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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Yes, they should have said either Sat evening in Kilkenny on Sunday in Thurles but no way are Wexford playing on Saturday in Thurles when the Feile is on.
It was dealt with very weakly."
They should be pushing full stop to not always be dragged to Thurles every year imho.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1457 - 10/03/2025 09:28:36    2595665

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Replying To Viking66:  "You just named the 4 teams one of whom will almost certainly be joining us in 1b.
And the gate revenue is all pooled and divided equally, so we won't be down revenue.
Obviously as Doylerwex pointed out we don't want to stay there. Aside from the competitive point of view a prolonged stay in div2, as 1b should be called, might affect sponsorship revenue."
Not sure that's the case re. revenue from League matches.

To the best of my knowledge (but one of those times I stand to be corrected!) -

- A % of revenue from each League match goes direct to the home county. Think it's in the order of 30%. Obviously 30% of gate receipts from a maybe 7,000 attendance v Kilkenny is much more than 30% of receipts from a maybe 1,500 to 2,000 attendance v Kildare.
- A further portion goes to things like the Player Injury Fund, the general GAA insurance fund (subsidises the costs of what clubs have to pay for public liability etc.), the competition running costs, and more
- Then the rest of it is pooled and divided out between counties

So, a county with a large attendance at each home game would get more overall than a county with only a small attendance.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2748 - 10/03/2025 10:17:04    2595677

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Replying To tearintom:  "They should be pushing full stop to not always be dragged to Thurles every year imho."
Absolutely. Don't understand why they don't have more QFs in Nowlan Park.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 10/03/2025 10:26:34    2595680

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Well lads we still aren't relegated. We need Limerick to hammer Kilkenny by approx 20 points, and Clare to beat Tipp by no more than 1 point more than we beat Limerick.
Agree it's not that likely, but you never know.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 10/03/2025 10:28:33    2595682

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "The Féile thing could happen again this year.

Féile is fixed for Saturday June 21st. The All-Ireland Hurling quarter-finals are to be played that weekend. You'd have to hope that if we're in a quarter-final this year, it'll be fixed for the Sunday.

But another potential issue, given that our footballers are currently going well...the Tailteann Cup semi-finals are fixed for that weekend too."
At the present moment in time I'd be more worried about the football clash than the hurling but now is the time to be calling that out.

I'd argue it's not a great time for the feile anyway. It's the day after a junior cert exam.

Thurles is the default quarter final venue for years now but I'd argue it's an advantage to Munster teams that they don't really need.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3423 - 10/03/2025 10:36:04    2595688

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Not sure that's the case re. revenue from League matches.

To the best of my knowledge (but one of those times I stand to be corrected!) -

- A % of revenue from each League match goes direct to the home county. Think it's in the order of 30%. Obviously 30% of gate receipts from a maybe 7,000 attendance v Kilkenny is much more than 30% of receipts from a maybe 1,500 to 2,000 attendance v Kildare.
- A further portion goes to things like the Player Injury Fund, the general GAA insurance fund (subsidises the costs of what clubs have to pay for public liability etc.), the competition running costs, and more
- Then the rest of it is pooled and divided out between counties

So, a county with a large attendance at each home game would get more overall than a county with only a small attendance."
Apart from the Kilkenny game we don't really get a huge number at our League games especially as our League form has been poor enough since 2022. It could be that we actually get more lads to a home game against Antrim or Down or Kildare if we are on a run and needing to win those games to get promoted.
And 2 other sides out of the top 9 are likely to be in 1b next year anyway, which could possibly include Kilkenny, though we would likely be away to them, or more likely Clare, who we would likely be home to, if home and away is maintained.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 10/03/2025 11:40:40    2595712

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Id say the lads are going through a heavy training block at the moment with another 12 days before we play Limerick then we have 4 weeks before we play Antrim. Antrim look to be getting their act together now and will provide a test for us in the first round. I would imagine the lads will be off on a training weekend somewhere after the Limerick game. I dont know if the week abroad that happened during Davys time is going to be a regaular occurance now given championship now starts over Easter weekend

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 455 - 10/03/2025 12:20:50    2595737

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Id say the lads are going through a heavy training block at the moment with another 12 days before we play Limerick then we have 4 weeks before we play Antrim. Antrim look to be getting their act together now and will provide a test for us in the first round. I would imagine the lads will be off on a training weekend somewhere after the Limerick game. I dont know if the week abroad that happened during Davys time is going to be a regaular occurance now given championship now starts over Easter weekend"
I know Darragh Egan did a camp in Spain in 23 for all the good it did us

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3423 - 10/03/2025 13:16:10    2595747

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I know Darragh Egan did a camp in Spain in 23 for all the good it did us"
Keith brought the lads up to Laois last year

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 10/03/2025 13:49:05    2595761

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Per Irish Examiner being in Division 1B costs the county €100k.
Its not where you want to be if you are a serious hurling county.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1282 - 10/03/2025 13:51:59    2595763

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Per Irish Examiner being in Division 1B costs the county €100k.
Its not where you want to be if you are a serious hurling county."
Here's the piece I expect the Exiled man is talking about:
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41581975.html
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It's nowhere near as simple as "proceeds are divided equally".

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2748 - 10/03/2025 16:00:26    2595793

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Replying To Viking66:  "Well lads we still aren't relegated. We need Limerick to hammer Kilkenny by approx 20 points, and Clare to beat Tipp by no more than 1 point more than we beat Limerick.
Agree it's not that likely, but you never know."
It's us Clare and Kilkenny in the equation so we need Clare to lose again, then the combination of scores between us and Kilkenny needs to help us recover 20 points so if we beat Limerick by a point and Kilkenny lose to Limerick by 20 we stay up. No bother to us..............

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3423 - 10/03/2025 16:04:23    2595794

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Replying To Viking66:  "Keith brought the lads up to Laois last year"
How much did that flight cost, for all the good it did them?

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2144 - 10/03/2025 16:40:05    2595802

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "How much did that flight cost, for all the good it did them?"
I don't think us flying to Portugal would've improved Gordon's eyesight in Nowlan Park. Or got the lads playing any better in the last quarter in Belfast, or concentrating any better in injury time against Dublin. Those are 3 of the reasons we didn't make the Leinster Final last year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 10/03/2025 20:06:32    2595850

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "It's us Clare and Kilkenny in the equation so we need Clare to lose again, then the combination of scores between us and Kilkenny needs to help us recover 20 points so if we beat Limerick by a point and Kilkenny lose to Limerick by 20 we stay up. No bother to us.............."
Clare have to win or we don't stay up. It's head to head if 2 teams are tied.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 10/03/2025 20:07:27    2595852

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Replying To Viking66:  "Clare have to win or we don't stay up. It's head to head if 2 teams are tied."
According to the independent there's no head to head in the league. It's scoring difference, then most goals scored etc.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3423 - 10/03/2025 23:04:41    2595878

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "I was reading the thread and article in the Irish Independent about the Antrim v Armagh game.
I know its long gone but Wexford should have flat out refused to play that All-Ireland Quarter Final last year.
Give a walk-over if the GAA wanted them to. Public sentiment would have meant that would have been an own-goal for them.
It might have fired the support, and the team up, if we had said no way are we playing that game while the Feile is on in Wexford, and come up with an answer that suits us as a county.
Wexford are much too soft and easily pushed around and want to be loved and be everyone's 2nd team. Screw that, Limerick would have been that once and look where it got them. I am far removed but might not be next year but it is up to our County Board to start standing up for ourselves. Why are we always getting shafted by the powers in the GAA? Because we never stick up for ourselves.
Its time for that to change."
Agreed on the comment on "everyone's second team". If we were a genuine threat we wouldn't be. Only one way to address it though.

Our players in Thurles last year certainly weren't fired up, maybe ROC to a degree until he lost his cool, but Clare walked through us at will early on and hardly broke sweat in second half. What was the excuse for such a poor Wexford crowd showing up in Thurles or Cork for other QF games v Clare, two narrow defeats? Couldn't have been the Feile then.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 369 - 10/03/2025 23:38:11    2595879

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "According to the independent there's no head to head in the league. It's scoring difference, then most goals scored etc."
I thought I seen somewhere else it was head to head

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 455 - 11/03/2025 09:54:41    2595898

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Replying To Timbertony:  "Agreed on the comment on "everyone's second team". If we were a genuine threat we wouldn't be. Only one way to address it though.

Our players in Thurles last year certainly weren't fired up, maybe ROC to a degree until he lost his cool, but Clare walked through us at will early on and hardly broke sweat in second half. What was the excuse for such a poor Wexford crowd showing up in Thurles or Cork for other QF games v Clare, two narrow defeats? Couldn't have been the Feile then."
Agreed on wexford away crowds, take out the big round robin matches v Kilkenny and Wexford support on the road is very poor.

I remember we had Clare on the ropes in a Q-final but the Clare crowd roared them over the line.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 873 - 11/03/2025 16:07:00    2595960

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "According to the independent there's no head to head in the league. It's scoring difference, then most goals scored etc."
Independent has it wrong, then. This is taken directly from the League Regulations:

When Teams finish with equal points for Qualification for the Concluding Stages, or for Promotion or Relegation, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified:
(i) Where two Teams only are involved - the outcome of the meeting of the two Teams in the previous game in the Competition;
(ii) Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For);
(iii) Highest Total Score For;
(iv) Highest Total Goals For;
(v) A Play-Off

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2748 - 11/03/2025 21:51:16    2596014

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