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Replying To bloodandbandage:  "I agree cityman, the Munster hurling championship in it's current guise is absolute riveting stuff. The tight games over the last few years are testament to that, and even though Cork are probably going out next week, I still wouldn't change it.
For Galway and KK in Leinster, there is no jeopardy, and therefore it's shadow boxing until the Leinster final. The rest of the teams in Leinster are just not at the races, and recent results bolster that."
Leinster has been good competitive stuff bar the one game Kilkenny v Antrim, when Antrim had a few lads starting their 1st game of the year, and rested a few others. Other than that there's been plenty of last minute drama!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13905 - 01/05/2024 09:33:27    2542152

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Replying To bloodandbandage:  "I agree cityman, the Munster hurling championship in it's current guise is absolute riveting stuff. The tight games over the last few years are testament to that, and even though Cork are probably going out next week, I still wouldn't change it.
For Galway and KK in Leinster, there is no jeopardy, and therefore it's shadow boxing until the Leinster final. The rest of the teams in Leinster are just not at the races, and recent results bolster that."
The Tipp Limerick wasn't riveting, and I haven't had the chance to watch it yet.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3876 - 01/05/2024 11:30:57    2542192

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "The Tipp Limerick wasn't riveting, and I haven't had the chance to watch it yet."
I watched it, I wouldn't recommend you bother, unless you're in a prison cell somewhere looking to kill time, and even then you'd be well advised to think twice

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 905 - 01/05/2024 13:29:56    2542249

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "I watched it, I wouldn't recommend you bother, unless you're in a prison cell somewhere looking to kill time, and even then you'd be well advised to think twice"
ive never heard of a pope behind bars before....

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1130 - 01/05/2024 14:19:33    2542260

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "The Tipp Limerick wasn't riveting, and I haven't had the chance to watch it yet."
It was a poor game and not worth watching back as a neutral.
Tipp gave up very easily.
I was surprised at them to be honest.
After Caseys injurys the life drained out of it completely..

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1103 - 01/05/2024 14:24:28    2542261

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "The Tipp Limerick wasn't riveting, and I haven't had the chance to watch it yet."
I agree it definitely wasn't riveting stuff, I'll give you the summary version so you don't have to watch it.

First 25 minutes was tit for tat..... level scores, an awful lot of broken play, marginally mistimed tackle's etc from both sides. Not a dirty stoke, some frees.

25 to 35 mins. Limerick start to play a little aided by the increasing breeze. Half time Limerick up by 5 points.

Second half first 10 mins tit for tat Tipperary get two scores on the bounce bring it back to 4 points. Aaron Gillane Goal kills the Tipperary revival, brings Limerick back to 7 points ahead and Tipperary heads drop and they pretty much throw the towel in.

Peter Casey gets terrible injury while scoring a goal .. a total freak accident... everyone in the crowd knows its a bad one. sucks the life out of both sets of players and crowd for the rest of the game.

The end

LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 94 - 01/05/2024 14:47:34    2542268

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "ive never heard of a pope behind bars before...."
Not recently, but Popes have often been Prisoners in the past.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4467 - 01/05/2024 16:29:57    2542298

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "The Tipp Limerick wasn't riveting, and I haven't had the chance to watch it yet."
YOU ARE RIGHT YOUR HOLINESS. BUT Limerick's previous eight games in Munster have all been close encounters

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4467 - 01/05/2024 16:33:32    2542299

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "They would.

Talking about Galway's record in the 60s, and insinuating that it has relevance to the current side doesn't stack up. Why did mention the record v Waterford as opposed to the record v Tipp? Both Tipp and Waterford play in munster don't they? Tipp were 'big3' last time i checked!! Galway played a lot of those matches v munster teams at munster venues with munster referees. I attended a Galway Waterford knockout game in 2009, where Galway's chance of winning was severely skewed in a negative direction, due to the munster referee on duty that day.

Limerick fans, post 2018, don't feel foolish anyone making daft observations. You meet them on trains coming out of Croker these years, and a lot of them are like green clad 'Doctor Phils', positively eager to engage beaten down fans on the entrails of their 'lack of success' relative to Limerick's recently acquired lofty perch."
With respect Your HOLINESS we never had a home game even in our very worst days when only 7 or 8 Thousand turned up.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4467 - 01/05/2024 16:38:05    2542301

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "With respect Your HOLINESS we never had a home game even in our very worst days when only 7 or 8 Thousand turned up."
Ye didn't have a Leinster man coming to collect the gate either.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3876 - 01/05/2024 18:52:49    2542322

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "They would.

Talking about Galway's record in the 60s, and insinuating that it has relevance to the current side doesn't stack up. Why did mention the record v Waterford as opposed to the record v Tipp? Both Tipp and Waterford play in munster don't they? Tipp were 'big3' last time i checked!! Galway played a lot of those matches v munster teams at munster venues with munster referees. I attended a Galway Waterford knockout game in 2009, where Galway's chance of winning was severely skewed in a negative direction, due to the munster referee on duty that day.

Limerick fans, post 2018, don't feel foolish anyone making daft observations. You meet them on trains coming out of Croker these years, and a lot of them are like green clad 'Doctor Phils', positively eager to engage beaten down fans on the entrails of their 'lack of success' relative to Limerick's recently acquired lofty perch."
'Recently ACQUIRED lofty perch'. MY FRIEND WE HAVE BEEM CROWING OFF LOFTY PERCHES LONG BEFORE 2018, WINNING All Irelands in Eight different decades and three different centuries.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4467 - 01/05/2024 20:10:13    2542340

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "I watched it, I wouldn't recommend you bother, unless you're in a prison cell somewhere looking to kill time, and even then you'd be well advised to think twice"
Watched it again and again. You can never get enough of hammering Tipperary, unless they're Cork or Kilkenny of course!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2098 - 01/05/2024 20:30:55    2542341

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I don't know why people think you are anti-Leinster hurling or their many great teams when pointing out that it is no way near as competitive to win as the Munster championships. Over the years all Kilkenny had to do was prepare for a Leinster final and on some great occasions Wexford put up to them. Then that got better when provincial finalist moved on to the All-Ireland series and so on to the qualifiers now to where we are today. Galway has made it more competitive but still not as competitive as winning Munster. It just the way it is and not looking down on any team or province. It is called reality. If Dublin,Wexford and Offaly etc. got to a standard of the fourth and fifth team in Munster then it would be a whole different story.
I don't think it was love of Galway that Leinster invited them in either.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2870 - 01/05/2024 23:33:19    2542364

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Ye didn't have a Leinster man coming to collect the gate either."
Where would a Connaught man collect it?

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2098 - 02/05/2024 01:37:05    2542376

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Replying To Canuck:  "I don't know why people think you are anti-Leinster hurling or their many great teams when pointing out that it is no way near as competitive to win as the Munster championships. Over the years all Kilkenny had to do was prepare for a Leinster final and on some great occasions Wexford put up to them. Then that got better when provincial finalist moved on to the All-Ireland series and so on to the qualifiers now to where we are today. Galway has made it more competitive but still not as competitive as winning Munster. It just the way it is and not looking down on any team or province. It is called reality. If Dublin,Wexford and Offaly etc. got to a standard of the fourth and fifth team in Munster then it would be a whole different story.
I don't think it was love of Galway that Leinster invited them in either."
Canuck yes the Munster Round Robin has got more competitive the last 2 years. But before that it wasn't. The 2022 Waterford and Tipp teams that finished the round robin would've struggled to beat Antrim, then in the Joe Mac, that year. Even Cork didn't put them away til the closing 10 minutes, and they were far better than Tipp and Waterford during that round robin. Clare rested half their team including their best players in the final round robin game and still thrashed a sorry Waterford selection. They struggled to beat an injury ravaged Wexford in the subsequent AIQF. And Tipp were even worse.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13905 - 02/05/2024 10:49:27    2542417

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Replying To Viking66:  "Canuck yes the Munster Round Robin has got more competitive the last 2 years. But before that it wasn't. The 2022 Waterford and Tipp teams that finished the round robin would've struggled to beat Antrim, then in the Joe Mac, that year. Even Cork didn't put them away til the closing 10 minutes, and they were far better than Tipp and Waterford during that round robin. Clare rested half their team including their best players in the final round robin game and still thrashed a sorry Waterford selection. They struggled to beat an injury ravaged Wexford in the subsequent AIQF. And Tipp were even worse."
CLARE STILL HELD Limerick to level scores twice in normal time in two games and Waterford ran them to 3 points on their home patch, all in 22.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4467 - 02/05/2024 12:38:43    2542447

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "CLARE STILL HELD Limerick to level scores twice in normal time in two games and Waterford ran them to 3 points on their home patch, all in 22."
Noone is debating Clares credentials. They have reached the AISF the last 2 years. Canuck reckoned the worst teams in Munster would beat the 3rd place team in Leinster if they came out. I don't believe that to be true in 22.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13905 - 02/05/2024 14:23:23    2542472

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Replying To Viking66:  "Noone is debating Clares credentials. They have reached the AISF the last 2 years. Canuck reckoned the worst teams in Munster would beat the 3rd place team in Leinster if they came out. I don't believe that to be true in 22."
From what Province have every team been that knocked Kilkenny out of every Championship since 2015 and BTW Waterford did it twice.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4467 - 03/05/2024 21:06:00    2542720

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "'Recently ACQUIRED lofty perch'. MY FRIEND WE HAVE BEEM CROWING OFF LOFTY PERCHES LONG BEFORE 2018, WINNING All Irelands in Eight different decades and three different centuries."
For anyone aged under 60, Limerick were also rans as a hurling power throughout their lifetimes, until the 2018-20?? run. For under60s, it feels like a recently acquired lofty perch. You might be an older man......tourman even!!

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3876 - 03/05/2024 22:04:02    2542724

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "CLARE STILL HELD Limerick to level scores twice in normal time in two games and Waterford ran them to 3 points on their home patch, all in 22."
You're talking up Munster teams for round robin results, while simultaneously knocking Leinster teams for failing to ko KK from the championship since 2015.

What Munster teams have knocked Limerick out of the championship since 2018? NONE of them.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3876 - 03/05/2024 22:13:33    2542727

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