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Tipp have 53 adult soccer teams, we have 88. Tipp have nearly twice as many adult hurling teams as we have. But enough of the excuses, why do you think they have won more AI hurling titles than we have? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18046 - 19/01/2026 00:25:31 2651762 Link 0 |
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Tipp have 53 adult soccer teams, we have 88. Tipp have nearly twice as many adult hurling teams as we have. But enough of the excuses, why do you think they have won more AI hurling titles than we have? PS they don't have a League of Ireland soccer club featuring multiple teams, and an excellent underage academy, either. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18046 - 19/01/2026 00:28:08 2651764 Link 0 |
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We beat them twice in 2023 also. But thats in the past now. All about trying to get a good few of those lads developed into good or great Senior hurlers now.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18046 - 19/01/2026 08:16:14 2651773 Link 0 |
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You think Rossi has done a better job than Derek Lyng?
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 926 - 19/01/2026 09:34:34 2651785 Link 0 |
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I think both have suffered from the same problems in their general management, maybe experience has something to do with it. Both slow on the line, both have had players drop off their panels, rumours of unhappy players etc. The difference is I think Keith has made more of an effort to give younger lads more time on the pitch to improve their game. I get that some of it was enforced by injuries, but not all of it. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18046 - 19/01/2026 10:17:43 2651802 Link 0 |
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At integrating new players yes. Our panel has changed an awful lot more than theirs in the past 7 years. I'm sure Viking knows Kilkenny have won every Leinster title since 2020 and are still reaching all Ireland finals. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4154 - 19/01/2026 10:21:54 2651807 Link 0 |
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I'm not making excuses. I'm providing a rationale as to why I think it's more difficult in Wexford than some other places. I still don't think we're getting the best out of what we have. Take Limerick as an example. Munster rugby decline is in perfect tandem with Limerick hurlings success. It's extremely difficult to have your eggs in every basket with the resources we have. If it were up to me, hurling would be the priority for everyone, particularly county level but that just isn't how most people look at it. In an age of professional sports, hurling just isn't as attractive to a lot of people. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4154 - 19/01/2026 11:43:05 2651837 Link 0 |
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As you said the other day, was either about Clare or Tipp, they have people willing to put their shoulder to the wheel to invest in coaching youth and earn days like they had last July. The harder you work the luckier you get. And fairplay to yourself or anyone else here that puts time aside to go and do it. Would you or anyone else for that matter feel overall, we're just happy to settle for mediocrity /less in Wexford in terms of hurling and just 'sleepwalk' almost? I take absolutely no joy in asking that but we have to ask the tough questions sometimes…. OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 318 - 19/01/2026 12:57:56 2651874 Link 0 |
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I know this question is directed at Viking but I said it myself the other day. We're far too satisfied with mediocrity. I know loads of lads who genuinely wouldn't swap the summer of 96 for what Limerick have done. "What's rare is wonderful" they say. Well why can't we have both, and why do we accept it as rare. I remember traveling home from the 07 all Ireland semi final, for which we had a good bit of hope after beating tipp but we were well beaten by Kilkenny. Lads on the train were saying what a good performance it was. That to me says a lot about our ambition as a county. I was absolutely disgusted thinking of my uncles who were hurling for Wexford in the 50s/60s, or cousin from 96 wondering how we'd gotten to where we are. "Sure isn't it great to get the day out in Croke park?" No. It's embarrassing sometimes that a people like ours looking back through the centuries to be so spineless and soft. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4154 - 19/01/2026 13:56:44 2651889 Link 0 |
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A mindset set change in the county is what we really need and that's across the board We shouldn't be ashamed for aiming high (Although high expectations are nothing without high standards), goal should be to dominate and win multiple All-Irelands in a given era, some may scoff at that but if they're scoffing at that, we'd be better off without them Too much negativity about as well, don't think I've ever seen anyone be successful in sports without a positive mindset. Keep on telling lads they're no good and they'll start believing it Some think our under-age results are poor but I think Michael Duignan said it best when he said that from the outside, our underage teams were never going that badly but never shooting the lights out either Kildare's under-age results wouldn't be anywhere near ours which some on here consider to be very poor but they're telling lads how well they're going and that they're making progress, we've lads telling others that we're only going in one direction and that's down Won't win anything with a negative mindset ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 785 - 19/01/2026 14:22:59 2651894 Link 0 |
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I think the people putting time in down here are absolutely as dedicated and driven as any of the friends or acquaintances I have involved with Tipp or Clare county teams. The main issue is we have way less numbers wise at most clubs. We also seem to have less teachers in schools willing to put the time in. Ive given this alot of thought in recent years, and asked people who were around back then what they thought, and part of that is probably down to the erosion of the culture built up during the glory days of the 50s and 60s. Mick Jacob Senior told me that as the 70s went on into the 80s he noticed less and less lads out and about with the hurls, and in those days there was no such thing as screen time. I myself noticed the bounce we got after 96 likewise faded as we didnt back it up. Since the mid 90s Clare didnt go more than 15 years without winning an AI, and Tipp famously have won one every decade. I think this definitely helps with numbers of kids wanting to play, and then parents wanting to get into coaching. Our longterm historical hurling base, numbers, as in back to the early 20th Century, just wouldn't be what Corks, Galways, Kilkennys is. Tipps either. That probably helps counties like Cork stay competitive even during prolonged AI droughts. Tipp didnt win an AI between 1971 and 1989 either, but again had a strong enough base to come back. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18046 - 19/01/2026 14:32:01 2651899 Link 0 |