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It is a fact that Meath footballers are operating at a higher level than the hurlers and with that comes a bigger budget at every level. Throwing money at hurling doesn't fix it. The reality is the hurlers are not there to compete. Aim should be Joe Mac and competing there. Anything above that is a generational shift. For the county to stabilise at Joe Mac, building a squad is essential and a couple of years at Christy level will benefit a young team. Down are an example of this. Meath wiped them in a final in 2019 but they are now a far better unit than Meath. If management go down the route of getting the old cohort back to win another Christy medal we may as well elect to not go up to Joe Mac. Average age of squad needed is 24-26. Loads of good young talent in Kildalkey, Na Fianna, Trim, Ratoath and Kilmessan. off_the_wall (Roscommon) - Posts: 72 - 27/11/2024 16:54:29 2581499 Link 0 |
the likes of galway and armagh were in div 3 since meath were, in football it dosent take much to turn things quickly, i think meath will get back in near future. anyway meath hurling needs a lot more hurling teams being genuinely competitive against each other in chamionship, get back the clubs that are big into hurling like killyon, rathmolyon, boardmill, athboy they need all these along with new teams like ratoath and na fianna the only problem with ratoath, na fianna and omahonys is when fotball is going well its hard for hurling to go well too, the old traditional clubs is whats needed, take the senior chamionship down to 8 teams as well and move through the ranks , all championships 8 teams. 2 groups of 4 , 3 proper chamionship games 2 into semi finals, bottom in each group relegation play off. push out playing league and cups to early march to june when ground conditions get better and longer daylight. dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 790 - 27/11/2024 21:39:41 2581524 Link 0 |
No one is talking about throwing money at them, as the footballers have proved this does not work. We should be a Joe Mc team and capable of holding our own at that level like Westmeath, Carlow and Kerry. Instead we are way below that standard and even with all players available i am not sure we would win the Christy Ring. Your rite though we do need to start from scratch. There are 3-4 older players on the team that have served us well in the past but are just holding back younger players now. Try all the younger players from 20-25 that are close to the standard and that are willing to commit, if they don't work out then so be it. i hope the new management brings new faces and ideas. I don't think the hurling people of Meath are asking for the county board to throw millions at them or are expecting to be in the top tier of hurling but would like some help in improving the standard and not just the odd token gesture to keep everyone happy. As iv said before the big towns like Navan, Athboy, Kells and Ashbourne are letting the hurlers and footballers of the county down. I would say between all of them they don't provide 5players to both panels. The smaller traditional clubs like Boardsmill, Rathmolyn, Longwood and Killyon try their best but just simply don't have the numbers. Kildalkey and Kiltale will go down the same road in the not too distant future and then where will we be.. Tobefair80 (Meath) - Posts: 74 - 28/11/2024 09:06:15 2581547 Link 0 |
You haven't a clue , Navan , Athboy , Kells , Ashbourne never fail to put out hurling teams .... football just takes priority in 3 of them you can't blame them for that , Meath Hurling is like Grass Hockey dont be giving it large about town teams
Head4TheBlackSpot (Meath) - Posts: 27 - 28/11/2024 09:41:53 2581552 Link 0 |
How many footballers from Navan, Athboy, Kells and Ashbourne are there currently on the Meath football panel?
Tobefair80 (Meath) - Posts: 74 - 28/11/2024 15:17:37 2581612 Link 0 |
where we will be is probably Trim-Kilmessan domination again with maybe Kildalkey or one other club keeping them honest an odd year.
dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 790 - 28/11/2024 21:06:17 2581663 Link 0 |
I'm open to correction, but I don't think there has ever been a particularly strong county panel representation from 3 of the clubs/towns you mentioned. The exception being Navan of course. As I say, if I'm wrong in this regard, it's not with the intention of causing offence. In some regards, Meath is quite unique in that there has always been a great geographical spread on county panels, with players representing all areas of the county. I don't think it's helpful to single out certain towns or clubs as somehow being deficient when it comes to supplying players to county panels. Again, I'm certainly open to correction, but I think it would be difficult to find any clubs in the county who's stated aim is to develop players for the Meath panels. Yes, the majority of clubs want to ensure they develop players so they maximise their potential, but that is a different aim to supplying county players. Given where we are at as a collective, it's obvious that coaching standards and governance needs to be dramatically improved. That responsibility falls to all clubs, regardless of location. oceanofnoise (Meath) - Posts: 52 - 29/11/2024 16:44:04 2581704 Link 0 |
I see in the Chronicle that a lot of people's prayers have been answered. In 2026 the SHC and SHC B will be 2 separate competitions. CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1668 - 30/11/2024 14:53:35 2581772 Link 0 |
well its an absolute sham if 4 teams get through to a semi final out of 6, just do like westmeath, top team straight to final and 2 v 3 in one semi final, 5v 6 in relagation play off and side thats 4th is safe. you have to reward the team that might win 5 out of 5 group games over a team that might win 2 and lose three and end up in 4th right at the same stage as the team that won all their games. its gaining nothing only more shadow boxing games in opening rounds if its not 3 out of 6 going through dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 790 - 02/12/2024 15:22:49 2582062 Link 0 |
Athboy certainly won't be in the mix. Hard to see past Ratoath, Trim and Kildalkey. They continue to bring through good numbers to Adult Hurling. Talking of Kilmessan dominating the future is far to premature.
CrookedSticks (Fermanagh) - Posts: 7 - 02/12/2024 21:49:53 2582124 Link 0 |
Kilmessan ? Current team has some promise at best but bar is very low down there in last 10 years. I would expect ratoath to stick around for next few years , young team still so not sure where you see the fall off? hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 425 - 02/12/2024 22:37:37 2582131 Link 0 |
A few tough trips in the NHL and a lot of travelling bountyboy22 (USA) - Posts: 38 - 06/12/2024 11:59:31 2582617 Link 1 |
No one will Ike to hear this but the easiest answer to improving meath club football and hurling would be to run our championships with Westmeath. goosey (Meath) - Posts: 63 - 07/12/2024 01:59:16 2582690 Link 1 |
This is a hurling/football discussion. There are plenty of online angling forums which would be a more appropriate place for yourself and your little fishing rod. oceanofnoise (Meath) - Posts: 52 - 07/12/2024 17:29:28 2582725 Link 0 |
Well it's most appropriate for hurling,both counties have a core of 3-5 strong senior club teams.Westmeath hurling is largely in the east of the county. It just seems sensible not sure why anyone would be so immediately sensitive to the idea.
goosey (Meath) - Posts: 63 - 08/12/2024 05:47:01 2582748 Link 0 |
your talking about reuniting the county of Meath then? thats fantasy stuff is it not? not to say that its probably the only county that realistically could be done as it is the diocese has no border in it but takes in a good bit of offaly too, navan, mullingar and tullamore are all in diocese of meath. i dont know why meath was divided anyway but some of Elizabeth I civil servants did it i think dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 790 - 09/12/2024 23:02:12 2582958 Link 0 |
Great win for Kilmessan u21s. 2 years ina row now , you could only presume they will be challenging for a senior championship in the next couple of years !! Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 84 - 16/12/2024 12:30:24 2583731 Link 0 |
yeah they could just happen to come along at a time where there is a gap in the market, i think kiltale are probabaly going to struggle to win another championship in next few years, ratoath might win one or two more , kildalkey probabaly get hard to win another one without a lot of new players coming in, Trim and Kilmessan well placed to hoover up a few in next 10 years dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 790 - 16/12/2024 12:55:28 2583733 Link 0 |
It takes every thing to go in your favour to win a Jubilee. The draw! Where you play your games. How many injuries you pick up in the season. The Referee. The weather. ( All outside most clubs control). The clubs can mitigate said variables by a number of proactive interventions; protecting players, (not overusing in league etc). Ensure quality support from physios etc. Top class training and broad experience from coaches./ other professionals. Morale has to be managed. Hunger to win needs to be instilled. Bringing new players from juvenile setup is a must and has to be managed. You need a big bit of luck as well. Any team who has won the Jubilee will tell you that. CrookedSticks (Fermanagh) - Posts: 7 - 18/12/2024 13:04:29 2583984 Link 0 |