenge to try and get more players to commit. And for those of the panel to properly commit, not be golfing and messing etc
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 596 - 19/07/2026 18:33:21
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Replying To Timbertony: "I've come around to it too. We haven't the players to go 15 on 15 so if he wants to make us more competitive with sweepers etc then fair enough. McGrath seemed to have a content camp in Waterford from memory with nearly every available player committing. I'm surprised he wanted the job in all honesty so fair play for taking it. Not an easy gig.
Challenge to try and get more players to commit. And for those of the panel to properly commit, not be golfing and messing etc" What do you mean "not be golfing and messing"?
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 2124 - 20/07/2026 15:24:09
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Replying To Timbertony: "I've come around to it too. We haven't the players to go 15 on 15 so if he wants to make us more competitive with sweepers etc then fair enough. McGrath seemed to have a content camp in Waterford from memory with nearly every available player committing. I'm surprised he wanted the job in all honesty so fair play for taking it. Not an easy gig.
Challenge to try and get more players to commit. And for those of the panel to properly commit, not be golfing and messing etc" Given how low the starting point is I'd say the only way is up.
His set up will be professional, positive and well organized.
Honestly he's not my favourite, but he's had a lot of success so I do think he'll improve us. He's pretty big on developing youth as well and we have plenty of that.
Would be great to get some experience back too though. Rory, the gorey lads, Ian carty and James Lawlor who I believe are coming home.
Given how far off the pace we were this year, even if the only thing he achieved was a better tactical set up I think that would go pretty far.
In spite of every, we only missed out on promotion and a league final by a puck of a ball.
Just look at what Offaly did this year. We can surely reach that level with a few months of good work.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4614 - 20/07/2026 23:24:06
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Given how low the starting point is I'd say the only way is up.
His set up will be professional, positive and well organized.
Honestly he's not my favourite, but he's had a lot of success so I do think he'll improve us. He's pretty big on developing youth as well and we have plenty of that.
Would be great to get some experience back too though. Rory, the gorey lads, Ian carty and James Lawlor who I believe are coming home.
Given how far off the pace we were this year, even if the only thing he achieved was a better tactical set up I think that would go pretty far.
In spite of every, we only missed out on promotion and a league final by a puck of a ball.
Just look at what Offaly did this year. We can surely reach that level with a few months of good work." Id like to see him have the panel in before the start of collective training in November/December for individual motivational, tactical and psychological work and team bonding stuff once a week while the club championship is on.
Surely wouldn't affect club training, it wouldnt be collective or individual physical training, so shouldn't be against the rules, and shouldn't cost the Board too much either.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20293 - 21/07/2026 10:28:22
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Given how low the starting point is I'd say the only way is up.
His set up will be professional, positive and well organized.
Honestly he's not my favourite, but he's had a lot of success so I do think he'll improve us. He's pretty big on developing youth as well and we have plenty of that.
Would be great to get some experience back too though. Rory, the gorey lads, Ian carty and James Lawlor who I believe are coming home.
Given how far off the pace we were this year, even if the only thing he achieved was a better tactical set up I think that would go pretty far.
In spite of every, we only missed out on promotion and a league final by a puck of a ball.
Just look at what Offaly did this year. We can surely reach that level with a few months of good work." After this years shambles, the only way is up.
But we could get John Kiely, Paul Kinnerk and Brian Cody in and if the players don't give it their all then we are not at the races.
IF Wexford have everybody pulling in the one direction, all players available committed, all willing to give their all for the jersey then we're not far off what is there in Leinster.
We badly need to not have the relegation worry we had this year. 3 home games, albeit away to Dublin and Galway, won't be easy.
But its a fresh start for everybody, the players can't say after Darragh Egan and Rossi (who to his credit took the job when nobody would go near it) that the county board didn't get a coach with a top reputation. They all should go and hear what he has to say.
No point being the best barstool hurler in the land. We need to get ourselves out of the mire and supporters need to get out and support them from the opening round of the league. If nothing else, it might entice a young minor or U20 in the stand to aspire to playing for the county.
Time for the excuses to stop.
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 2124 - 21/07/2026 11:48:00
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